mcduffpth
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WM25 + TL21
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The Hotpoint WM12 has a new partner - Hotpoint TL21
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WM25 + TL21
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WM25 + TL21
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glenfieldmathk1
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WM25+TL21
How often have your bearings/brushes lasted in your washing machine?
Looks in very good condition.
Looks modern too, shame they don't make them any more.
How often have your bearings/brushes lasted in your washing machine?
Looks in very good condition.
Looks modern too, shame they don't make them any more.
mcduffpth
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WM25 + TL21
Still original bearings in WM25 although there is now a noticeable rumble when spinning so I think a bearing change will be on the cards quite soon. It's quite a brush-hungry machine and has had many brush changes through the years. Had new commutator and brushes fitted a few months ago.
Still original bearings in WM25 although there is now a noticeable rumble when spinning so I think a bearing change will be on the cards quite soon. It's quite a brush-hungry machine and has had many brush changes through the years. Had new commutator and brushes fitted a few months ago.
aquarius8000
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Hi Grant
Those look absolutly stunning! Thanks for the photos.My TL21 does a few towels in just 40 mins on high wether as my old dryer(White Knight compact) took absolutle ages and its more effeciant according to the meter. I think its a D and so was the previous dryer was but probbabtly moer eco effeciant as it dries more. the dryer for the house is a zanussi TC481 dryer bought new in 1999and a Hotpoint WT960P wich isnt particularly great(could do with a new door seal) .Please try both your machines keep them both going as they are the best hotpoints ever. BTW do see my vids of it - on Youtube. see the link.
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Those look absolutly stunning! Thanks for the photos.My TL21 does a few towels in just 40 mins on high wether as my old dryer(White Knight compact) took absolutle ages and its more effeciant according to the meter. I think its a D and so was the previous dryer was but probbabtly moer eco effeciant as it dries more. the dryer for the house is a zanussi TC481 dryer bought new in 1999and a Hotpoint WT960P wich isnt particularly great(could do with a new door seal) .Please try both your machines keep them both going as they are the best hotpoints ever. BTW do see my vids of it - on Youtube. see the link.
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electradeluxe
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what a cracking pair you have there!! 
he he, i much preferred those style of Hotpoints than the ones with the chunky doors
he he, i much preferred those style of Hotpoints than the ones with the chunky doors
Hotpoint Matching Sets
Welcome to the club Grant, those are a stunning pair of original Hotpoints, and look even better as a matched set...Had forgotten how shiny the fascias where after years of matt brown!!
Heres the spec sheet to compare:
Welcome to the club Grant, those are a stunning pair of original Hotpoints, and look even better as a matched set...Had forgotten how shiny the fascias where after years of matt brown!!
Heres the spec sheet to compare:
zanussi_lover
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Notice at the bottom
they say Hotpoint Recommends Persil and Comfort in its machines
Shame that Hotpoint now recommend Ariel.
they say Hotpoint Recommends Persil and Comfort in its machines
Shame that Hotpoint now recommend Ariel.
mcduffpth
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Hotpoint matching sets
Thanks <a></a>for that Mike - it was the shiny facias that attracted me to them when I bought them all those years ago, lol.
Thats an impressive list of machines you have there
Cheers
Grant
Thanks <a></a>for that Mike - it was the shiny facias that attracted me to them when I bought them all those years ago, lol.
Thats an impressive list of machines you have there
Cheers
Grant
mcduffpth
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Notice at the bottom
I've never really been a fan of Ariel or Persil - my mother always used Ariel in her twin tub when I was a child - Daz is my choice when it comes to getting my whites white, nothing else gets my uniform shirts as clean and a lovely smell too
Grant
I've never really been a fan of Ariel or Persil - my mother always used Ariel in her twin tub when I was a child - Daz is my choice when it comes to getting my whites white, nothing else gets my uniform shirts as clean and a lovely smell too
Grant
aquarius8000
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Hi Mike, Grant and Kyle
Mike - thanks for the scan. can i see the wm12 if you have please.
Grant/Kyle - I tend to use what ever I am in the mood for - open bottle of lenor. And I use Bold sometimes.
Mike - thanks for the scan. can i see the wm12 if you have please.
Grant/Kyle - I tend to use what ever I am in the mood for - open bottle of lenor. And I use Bold sometimes.
glenfieldmathk1
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@aquarius8000
As Far as I am aware, the WM12 spec is identicle to the WM14, as is my WM31, with the WM34, just the machines on that scan are the newer models, that came in slightly after the WM12, WM31's etc. The WM12, WM31's etc were based on previous designs, the WM34, WM14 etc were based on the WM12, WM31 designs. I think production was running at the same time, for a few months after the WM14, WM34 were launched.
