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Plugged the Miele into the female end; still alive, machine is dormant and waiting:
Plugged the Miele into the female end; still alive, machine is dormant and waiting:
The Miele is home
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Eureka!
Set the dial for my first "Kochwasche" and she starts up without a hitch!
Set the dial for my first "Kochwasche" and she starts up without a hitch!
My first Miele load since 1978
My usual load of white towels and I'm thrilled. Fills with cold water but after 20 minutes the glass in the porthole is hot to the touch. What an elegant little machine. Now I know how "Normal Boys"(as my dear father would say), feel when they drive home their first Porsche. Right now it's working on it's last rinse and getting ready for that 1600 rpm "schleudlern". I'm really going to need some help from some of you German speakers. Google translate does not recognize appliance terms.
Thanks to everybody for your help and advice!
My usual load of white towels and I'm thrilled. Fills with cold water but after 20 minutes the glass in the porthole is hot to the touch. What an elegant little machine. Now I know how "Normal Boys"(as my dear father would say), feel when they drive home their first Porsche. Right now it's working on it's last rinse and getting ready for that 1600 rpm "schleudlern". I'm really going to need some help from some of you German speakers. Google translate does not recognize appliance terms.
Thanks to everybody for your help and advice!
Worth the money, if you have it.
This is truly No-Fucking-Around-Laundering; I am impressed. Those German engineers consulted my Grandmother before they designed this washer.
If this thing were twice as large as it is, it would be the perfect washing machine.
Now that the virgin load is done, a couple of questions:
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<li>What's the deal with chlorine bleach and Mieles? Will Clorox really damage the machine, as the manuals say? What if I want to use a little of it to sanitize the interior?</li>
<li>When the machine came to the end of the cycle and the countdown reached "0", the machine didn't turn off by itself. It continued to tumble the wash periodically(I don't exactly know how long; I got distracted) and the display remained on for at least 1 hour. I guess there are designed for the user to manually turn the machine off when laundry is done?</li>
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This is truly No-Fucking-Around-Laundering; I am impressed. Those German engineers consulted my Grandmother before they designed this washer.
If this thing were twice as large as it is, it would be the perfect washing machine.
Now that the virgin load is done, a couple of questions:
<ol>
<li>What's the deal with chlorine bleach and Mieles? Will Clorox really damage the machine, as the manuals say? What if I want to use a little of it to sanitize the interior?</li>
<li>When the machine came to the end of the cycle and the countdown reached "0", the machine didn't turn off by itself. It continued to tumble the wash periodically(I don't exactly know how long; I got distracted) and the display remained on for at least 1 hour. I guess there are designed for the user to manually turn the machine off when laundry is done?</li>
</ol>
miele_ge
Well-known member
i think i can answer your questions
1. I think the LCB prohibition is due to the high temps the machine is capable of. Cannot imagine bringing a solution of LCB to a near boil would be good for the air or components of the machine. I have had Miele laundry for around 16 years and have never had the need for LCB. The temps reached in the Kochwasche cycle will certainly sanitize the machine as well as remove stains, and I have never had a mold problem or funky smell in either machine. I only use Persil powder detergents and no FS.
2. My 1986 will tumble the load for a time (I think its about an hour but not sure) to prevent creasing after the wash is complete. You shouldn't have to do anything special other than take the laundry out of the machine when finished. I don't usually turn off the power switch, but you can.
Glad you got it up and running. You are right, there is really no comparison to these 220 Volt Miele machines!
I still have that dryer waiting for a mate - it is free for the taking.
Alan
1. I think the LCB prohibition is due to the high temps the machine is capable of. Cannot imagine bringing a solution of LCB to a near boil would be good for the air or components of the machine. I have had Miele laundry for around 16 years and have never had the need for LCB. The temps reached in the Kochwasche cycle will certainly sanitize the machine as well as remove stains, and I have never had a mold problem or funky smell in either machine. I only use Persil powder detergents and no FS.
2. My 1986 will tumble the load for a time (I think its about an hour but not sure) to prevent creasing after the wash is complete. You shouldn't have to do anything special other than take the laundry out of the machine when finished. I don't usually turn off the power switch, but you can.
Glad you got it up and running. You are right, there is really no comparison to these 220 Volt Miele machines!
I still have that dryer waiting for a mate - it is free for the taking.
Alan
German/English
The buttons left to right are:
Door
On/Off
Soak
Pre-Wash
"Water-plus" (higher water level?)
