the most angering laundry commercial and presentation

[gelaundry4ever]

This is the most angering laundry commercial I have EVER seen. And yet, here we are ever since these GE/hotpoint models have been introduced in 2015. I know that chetlaham is going to be very angry as I am.
First of all, how will this washer be built tough? There's nothing tough about it.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

presentation

What is this guy suggesting? So far, I am not seeing any toughness in these GE products. They're still being built with Chinese parts. There is still that hanging suspension. This is why I revive these threads involving these, because apparently nothing has changed. And I suspect the temps are still dumbed down. The agitation is still noisy and is still weak.
Again, how is this built tough? It's just marketing. The real washers and dryers are Speed Queen Laundry as far as I'm concerned. Honestly, I don't see these GE's lasting in a commercial setting.

 

[Chetlaham]

All lies.

 

Companies like GE know words are motivators, not delineators of truth.

 

However there is no need to explain it out. You're second video says it all "pro channel" "100 unit multi family project" and "property management customers". They aren't selling to actual end use humans, they're selling to businessmen looking to stick the cheapest possible prop in a space just so the leasing entity can claim their property has said prop. I've despised the practice and always will. Renting is a scam. Cookie cutters are a manufactured fantasy image. GE is simply the one to fill that demand of the scam which the public has fallen for.  

 

For those who know the truth, yes, it is both painful and maddening. The one good thing about these videos is they make me appreciate my Speed Queen even more. Never take anything for granted is the best thing experience has taught me.

 

[qsd-dan]

Life is too short to be that angry, Jerome.

You should be aware that the advertisement world spends BILLIONS every year pitching their goods to entice buyers. In those advertisements, they go to great lengths stretching the truth and bullshitting their way into getting the consumer to purchase their junk. Sometimes they lie beyond all comprehension. It's the way the world works, that's why one has must spend ample time researching products and combing through reviews instead of impulse buying. It was much easier to fool consumers before the internet was around but there's still a large percentage that believe advertising, base their decision off of looks/appearance (lipstick on a pig), convenience, nametags that changed owners sometimes decades prior or changing hands multiple times, and are too lazy to do their own research.

Maytag was one of the few that could back up their Maytag Man advertisements with the helical design as being the longest running, most dependable washer. However, they also stretched the truth in some of their other products and marketing claims, especially towards the last 1.5 decades of their existence.

The hanging suspension rod design isn't going anywhere in top loaders. It's extremely cheap to build and quick/easy to assemble at the factory. They also get another round of money when it fails in the not so distance future through selling parts. Maytag helical washers were one of the very few washers that had a fully adjustable suspension instead of popping non-adjustable springs into place and having tubs leaning to one side or another even with a perfectly leveled machine. They could also be "tuned" on the soft side for a subfloor or more aggressive on a concrete pad. Dumbed down temps, for the most part, are heavily influenced by EPA regulations. Others use it for "green" purposes through advertising as consuming less recourses/less electricity.

Purchase a vintage top loader if you want a quality built machine that hasn't been heavily regulated by government.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

to chetlaham

Hey chetlaham, this is why I'm grateful for Speed Queen Laundry in my apartment complex. What did you think of the Hotpoint claim of America's hardest working appliances? I suspect that GE/Hotpoint is going for a ride on their reputation still.

 

[wayupnorth]

Why dont you just e/mail chet instead of making all these unnecessary repostings, Jerome. The rest of us are tired of hearing your ranting about nothing you or us have any control over. Many have blocked you and can you finally get the hint.

 

[Chetlaham]

America's hardest working appliances

My guess,  if you take the undersized parts being pushed past their design limits, would technically qualify as America's hardest working contraption. So maybe it could be true in that sense. Of course that is not what GE wants the buyers to take away from that slogan.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

GE/hotpoint

In my opinion, it's all GE/Hotpoint all under the hood. It's just the same machine, different name.

 

[Chetlaham]

They are identical except for a few minor cosmetic differences. It has been that way since the 70s. Perhaps the 80s if you count those porcelain Hotpoints but even then there were porcelain tub dishwashers with the GE label up until the early 90s. 

 

[neptunebob]

But they include the rubber hoses!

The dryer has a "flat back"! The washers have Microban! and the stack comes in a diamond gray color too! What are you all so grouchy about?

 

[maytag85]

Jerome, if you just post for the sake of posting, people will get tired, block, move on. Not to mention, it’s a huge waste of mental energy to just keep on dwelling on the same topic. The only thing I can think of at this point is just to put the subject to rest, or only post in the Imperial or shoppers square forum index. That’s what I’ve been doing as of late myself over the past couple of months.

 

[combo52]

New GE laundry appliances

Hi Jerome, thanks for posting these videos from GE. It’s nice to see that they’re taking laundry appliances seriously again and building good washers and dryers for the money.

Obviously they’re not rugged appliances like Speed Queen but for the money these are going to offer good value and builders will buy them by the thousands,

Many people will get 15 to 30 years out of these machines when they’re in light use situations. My partners older sister has a pair of these basic hot points and we used them several times when I was staying with them over Christmas and they work just fine, she wanted no nonsense machines and didn’t want to pay a fortune for them and I think she got, good performing pair of machines.

John

 

[gelaundry4ever]

GElaundry

I hope GE is continuing to take laundry seriously again. I'd like to see them return to the filter-flo or something that will compete with the Maytag pet pro system.

