The future worryingly of elux products......

[paulc]

Darren

I looked at the flexidose machine today in Currys, the dispenser does not have a pre-wash compartment although it has a pre-wash programme.

 

[aegokocarat]

@paulc

i wonderd the same thing and new zanussi's have started to grow on me again!

 

[fl1012]

Filters, etc.......

Hmmm. I can see that new filter system being ignored by a few, which will no doubt lead to people thinking the machine has broke when it stops draining because of a blocked filter. People already seem to forget to empty the filters on many other makes of machine where the filter is hidden behind a plinth (like on Indesit, Hoover etc). Even when the filter is more obvious like on Beko & Zanussi, some people still don't work it out, so this concealed affair isn't gonna hit the mark i feel.

As for the machine without any filter, this is bizzare. Zanussi have always had filters for as long as i can remember. This is a step in the wrong direction i think.

With regard to the Prewash section in the detergent drawer, i was lead to believe from a Zanussi video i saw that there is an interchangeable section that you can alter depending on whether you use liquid or powder. I'd imagine you have to do something with this if youre using the prewash program, though without seeing the machine in the metal, im not quite sure what the procedure would be. Hearing Darren's findings on the filter, maybe theyve decided people don't want anywhere to put prewash detergent ;-)

Liam

 

[ronhic]

Are we sure 'filter'....

is the right term?

 

I only ask, because having had cause to open and remove it once, it is certainly not normally capable of filtering anything 'fine', such as lint...that is, unless you wash something that almost falls apart....

 

I would have thought that 'button trap' would have been a more appropriate turn of phrase for filters in front load machines - indeed, no Australian made Hoovers ever had one....

 

[fl1012]

Well, in the UK we call them filters but youre right, as the ones ive seen would only really stop buttons, coins & large pieces of fluff getting to the pump. On our newer Zanussi it looks a very curious design that may even struggle to catch buttons. See link.

http://www.espares.co.uk/part/washi.../567049/561340/washing-machine-filter-bo.html

 

[haxisfan]

@ronhic

You're right... button trap or coin trap is a more appropriate term to describe this kind of contrivance in modern machines... in fact it doesn't ever need cleaning... hence the term 'self cleaning'!

I used to clean it in the Hoover (UK/EU) twice a year but now I've got to the point that I don't bother for a whole year or longer as it never gets dirty.

I've included a link below where I perform some biannual maintenance with the washer... I take the filter out at time 9:00 in the clip.

 

[newwave1]

Hmm we occasionally call the filter a coin trap..generally in the repair trade they do.

Liam: The zanussi without the filter, zanussi state on the sticker which I left on the machine that the pump is a self cleaning type but to check it occasionally for objects. Its not like old filters the the perforated plastic etc.

Even my oldschool zanussi never has much need to be cleaned! But I dislike the idea of not having the option which would result in an unnecessary call out which was always the case with hoover and hotpoint machines.

The flexidose model has literally a mainwash and a fabric softener compartment thats it! I did not see anything in the drum which would allow the use of prewash detergent. I find this a strange model in that if you use P&G you'd have to dose the gels in the drum. unless u use persil, surf or own brand liquids then you could dose via the drawer!

I dislike the fact they can't even put progress indicators on the BOL models like mine. It drives me insane. I have just bought a new machine from another brand because the lack of extra rinse, progress indicators and time remaining and lack of 30degree temp drive me insane!

Darren

 

[nrones]

I saw Zanussi Flex dose

And I really don't understand it!

Can somebody tell me what is that small detergent draw, like on Candy Aquamatics for? and how is it flexible?

Dex

 

[fl1012]

Filter/Coin Trap/Whatever....

These newer ones like that fitted to my Parents 2007 Zanussi Essential look self-cleaning (unlike the older mesh ones) but we have had some build-up in ours after a couple of months, especially when washing new towels & such like.

Also it was only a few weeks ago that someone mentioned a Hoover that was to be scrapped as it wouldn't drain & upon investigation the filter was found to be blocked, so i don't think people should totally trust the 'self cleaning' label. If it was THAT self cleaning then there wouldn't be an inspection cover!

Darren - what you gone & bought now?! I take it Zanussi havn't responded to your email/letter?

I thought the new FlexiDose machines still didn't have progress indicators, but DO have an LED display to display Time Remaining. They also have an Extra Rinse button & 30c setting on the variable temp control.

Liam

 

[haxisfan]

@fl1012

Hi Liam... I wasn't taking for granted the self cleaning factor of these newer filters (well, newer to an extent... my sister 18 year old washer has the exact same component as my 6.5 year old 'modern' washer... we can practically swap them). I was just trying to say that they really are low maintenance compared to the older ones: my parents old mid 70's model required a filter clean at least once a month. I attached a link below... if you wish to see it forward the video to 5.00 minutes.

As for a blocked filter, it's not always the case that the pump is blocked because of build-ups, the motor that drives the pump might occasionally be the culprit. I still believe that all washers should have a user accessible filter regardless.