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a yellow dog democrat

Is not limited to Dixie - as long as I was voting in the 'States, I was one, too.
A yellow dog democrat is someone who would rather vote for a yellow dog than a republican.
The phrase does originate, however, in Dixie. Rita Mae Brown once wrote that you don't vote Republican or Democrat, you vote for whoever will do what's best for Dixie. Suppose that comment immediately made her a fascist, knee-jerk homophobic, bible thumping blue-rinsed...for quite a few folks who need to buy a clue.

Don't feel too bad Jon Charles - I've been accused of being heterosexual myself. There are always some people who try to force their definition of what it is to be black or Jewish or Christian or Republican/Democratic or liberal or gay down your throat.

I took a lot of hell here recently and had my card carrying liberal status revoked by the liberaller-than-thou ladies for daring to like shooting. I'm a vegetarian, firmly believe you should not eat what you aren't willing to kill and skin yourself (I fish, for instance) (bad at it, too impatient) but for those dear ladies, only knee-jerk, follow the party line knee-jerk echos are permitted. There can be no deviation from the progressive position. Every position I have ever taken on human rights and the environment was immediately le Poof! null and void, I had become a bitter, bible-thumpin', red-neck, backwoods conservative. Maytagbear and Conate, two people who actually think first, react second (they both probably have "I like Ike" buttons secretly pinnd to the back of their lapels) defended me. Which says a lot good about our group!
Same shit those of us who believe in the right for gays to marry had to put up with in the "progressive" gay world for years. Same shit bottoms have to take from tops who demand their compliance with gay societies' stereotypes.
Same...you name it, whether you are too feminine or not enough "fabulous"...
This group is tolerant and friendly. We are lucky to have Robert leading us. When I saw that IP and place not line up yesterday (we're 6-9 hours ahead of you folks in the 'States) my first thought was, oh, bloody - not again. Still don't know whether was a troll or just a somewhat curious freshman at the university in Duluth.
So, nope, Matthew, didn't mean you - the first post in this thread originated from their server.
 
I too am a straight christian man that loves old timey washers and anything else old. I also love this site and all the people here, wish I could afford to fly out to some of the washins to meet some of you. I dont post alot,but I read all the posts everyday. You guys are a big part of my lonely appliance loving life and you probably did not know that. My wife and family nor none of my friends share my love for old things in the appliance catergory, so I want all of you to know that I appreciate all of you. Don.
 
Oh Keven I always KNEW your were a sensible person. LOL

Hi Rich, hi Chuck... *WAVES*

I'm a vegetarian, firmly believe you should not eat what you aren't willing to kill.........

(GD IT DOES HAVE TEETH!)

Q: What is the difference between a northern zoo and a southern zoo?
A: There is a recipe by each of the displays in a southern zoo.

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XPHSTOS ANESTI

and to you to...

A good resurrection and a happy Easter!
(for us Easter ALWAYS comes after Passover)

And the word for Easter is PASCHA which is the Greek language way of saying the Hebrew PESACH (Passover).
 
Curious Thread, But Since You Asked....

After reading the thread and all the comments, I have to submit my two cents.
When I was seven or eight years old, I had a problem concentrating on schoolwork. My teachers and the principal thought I was bright but not "normal" (whatever that meant) in my interaction with other classmates. So I was sent to a school psychologist. He had a number of toys and other items inside his office, and asked me to play with the one I liked the most. Well, one of the toys happened to be a washer you cranked to make the agitator move. I began to play with it because I thought it was interesting. Years later, my mother was told by the psychologist I had "homosexual" urges because I picked the washer! She quickly pulled me out of the psychologist's clutches and put me back in school. I never heard about the doctor or anything else from my teachers ever again.
Of course, the irony is that the doctor was right and I did grow up gay. Sadly my mother never knew; I never told her but my sister later told me Mom had an inkling about my sexual orientation. Of course, Mom never knew that my sister would later come out as a lesbian. Go figure.
And yes, just the sight of a restored automatic from my childhood (especially Sears Kenmores) bring out the Suzy Homemaker in me. Glad to know I'm not the only one!
 
