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This for Darren's benefit.

This arrived in 1993, and passed onto a friend in 2000.

The machine arrived on my birthday in 1993, and from day one had niggly problems (the door wouldn't release properly).

The machine was supposed to ramp into a "spin-burst" during washing (every 6th cycle of clockwise motion, according to the Service Data Book: sometimes it did, sometimes it didn't. I noticed that if the machine took in stone-cold water only, it would do the spin-bursts. If the water was anywhere near lukewarm, it omitted them.

The Hoover engineer was summoned to fix the door release (belt-pecker needed adjusting) and I mentioned about the erratic spin-bursts. He thought that the motor control was a little rough, so he ordered a new pcb.

Anyway, a week later he came back to fit it, and in the process scratched the front panel! So he had to come back again. Needless to say, the spin-bursts were still touch'n'go.

The machine also had a habit of going into the "abort sequence", usually half-way through the wash phase itself. This would entail pumping out, and then sitting pretty with all led's flashing in unison! This being an early model, it had no fault locating. Towards the end, after it did this four times the same day, my mother eventually "lost the rag" with this machine, and bought a cheap Hoover (Candy based) model.

Another time, about 1995, the New Wave was washing at breakfast-time. Suddenly there were two loud bangs in succession, and the power went off.

It turned out that there was a nick in the doorseal and water had sprayed down onto the heater terminals during the spin-bursts, blowing it and the plug fuse, and tripping the circuit breaker. This was reason for the subsequent Product Recall; to fit a plastic guard to avoid this scenario. According to the engineer, there had been a fire in another machine!

This machine also had a flawed design in the door-interlock peg. The peg on the door was polypropylene (moulded as part of the door-inner). Through time, the interlock's microswitch acctuator (sharp, pointy "blade"), would scrape and gouge a channel on the peg, each time the door was opened and closed. Eventually, the machine would refuse to start, as the door would appear to be "not closed".

Subsequent "Quattro" machines had a metal alloy peg to alleviate this problem.

A further problem with the New Wave range, was the minimal drum-tub gap. This was to reduce water consumption to 68 litres for a cottons load. Unfortunately, this had a propensity to cause "suds-lock" of too much detergent was used. Even using a normal amount of detergent (normal for the previous Hoover Ecologic 1200) caused the same effect. The detergents we used at that time were Ariel Ultra, then Ariel Future.

The rinsing in the New Wave was quite impressive. The machine had a rinsing procedure called "Dynamic Spin-Rinsing".

Previous Hoover machines would rinse, drain, then do a low level spin, then go onto the next rinse.

The New Wave drained its rinse water, then proceeded to:

distribute, ramp into 500 (or 600rpm) for 10 seconds. Stop;
distribute, ramp into 800rpm for 10 seconds. Stop;
distribute, ramp into 1000rpm for 15 seconds. Stop;
distribute, ramp into 1300rpm for 20 second period. Cut the motor power, and while the drum was decelerating, activate the water valve to spray the laundry with the front-fill water inlet.

Of course, the machine behaved erratically; sometimes it did this sequence, other times it skipped the 1000 and 1300 spins. Probably out of balance, or suds-lock.

Eventually, the final spin was wavering all over the place, but operated okay on the minimum iron programme, so the machine got passed onto a friend who was still using it up until last year.

Darren had a New Wave washer-drier? Apparently after the final spin on the wash cycle, the washer-drier would go through a "deplastering sequence" to attempt to remove the laundry from the circumference of the drum. This entailed tumbling, interspersed with 500rpm spins.
 
Sounds about right for the rubbish Candy turn out and the New Waves I think were Candys quick and cheap way of converting Hoover machines to their own, as quickly as they could whilst using up stocks of Hoover Parts.
Im guessing that the New Wave models were the first re design steps to the demise of the decent Hoovers and it shows for the blatant styling they have that replicate Candy's.

Im surprised that many of the faults you have mentioned carried over to the next range as they were present on my Mums Quattro AA230.

Mums Quattro never once did the "double drum spreed rotation" is it should have done according to the brochure and the jet system would only bother coming on for small periods in the wash. However this wasnt really an issue as my Mum didnt really know about what the machine was supposed to do.

Also the door took a fair old shove to shut it to get the machine working and subsequently would be hard to open after the wash cycle had finished.