Short (wash)
The lights next to the time display indicate what time it's showing. The top one is:
Delayed Start time (probably hours/minutes until cycle starts - no idea what you press to set this time though)
The lower one is:
Remaining time (until end of cycle)
Perhaps the button between these lights and the display determines which you're seeing, but I wonder how you set the desired delayed start?
"Schleudern" is to spin. You can select the speed, or "Spuelstop" (pause after final rinse with water in tub", or "ohne Endschleudern" (without final spin), which probably just drains at the end, without spinning
I really can't read the "Ablauf" column of lights/labels, but I'm happy to give it a go if you upload a clearer photo.
In the meantime, keep having fun with your new machine. It looks great!
Nick
The buttons left to right are:
Door
On/Off
Soak
Pre-Wash
"Water-plus" (higher water level?)
Short (wash)
The lights next to the time display indicate what time it's showing. The top one is:
Delayed Start time (probably hours/minutes until cycle starts - no idea what you press to set this time though)
The lower one is:
Remaining time (until end of cycle)
Perhaps the button between these lights and the display determines which you're seeing, but I wonder how you set the desired delayed start?
"Schleudern" is to spin. You can select the speed, or "Spuelstop" (pause after final rinse with water in tub", or "ohne Endschleudern" (without final spin), which probably just drains at the end, without spinning
I really can't read the "Ablauf" column of lights/labels, but I'm happy to give it a go if you upload a clearer photo.
In the meantime, keep having fun with your new machine. It looks great!
Nick
Miele
I can only reinforce what Alan and Nick have already said. My Miele washer is rather newer but I can add a couple more points:
Soak is presented as a more ecological alternative to pre-wash - it may be possible to re-programme the length, mine is as it came from the factory at two hours. I don't think I have used prewash once in the 12 years I have had my machine, nor the short option - I now use the soak occasionally, particularly on whites, in my former, all electric home I used it regularly to delay the "proper" start to the wash till after the cheap, night rate, electric tariff kicked in.
I normally use the "water plus" option to assist with rinsing. If you live in a soft water area you will be amazed how little detergent you need - I have soft water and a full whites load will come out spotless with one (UK Persil) gel pod.
You really should not need to use LCB in your wash with heating the water from cold and the occasional use of high temperature washes should put paid to any sanatise concerns you might have. I use mine as follows:
Shirts - permanent press 40 degrees
Colourfast Cottons (inc. socks) cottons 40 degrees
Whites: T shirts & underwear - cottons 60 degrees
Bedding - depending on whether its white or coloured these usually get included in the whites or coloured loads - as I live alone they help make up a full load.
Towels - 75 degree - i dont actually consider I need to wash them this hot but it my way of doing a "maintenance" wash for the machine.
If I want a quicker wash for any reason I will normally use one of the permanent press cycles and, if necessary, give the clothes an extra spin afterwards as it only has a short spin.
If you make sure you dry the door boot and leave the door and drawer open for a couple of hours after you have finished the laundry you should have no mould issues.
I wonder if the button to the right of the time display is to set the delayed start?
I am glad you are pleased with your Miele washer, i hope you get many years use from it
Al
I can only reinforce what Alan and Nick have already said. My Miele washer is rather newer but I can add a couple more points:
Soak is presented as a more ecological alternative to pre-wash - it may be possible to re-programme the length, mine is as it came from the factory at two hours. I don't think I have used prewash once in the 12 years I have had my machine, nor the short option - I now use the soak occasionally, particularly on whites, in my former, all electric home I used it regularly to delay the "proper" start to the wash till after the cheap, night rate, electric tariff kicked in.
I normally use the "water plus" option to assist with rinsing. If you live in a soft water area you will be amazed how little detergent you need - I have soft water and a full whites load will come out spotless with one (UK Persil) gel pod.
You really should not need to use LCB in your wash with heating the water from cold and the occasional use of high temperature washes should put paid to any sanatise concerns you might have. I use mine as follows:
Shirts - permanent press 40 degrees
Colourfast Cottons (inc. socks) cottons 40 degrees
Whites: T shirts & underwear - cottons 60 degrees
Bedding - depending on whether its white or coloured these usually get included in the whites or coloured loads - as I live alone they help make up a full load.
Towels - 75 degree - i dont actually consider I need to wash them this hot but it my way of doing a "maintenance" wash for the machine.
If I want a quicker wash for any reason I will normally use one of the permanent press cycles and, if necessary, give the clothes an extra spin afterwards as it only has a short spin.
If you make sure you dry the door boot and leave the door and drawer open for a couple of hours after you have finished the laundry you should have no mould issues.
I wonder if the button to the right of the time display is to set the delayed start?