Someone might tell otherwise, but that is what I thought.
As Far as I am aware, the WM12 spec is identicle to the WM14, as is my WM31, with the WM34, just the machines on that scan are the newer models, that came in slightly after the WM12, WM31's etc. The WM12, WM31's etc were based on previous designs, the WM34, WM14 etc were based on the WM12, WM31 designs. I think production was running at the same time, for a few months after the WM14, WM34 were launched.
Someone might tell otherwise, but that is what I thought.
glenfieldmathk1
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@mcduffpth
Wow, thanks for informing me about the bearings, I wasn't expecting them to be the original ones still. Just watch out, once they are replaced, the new ones wear out quicker
Yes, Our WM31 regularly needed brushes changing. However since May 2010, the HEC motor was installed (replaced the old GDA one-because it seized up), now the brushes are still strong nearly 2 years on! (just wished it still had the original).
Wow, thanks for informing me about the bearings, I wasn't expecting them to be the original ones still. Just watch out, once they are replaced, the new ones wear out quicker
Yes, Our WM31 regularly needed brushes changing. However since May 2010, the HEC motor was installed (replaced the old GDA one-because it seized up), now the brushes are still strong nearly 2 years on! (just wished it still had the original).
aquarius1984
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Just watch out, once they are replaced, the new ones wear ou
Not neccesarily the case at all,
Glenfieldmathk1 I have no idea what gives you this impression but its simply not the case.
Bearings are an item which depend entirely on quality of production and the manner in which they are replaced.
A good set of bearings made and fitted correctly can last any number of years, likewise a decent set of bearings installed shoddily will wear out quicker.
Cheaper lesser made bearings can still last a good time if installed well too,
Point in case - The Hoover A3060 was a problematic machine with the bearings not lasting due to the 1100 spin, Hoover replaced a good number of these shoddy bearings under warranty as they wore out on 2 and 3 year old machines. Once replaced with bearings up for the job these machines went on to provide years of service trouble free.
Please dont come on here without getting your facts right and scaremongering with unthougthout and uneducated comments.
Grant Welcome to the club, Fabulous set you have there, im quite envious. They Look FAB.
Always prefer a side by side line up myself but currently have stacked to facilitate dryer venting. Come summer I hope to get extra work top installed with thru wall venting and the Hotpoint 95620 repaired to go alongside its dryer partner.
Lived with a WM12 for a while, which is still going after all these 18 years with just one brush change, a new door seal and a bearing change 4 years ago.
The Owner wont part with it as it suits her needs brilliantly.
Fingers crossed for another 16 odd years out of yours - if the bearings do need doing get them done ASAP before they collapse completely and require a new drum spider. Rusted bearings are no fun to remove for anyone. Hotpoint run a repair service for around £150 which is well worth it for an overhaul and the work is guaranteed after that too which will cover you well. Failing that if your handy yourself its a time consuming job but quite achievebale if you have the right tools.
Rob
Not neccesarily the case at all,
Glenfieldmathk1 I have no idea what gives you this impression but its simply not the case.
Bearings are an item which depend entirely on quality of production and the manner in which they are replaced.
A good set of bearings made and fitted correctly can last any number of years, likewise a decent set of bearings installed shoddily will wear out quicker.
Cheaper lesser made bearings can still last a good time if installed well too,
Point in case - The Hoover A3060 was a problematic machine with the bearings not lasting due to the 1100 spin, Hoover replaced a good number of these shoddy bearings under warranty as they wore out on 2 and 3 year old machines. Once replaced with bearings up for the job these machines went on to provide years of service trouble free.
Please dont come on here without getting your facts right and scaremongering with unthougthout and uneducated comments.
Grant Welcome to the club, Fabulous set you have there, im quite envious. They Look FAB.
Always prefer a side by side line up myself but currently have stacked to facilitate dryer venting. Come summer I hope to get extra work top installed with thru wall venting and the Hotpoint 95620 repaired to go alongside its dryer partner.
Lived with a WM12 for a while, which is still going after all these 18 years with just one brush change, a new door seal and a bearing change 4 years ago.
The Owner wont part with it as it suits her needs brilliantly.
Fingers crossed for another 16 odd years out of yours - if the bearings do need doing get them done ASAP before they collapse completely and require a new drum spider. Rusted bearings are no fun to remove for anyone. Hotpoint run a repair service for around £150 which is well worth it for an overhaul and the work is guaranteed after that too which will cover you well. Failing that if your handy yourself its a time consuming job but quite achievebale if you have the right tools.