We had to press the door release button with one hand and lift the door up with the other to get it over the latch.
I remember my parents went on holiday and in the first day of them being away when pushing the door up I put my hand thru the protective door cover and it shattered into a mess.

Luckily the local repair centre ordered one in for me and I was able to fit it. Low and behold not long after my parents came back, Mum also put her hand thru it and it wasnt replaced.

Nick
 
Actually, Nick, the New Waves were Hoover's own design and were being developed whilst Hoover was still owned by Maytag - the Hoover Candy's didn't appear until the Hoover Quattro's/Performa's in the late 90s. The New Wave's were in effect an evolution of the Ecologic design.

Jon
 
Nick, Candy had NOTHING to do with the Newwave models. Candy aqquired Hoover in 1995 but didnt produce anything until the quattros. They were the first collaboration between hoover and candy.

Strange that your mums machine had those problems Rolls_rapide. I was well pleased with mine. When i get my chance i will buy another. I know 3 people who've had them from new washing for four people without fault.

When i bought mine it needed a new dryer element which i fitted, i changed the brushes through choice but the major fault was the module it wouldn't do 1300. I was more than happy with mine.

It was more advanced than any Hotpoint, Zanussi or Electrolux at the time and the most economcial without comrpromising performance. The fact that it used centrifugal force to maximise performance with low consumption was extremely advanced at the time and still is if you ask me.

They were the only washing machine to be awarded the eco label. Which was meant to debut with the first range but it was still being processed and was later added to the plus 5 models.

I got spin washing on all the cottons and synthetic progs which was highly effective and entertaining. I stil consider the new wave to be one of my favourite models of all time.

Darren
 
It's a Hoover through n through

What has the New Wave got to do with Candy? The New wave was thought out in 1989 and launched in 1993 , Hoovers own design well before Candy become the owners in 1995.Still a proper Hoover.

Steve
 
quote

"I think were Candys quick and cheap way of converting"

"Im guessing that the New Wave models were the first re design steps"

its how it appeared to me.

Nick
 
they were redesigned, but into more eco friendly machines!
Nothing to do with build quality really! Yes they did get a bit plasticky but not as much as hotpoints or even zanussis were at the time.

Then the crappy candy era came along. Which you may blame until the cows come home if you so wish!

Darren
 
Rolls_Rapide....A real shame you had so many little problems with your New Wave. My mum bought the plus 5 1400 in 95/6 i think and was very impressed with it so when I moved out a few months later I bought the New Wave plus 5 1500 model. My mums is still going strong 11/12 years later with no repairs needed so far. Mine was still going strong when I put it into storage in 2002 to move to Sydney. It was dropped down a flight of stairs by removals last year when i took it out of storage and sadly had to be dumped.

I've been thro a Bosch since and it didn't compare to the New Wave machines. Awesome machines and as Darren says they where years ahead of other manufacters. In fact 12 years on and there really hasn't been much improvement. Apart from dropping 10 or so litres of water per wash load but to the detriment of the rinsing performance. They were also a fun machine to watch. The spin bursts and spin rinsing were great ideas and a shame that they were dropped when Candy made the Quattro machines under Hoovers name.
The final spin had that awesome Hoover 'gear shift' sound as it dropped from 800 for a sec or so before it ramped straight up to 1500 for three or so mins.

As for the sunslocking - I clearly remember the user manual have a couple lines in Bold about using very diffferent wash phases and parts and therefore needing a reduced amount of detergent.. A real shame the Org Hoover comp isn't around today - but the New Wave plus 5 was a great machine to go out on and pi**ed over anything that it's nearest rival was selling at the time.
 
Differences of the New Wave machines

Thanks for all your replies.

The early New Wave machines were purely electronic, in that the timing circuitry was done by microchips. This range did not to have a fault locator, nor a programme-progress indication, nor wash temperature indication. Apparently the boards were the least reliable parts of the machines!

The later machines (New Wave Plus 5) had a hybrid electronic-electromechanical timer; had all the things that the early models didn't.

I really liked the style of the fascia, with the 'wave' bezel.

The Which? magazine tested the machine around about 1993, and found the dial control easy to use. (Wish Hoover kept it for their current ranges!)