I am glad you are pleased with your Miele washer, i hope you get many years use from it
Al
German translation
Cycle groups, clockwise direction:
Cottons\Normal
Permanent Press\Easy Care
Delicates
Wool
Mini\Quick
Starching
Extra Spin
Drain
Extra Rinse
Spin Speeds:
As labeled
Rinse Hold (Interim spins, but pauses before the final spin; spinning either by moving the selector to the desired spin speed or selecting Extra Spin)
No spin (That means no spins at all)
Options right to left:
Short
Water Plus
Prewash
Soak (should be 2 hours)
Power
Door
The time delay is selected via that unlabeled button.
The cycle status lights top to bottom are:
On
Prewash\Soak
Main Wash
Rinse 1/2
Rinse 3 (and 4, I think)
Rinse Hold
Drain
Spin
Crease Guard \ End
The most bottom 2 indicators are the water intake \ drain alerts. The PC one is the optical interface for service technicians.
Temperarures can be transfered via Google. C in F.
Cycle groups, clockwise direction:
Cottons\Normal
Permanent Press\Easy Care
Delicates
Wool
Mini\Quick
Starching
Extra Spin
Drain
Extra Rinse
Spin Speeds:
As labeled
Rinse Hold (Interim spins, but pauses before the final spin; spinning either by moving the selector to the desired spin speed or selecting Extra Spin)
No spin (That means no spins at all)
Options right to left:
Short
Water Plus
Prewash
Soak (should be 2 hours)
Power
Door
The time delay is selected via that unlabeled button.
The cycle status lights top to bottom are:
On
Prewash\Soak
Main Wash
Rinse 1/2
Rinse 3 (and 4, I think)
Rinse Hold
Drain
Spin
Crease Guard \ End
The most bottom 2 indicators are the water intake \ drain alerts. The PC one is the optical interface for service technicians.
Temperarures can be transfered via Google. C in F.
LCB
Usually not needed, but we used it at all temperature ranges without problems. There is a syphon-type design integrated in the pipe between the drawer and the tub, thus there is some seperation there. But if you use LCB, you will get some smell of it for sure.
Usually not needed, but we used it at all temperature ranges without problems. There is a syphon-type design integrated in the pipe between the drawer and the tub, thus there is some seperation there. But if you use LCB, you will get some smell of it for sure.
Is there a way to get a reading of the actual water temperature that's in the tub?
No, not without a probe or something, but this series will reach basicly any temp you set spot on...
miele_ge
Well-known member
Henrik, question for you
Do you have a dispenser for LCB on your Miele? Both of mine (1918 and 1986) do not. I do know that the 110 volt machines made for the US market do allow for LCB and have a dispenser for it.
If you don't have a dispenser, do you add it via the soap compartments or into the tub itself?
Regards,
Alan
Do you have a dispenser for LCB on your Miele? Both of mine (1918 and 1986) do not. I do know that the 110 volt machines made for the US market do allow for LCB and have a dispenser for it.
If you don't have a dispenser, do you add it via the soap compartments or into the tub itself?
Regards,
Alan
We had a W961 until a few years ago.
There was no dispenser. Either it was used seperatly during the prewash or if incorporated in the main wash, I added it via the drawer and flushed it with a bit of water, but only after the detergent was flushed in.
There was no dispenser. Either it was used seperatly during the prewash or if incorporated in the main wash, I added it via the drawer and flushed it with a bit of water, but only after the detergent was flushed in.
One more question for the European Miele experts. I think "spulstop" means "rinse stop", but I'm wondering what this button does:
Rinse hold? My 1986 has a fine rinse button which is just a rinse cycle.
Rinse hold
As I wrote above: All interim spins should occur, but before the final spin, the machine stops with the rinse water still in the drum.
As I wrote above: All interim spins should occur, but before the final spin, the machine stops with the rinse water still in the drum.
Now I get it.
Thanks, Henrik, I read that but didn't understand it at first. And it makes sense for washing stuff like a plastic shower curtain that won't be happy with a final spin.
Thanks, Henrik, I read that but didn't understand it at first. And it makes sense for washing stuff like a plastic shower curtain that won't be happy with a final spin.
For shower curtains, no spin would be better, as it cancels all spins, including the spins between rinses.
Its better if you have crease sensitive laundry that you can't get out of the machine right away or if a cycle is limited to a lower spin speed but you like a fast spin speed anyway.
I use it for synthetic curtains or shirts.
Its better if you have crease sensitive laundry that you can't get out of the machine right away or if a cycle is limited to a lower spin speed but you like a fast spin speed anyway.
I use it for synthetic curtains or shirts.
