IFA 2025

[henene4]

Have not had the motivation or luck to look for much in advance, so just relied on press releases so far.
Official start is Friday, with most press events scheduled for tomorrow.


Miele has quietly changed their DW lineup. Even the cheapest model is now class A efficiency with upper end models going as low as A-10%.
Further, they will launch extra wide built in fridge freezers - which with all likelihood come from BSH.
They'll show off a new cooktop which moves a lot of hardware to the pots and pans with sensors and such. Sounds honestly stupid to me.
But, on the other hand, they'll show off a drawer style steamer. Instead of having a full size steam oven, you get just steaming in the space of a warming drawer. Sounds pretty great and useful actually.


LG will launch a new range of very high efficiency cooling appliances - currently as low as A-20%, with A-40% to follow next year. Even the typically less efficient french door models will come in A now.
They'll futther launch new washers and dryers as well as new heat pump washer dryer combo. The current pictures aren't particularly well labelled - but the combo *might* no longer be a Centum style machine, eliminating many issue these combos had before with items makeing their way into the sump.


ELux will launch a completely overhauled DW platform with noise ratings as low as 35dB in silence mode, or 37dB in regular mode. They claim improved load sensing and thus reduced usage overall with the new Eco cycle going as low as 8,4l and/or A-10%.
Honestly needed - their DWs have been pretty terrible in many regards in the past few years, even scoring pretty low in StiWa here in Germany.

 

[phillymatt53]

Have not had the motivation or luck to look for much in advance, so just relied on press releases so far.
Official start is Friday, with most press events scheduled for tomorrow.


Miele has quietly changed their DW lineup. Even the cheapest model is now class A efficiency with upper end models going as low as A-10%.
Further, they will launch extra wide built in fridge freezers - which with all likelihood come from BSH.
They'll show off a new cooktop which moves a lot of hardware to the pots and pans with sensors and such. Sounds honestly stupid to me.
But, on the other hand, they'll show off a drawer style steamer. Instead of having a full size steam oven, you get just steaming in the space of a warming drawer. Sounds pretty great and useful actually.


LG will launch a new range of very high efficiency cooling appliances - currently as low as A-20%, with A-40% to follow next year. Even the typically less efficient french door models will come in A now.
They'll futther launch new washers and dryers as well as new heat pump washer dryer combo. The current pictures aren't particularly well labelled - but the combo *might* no longer be a Centum style machine, eliminating many issue these combos had before with items makeing their way into the sump.


ELux will launch a completely overhauled DW platform with noise ratings as low as 35dB in silence mode, or 37dB in regular mode. They claim improved load sensing and thus reduced usage overall with the new Eco cycle going as low as 8,4l and/or A-10%.
Honestly needed - their DWs have been pretty terrible in many regards in the past few years, even scoring pretty low in StiWa here in Germany.

With all the global greed and corruption going on, I refuse to be convinced as to "claims" on products.
Just because "they say" it, doesn't mean it's true.
Call me a skeptic, I don't care.

 

[logixx]

The AEG/Electrolux dishwashers sound like they might reuse rinse water for the next pre-wash. The press release kinda gave me that impression.

The BSH dryers rely on, as you predicted, higher airflow to bump the energy efficiency to A. But now that viewing window has gotten as small as the one in Gorenje dryers. I was surprised to see robo vacs (again) from Bosch... but Ecovacs largely makes them for Bosch, it seems. I wonder who makes the Bosch air fryers?

Haven't looked into LG or Samsung yet.

Miele doesn't seem to have a whole lot to show this year. Steamer drawer (which coincidentally was also launched from BSH) and the new "smart" cookware. Yeah, I don't know if I need sensors and a control panel on my cookware...

I would assume Haier showcases their large combo?

 

[henene4]

Those new BSH dryers are kinda interesting.
They even removed the acess panels on the front completely...
And they FINALLY added speed control to their inverter motors on dryers. They had fixes speed inverters for a decade for really no apparent reason.
I do think - even though the viewing window is kinda small now - that solution is going to be better than Eluxs in terms of items getting stuck in the filter area.

AEG had water reusage for their DWs for the longest I'd guess. And going from 11l to 8,4l sounds like just about what those water pockets often hold.
So you might be right...


It's really interesting though that BSHs steamer drawer looks like it's completely independently designed - the 'layout' looks completely different from Mieles offering ...