Why?????

Why should one's sexual preference dictate what hobbies a perosn should be interested in????

I'm straight, married, Christian, tax payer and cannot get enough of this site. As a kid I could not do school work but could tell anyone how they washer and dryer worked. My parents thought well this is just the way he is.

I'm like Oldwasher guy. No one in my realm of freinds or family share the same obsession with appliances that I do. My in-laws make fun of me all the time about it. Maybe that's why we don't live near them.
 
When I was alot younger, I used to love washing machines too. But when I hit 10 or 11, that's when I fell in love with dishwashers and garbage disposals. It has now been carried on as a 20 year love affair...but I picked up a love of guys along the way!
 
Which all goes to prove

You don't have to be gay to have good taste - and Don, I wish you would post more often -
You just have to have curiousity. Sadly, our society is not keen on boys being curious about domestic appliances. Weird, huh? I can change my own oil in my Chevy, fix the climate control (again) in my partner's Cadillac, and that makes me a man. But let me get all hard and hot at the sight of a thumper or a real Maytag...and people think I'm a nut case. And those are the one's who don't know me.
Toggles, no naming names unless people have a sense of humor. You can pull my leg, tease me mercilessly and generally poke holes in my arrogance...but some folks get their feelings hurt and Samantha gets nasty notes...and then I have to apologize to her...and one of these days they are going to make us post only in Germany and Greek alone.
Then they will refer to us a "gaga" and I think I'd better stop here or we'll get in trouble again.
Seriously, I wish a lot of the folks like seeitrun2006 and Dan and Jason and especially Maytagmom would post more often - I hope to hell my firm opinons (one says in German: Null Ahnung, dafür aber viel davon) haven't scared anyone off.
 
It Would Seem...

...That this board is full of people who are able to make up their own minds about what and who they should like, without taking their cues from churches, media pundits, the more dysfunctional members of their families, schools, or political parties.

There is hope.
 
"Sadly, our society is not keen on boys being curious about domestic appliances."

I don't know, Keven. I'm seeing this change a bit, at least around my neck of the woods. I think the newer styles in washing machines are, in a way, making it more acceptable to be "into" washers and laundry culture.

I think the economy may have something to do with it, as well. A lot of the moms on my block are working, indeed sometimes extra and longer hours to make ends meet.

More and more, dad is expected to hold his end up at home with the household chores (doesn't mean they all know what they're doing, but they're learning).

I don't think being into washers, vacuums, etc. is even going to seem weird to anyone in another ten years or so.
 
Yup,

And sometimes there's a Lord Kenmore in us, too.

I have very dear friends who are raising a boy. Their son is five now, can read and almost write. A bright kid, cheerful and pleasant to be around. My cat taught him how to climb when he was still very young; unfortunately she also taught him a few other tricks which we won't go into here.

His live in grandmother (mom had a bad accident and needed help for quite some time) is one of those hysterical super-green-bio-energetic-save-the-world-vegan-anti-gender-rolemodel.....
Well, you get the picture. She has a cow every Christmas (actually, December 8) when I go shopping and let David chose a toy of his choice.
So far he has chosen:
A drill (a real one, I took the battery pack out. He can have it when he's older. Maybe 21.)
A soldier with realistic sounds, machine gun and a sling of hand grenades.
A bull-dozer.
She gives him books which are very age appropriate and boring as hell, dolls and the sort of stuff I would have died for as a kid - felt crafts, make your own jewelry, etc. (I gave him the Michel aus Lönneberga and Pippe Langstrumpf stories and then had to read them with him a zillion times, his dad said he learned to read from Astrid Lundgrün).
He has never, not once, even opened the boxes. Just looks at them, looks at his parents and me. Says a very polite "dankeschön, Oma" and I know next week we are donating toys to the orphans down the street.
Again.
The neutral gender clothes (those hideous washed out pink and green colors in scratchy natural fabrics) he reserves for sick days at home - he wears "Männersachen" to school - like all the boys.
When we are out walking (he really likes to go shopping, when we go to the Öko-Markt to buy soy milk and tofu, we pass by a McDonalds. There is a collection of Happy Meal toys on my windowsill - we have an agreement. He doesn't mention the golden arches to grandma and I promise not to play with the toys when not babysitting. So far, so good...). I suppose, as a vegetarian, I shouldn't be caught dead in McDonalds with him, but nothing is more fun than seeing him slosh his French fries through the ketchup and blowing bubbles in his Co'cola. He very solemnly wraps the last bite of his double-heart-attack-with a side of cholesterol BigMac for my cat and gives it to her when she is in town, to me to give to her when she's at my folks'. (Never seen the cat touch it once, which says something about the "meat" in their stuff, but I digress).
Point is: The kid's straight and very macho. No way in hell to change it - no reason to want to in my view. Might as well enjoy it. Already has regular school yard fights and a girl friend...I figure, in my declining years, he can chop wood and fix my cars for me. Grandma can do all she wants, what's in the genes is in the genes.
 