Around this time Which? tested 25 different machines: 13 machines turned out to be faulty! One of them was the "New Wave" which had a faulty pcb. I think another was the "Classica" that washed too hot (50degrees instead of 40). A Bosch leaked from its internal hose; another machine (was it Philips/Whirlpool?) had to be withdrawn from testing because it shook itself to bits.

It was the worst writeup I've seen.
 
Aquarius1984

The "New Wave", "Classica" and "Softwave" ranges were the last genuine Hoover-designed machines, as other posters have mentioned. I remember thinking at the time that, Hoover had copied Hotpoint in the tub/door-interlock design.

"Lifting the door..." We had to do the same! Even after the engineer fitted a metal spring to release the door.
 
My model was from 1994, when i selected a prog it would flash between the number of the programme you'd selected and the temp it runs at. and its countdown began once you pressed start -9 thru to -1 which were the different programme stages. I didn't have a manual but soon got to know which was which.

I had a classica back in 1997. It once had a rather entertaining fault. The pump failed at it span at 1000rpm with a tub full of rinse water lol needless to say the items were well rinsed lol. i switched it off as soon as i realised i didnt want to blow it up lol!

It would be nice if i could find a plus 5 model. preferabley high speed and in one of the many colour variants!

Darren
 
Talking of this series of machines

whilst in second year at university (1998) and living out, the machine we inherited with the house (Hotpoint 9541 variable 1000 model) gave up the ghost.

Me and a mate, being the only ones showing an interest in getting a replacement, went to the local second hand appliance bloke and bought the most expensive machine he had (cause it looked good!) - a Hoover Classica 1000 for £175.

Not being particularly knowledgeable about these machines, I think i'd be right in saying this was the middle range of machines, slotting in between the 'new wave' (top - smart and wavey) and 'soft wave' (bottom - horrible, tacky and very plastic - put together from a spare parts raid!).

Anyways, with people mentioning failings of this series of machines, I thought I would mention the entertaining spin cycles of our purchase.

Basically, it seemed to be useless at balancing its loads, but the result was not side to side vibration, but a very alarming coulple of jumps forward (and I mean jumps forward) and associated loud banging, until it got itself sorted.
Once into its stride it was fine.

On manually banging the drum against the front of the machine there appeared to be absolutely no give for back and forward movement. My parents hotpoint 95452 (8 years before its bearing finally went) had huge amounts of back and forward suspension and was always a superbly balanced machine.

I cant imagine any transit bolt, which prevented any back and forward motion, was left in the machine as it had been installed in someones house, removed, repaired or checked over and then installed in ours.

Was this a design flaw or a problem with only my houses machine? Any ideas guys?

Cheers
paul
P.S piccy is not of my machine - but one identical to it

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Paul!
Sounds like you had a faulty one there! I remember mine having backward and forward movement. Maybe the suspension was naffed?

Heres a pic of one similar to the one i had

Darren

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bit of a montage

top left - new wave washer dryer
middle right - crystaljet dw (in new wave style)
top right - soft wave washer
bottom left - new wave washer dryer
bottom middle - classica dryer
bottom right - soft wave washer dryer

both the soft waves are on ebay at the moment if anyone is inerested in 'biting'.

Cheers
paul

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There were green synthetic 'tapes' that were supposed to (I presume) act as limiters in terms of front-to-back movement, alongside the top springs on our New Wave.

Maybe the springs or tapes were knackered?
 
Hi Darren.

More than likely the case.
It was almost as if the suspension was locked as far as front and back was concerned - totally no give.

Consequence - the eventful spin cycles and probably the reason why it found its way to the second hand market.

Thankfully the rubber feet always did their job and it never went 'walkies'. Just happily jumped back and forth each spin cycle, within its cage.

Lovely looking machine, but with a fatal flaw (as far as my machine was concerned anyway).

paul
 
I really liked my classica. Used 75litres so the rinses were a little higher than the newwave! I loved the almond too. That's ideally what i'd like an almond newwave like my friend has, its bloody beautiful!

My newwave when it was on my tilefloor had a habit of walkies, but when i moved it into the garage with the rest and levelled it properly it jst vibrated nicely!

I loved the front fill on it too. Though it'd take an age cuz the clothes just absorbed loads of the water! lol.

Darren
 
Matchboxpaul

I liked the look of the "New Wave" "Crystaljet" dishwashers. They apparently suffered from poor washing in the upper basket area. Data Book suggested slow rotational speed of upper spray arm was to blame.
 

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