Rob
mcduffpth
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Hi Rob
Thanks for the welcome.
I was considering attempting the bearing change myself. Is there any specialised tools I might need for the job? I have found a few "YouTube" videos of bearings being changed and it seems a hammer, chisel and brute force are the order of the day. I would like to get it done asap as, apart from the noise when spinning, I'm aware it's not doing the machine any favours running it like that.
Cheers
Grant
Thanks for the welcome.
I was considering attempting the bearing change myself. Is there any specialised tools I might need for the job? I have found a few "YouTube" videos of bearings being changed and it seems a hammer, chisel and brute force are the order of the day. I would like to get it done asap as, apart from the noise when spinning, I'm aware it's not doing the machine any favours running it like that.
Cheers
Grant
aquarius1984
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Grant,
Tools needed from what I remember, are the socket wrench and correct socket. Rubber/Wood Mallet, Chock of sturdy wood that will fit between the Pulley (wheel that the belt rides on to turn the drum) and the ridges in the back of the plastic outer tub.
Also its a good idea to have a piece of wood that fits over the bearing from the back of the tub and will push out on its outer races. Push the inner bearing race and you will kiss goodbye to the bearing.
Likewise for the inner tub bearing that you access from the inside once the washing drum has been removed.
Those videos are quite good and are not too far from how it ought to be.
Set aside a good mornings work, and go at your own pace. Most of the hassle is dismantling the machine and getting the old bearings out. After slipping the new ones in and reassembly is a doddle.
If you do start and you dont feel confident after a while its always best to call in a pro. I would reccomend the Hotpoint service/overhaul fee. Im sure for a one off payment they will look at everything so if there are other issues too it may work out much cheaper anyway.
What you do nned to be careful of is that when you leave the bearing repair long enough it will usually end up with the ALuminium spider that attaches the washing drum to the outer pulley cracking snapping and damaged which is another part to buy when the originals are usually in good condition. So please do attend to it sooner than later. Spider repairs are a pain to do and one less thing that neednt of happened.
Let us know how you get on!
Rob
Tools needed from what I remember, are the socket wrench and correct socket. Rubber/Wood Mallet, Chock of sturdy wood that will fit between the Pulley (wheel that the belt rides on to turn the drum) and the ridges in the back of the plastic outer tub.
Also its a good idea to have a piece of wood that fits over the bearing from the back of the tub and will push out on its outer races. Push the inner bearing race and you will kiss goodbye to the bearing.
Likewise for the inner tub bearing that you access from the inside once the washing drum has been removed.
Those videos are quite good and are not too far from how it ought to be.
Set aside a good mornings work, and go at your own pace. Most of the hassle is dismantling the machine and getting the old bearings out. After slipping the new ones in and reassembly is a doddle.
If you do start and you dont feel confident after a while its always best to call in a pro. I would reccomend the Hotpoint service/overhaul fee. Im sure for a one off payment they will look at everything so if there are other issues too it may work out much cheaper anyway.
What you do nned to be careful of is that when you leave the bearing repair long enough it will usually end up with the ALuminium spider that attaches the washing drum to the outer pulley cracking snapping and damaged which is another part to buy when the originals are usually in good condition. So please do attend to it sooner than later. Spider repairs are a pain to do and one less thing that neednt of happened.
Let us know how you get on!
Rob
glenfieldmathk1
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@aquarius1984
I am only going on my own experience from my WM31, the bearings lasted 4 years, the original, the next set needed changing year on year, one lot only lasted 5 months.
The latest ones that they have put in were replaced in 2010, so lasted 2 years, but they are on their way out, and rumble.
I am only going on my own experience from my WM31, the bearings lasted 4 years, the original, the next set needed changing year on year, one lot only lasted 5 months.
The latest ones that they have put in were replaced in 2010, so lasted 2 years, but they are on their way out, and rumble.
mcduffpth
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Mission Accomplished
WM25 bearings changed today, took me most of the afternoon but did it without too much hassle. Getting the old ones out was the most problematic part but brute force and a bit of swearing got them out, lol....
Pic 1
Stripping the machine down to remove the tub
WM25 bearings changed today, took me most of the afternoon but did it without too much hassle. Getting the old ones out was the most problematic part but brute force and a bit of swearing got them out, lol....
Pic 1
Stripping the machine down to remove the tub
mcduffpth
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Mission Accomplished
Pic 2
Drum out
Pic 2
Drum out