Hey Don & Dave I know what you mean. Nobody I know gets into appliances and old mechanical items the way I do. This site is a great outlet ;-) for guys like us. Well not exactly like "us" since I'm 1000% a man's man.
 
The accceptance of members on this site is very welcomeing and comfortting. Even for those of us who are gay and cant' spel or punkchewate

Don't worrie = be happy....
 
Control issue

That kid's gran has issues, much like Neville's gran in the Harry Potter series.

Best he can do when he turns 18, is get the hell out of there and don't take no sh*t from the woman.

Being a girly-boy and wanting to play with girls stuff is fine. Being a tomboy (girl) is also fine.

But forcing someone to do what they want them to do is bad. Ask me how I know ;-)
 
Well,

She means well and I do have to say, at least she is getting more flexible. Called me (in the US!) last winter to ask where I'd got the cute mobile hanging from his ceiling. Told her I'd made it on heavy photographic stock from a picture he'd got at the zoo. So she made him something similar for his birthday...and he liked that.
I can understand trying to raise a child without forcing it to be a certain way, it is just - you're either so or so from your very birth. The kid grew up spending lots of time with a gay uncle, gay neighbor and family which really doesn't care either way (the joys of a truly Christian upbringing as opposed to the fundamentalists). And he has been a macho, hetero- in the making from day one.
Last week his mom told me that he'd decided he wants to learn to ride a motorcycle now that he can ride a bicycle (the riding and bike is more falling over and getting up again.) She asked me not to give him ideas. So what did we look up on the computer after dinner? I suggested we google (safe search on strict) mythical Japenese playing card creatures. He catches the one with the motorcycle (I can't even pronounce it, much less write it) and away we go - two clicks on the picture and we now are in Riceburner land.
You gotta take 'em as they are, and be thankful when they have ten fingers, two eyes and something between their ears. When there's a heart in there, too - you've hit the jackpot.
 
That has to be one of the nicest quotes I have ever heard about children.
I wrote it down to pass on to a friend of my mothers.
She has to be the worst grandmother for putting down her grandkids for not being good enuff at everything.
I have met 2 of them and they are so starved for attention.
Both parents work, the dad is a dink with no social skills.
They have put both kids in every club and activity at school.
From soccer to violin.
How many kids would pick violin by choice?
And then to have a granny telling you you're not good enuff?
Oh those poor kids!
Wait till they get older and into therapy.
If they were just normal kids peering into basement windows to see what kind of washers were down there, or using the neighbours vaccum everyday they would be ok.
Just look at me, just as normal as all of you, except those voices that tell me fire is good
 
Couldn't care less who's gay or straight here:

Just wanted to chime in and say Happy Belated Easter to all our Orthodox friends!
Bobby in Boston
 
Panthera

That kid rocks!

So he's a man, eh? There's not alot of those around here. They're too PW in the US.

Well, go, kid! I wanted a motorcycle when I was a teenager but was quickly put in my place by my parents.

A high five to him and "HUMPH HUMPH HUMPH HUMPH HUMPH!" (Tim Allen style).
 

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