 

[Chetlaham]

Only way to return would be if everyone who had a modern GE appliance refused to use while demanding a reimbursement from the builder, landlord, housing authority  or property management. If everyone were like me this would have already taken place 25 years ago.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

GE laundry thugs

I agree with you, but the thugs at GE do not want that. All they want is money. They do not care about you as a customer, not even in the upscale segment.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

to chetlaham

Not only did they do that for the prochannel, they did it for upscale buyers too.

 

[Chetlaham]

GE took what money they could from the reputation they built, left everyone on the side, then let Haier take what was left.  

 

[wayupnorth]

How many of these worthless posts do you 2 have to create.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

GE loss of freedom

It's like now we have loss of freedom in what product we choose, which is where we are with GE. All of their models seem like cookie cutter responses in their laundry and dishwashers. Unfortunately, there's no innovation. Untill things change, I will keep venting until results are done. There are already enough complaints on these. And I REFUSE to take anything for granted.

 

[carolina128]

GE and Innovation

Interestingly, I’d actually make the argument that GE’s behind the most innovative release in (American) laundry in years: the all in one. A full size combo unit with a heat pump…I literally don’t think anyone had ever brought something like that to market before GE did. Everything was condenser based.

 

[Chetlaham]

Freedom

Jerome, thank you! The US constitution has been nullified for some time! The last semblance of freedom was in the early 2000s when you could walk into the Sears and buy true BOLs, true TOLs, classic no none sense top loads, plasticicky washers, DDs, all metal washers, realistic HE top loads, front loads, foreign, domestic and everything in between. There was choice, there was variety, there was diversity. The customer could choose whatever suited them best. Today, none at all.

 

 

 

Its not just the stagnation of innovation, but also de-evolving back in time with the complete evisceration of pragmatic utility, commonsensical engineering, level headed design, result based performance, function, practicality, acceptable job execution, and longevity. The discontinuation of perfected timeless classics for long failed 65 year old designs that were never even intended for modern adaptation.

 

All makes and models Whirlpool, LG, Samsung, Frigidaire, ect are based on cookie cutter analytics. All based on the same superannuated antediluvian designs, just frosted in different flavors.  

 

I feel your pain Jerome, it hurts when you as a dignified customer is coerced into being garbage a can.  This is why I no longer take anything for granted. You don't know what you have until its gone. I liken to to it being in a 75*F low-medium humidity room. You don't think about air, climate, heating or cooling until the temperatures deviates to either extreme. Only then do you realize what has truly gone missing.    

 

[william8]

Just stop!

The U.S. Constitution? This is getting ridiculous now. Which amendment gives us the right to appliance choice?

As far as Jerome losing the freedom to choose? He uses the appliances his apartment complex supplies. When did he ever have "freedom" to choose?

 

[gelaundry4ever]

real washer left

Unfortunately, the only real washer that's left is Speed Queen Laundry anymore. I wouldn't want that taken away from my cold dead hands. It's the only brand that embodies real American values especially when it comes to real American build quality and performance, let alone longevity. Nobody else will last in a commercial environment. Nobody! Not GE, Not Maytag. Nobody! I nor anybody else will take things for granted, especially down through the years of using quality machines. GE has started the trend in my opinion, then things went ugly from there. What a sad state of affairs!

 

[wayupnorth]

We all know, you have said this a million times already. PLEASE stop this rambling on and on nonsense, Jerome

 

[Chetlaham]

You may have the ability to buy a Speed Queen classic, however energy regulations have taken away descent water level control. Users must either gamble with under-filling on auto fill, or over filling on all but the largest loads when "deep fill" is selected. Not to mention energy regs have expanded the use of electronics. I 100% agree with you Jerome. 

 

[johnb300m]

LMAO OMG, when you think things can't get stupider.
I guess Civics education really is lacking.

The US Constitution and "freedom of appliance purchase choice" aren't even in the same universe.
Goods, meaning appliances here, are produced in a mostly free market, with some light government rules, based on local and federal limits to resource consumption, user safety, accessibility, etc.
(I can see the tomatoes thrown already)

That free market is not "free" for consumers, it's free for Capitalist corporations to build (or source) and sell what products THEY see fit, that the market might buy, to make money for THIER shareholders.
Us consumers (that term always makes me want to throw up) have the "free choice" to choose from whatever pool of products is offered, available by the companies in the market.
THAT'S IT.
You're only freedom is to choose what's there.
And if you don't like it, THEN, you have the freedom to buy old stuff 2nd hand, or create your own gosh darn appliance company.
I believe the Laundry Alternative is already doing that as we speak.

 

[Chetlaham]

You don't even know the pertinent facts being discussed.

 

 

Capitalist corporations can <span style="text-decoration: underline;">NOT</span> "build (or source) and sell what products THEY see fit"

 

 

There are clear penalties for doing otherwise.

 

 

https://www.energy.gov/sites/default/files/2022-04/GSL_EnforcementPolicy_4_25_22.pdf
 

 

 

 

I can <span style="text-decoration: underline;">NOT</span> "create your own gosh darn appliance company"

 

 

Doing otherwise leads to legal action. If I vehemently refused I'd end up on the news, forced to pay penalties, lose my business license, file for bankruptcy and possibly if I became defiant enough end up in prison.  

 

So no, there is no free market. What you have is the government over-reach only justified subverting both the intent and meaning of the constitution...

 

Government believes in there own rules so much they often exempt themselves from them.

 

[johnb300m]

You are not serious people.

 

[Chetlaham]

When the US was created and in the years going forward, many people thought the experiment wasn't anything serious.

 

When in reality freedom, dignity, and human rights created the wealthiest, most prosperous and most powerful nation on earth. 

 

The 9th amendment, 13th amendment, 14th amendment, 15 amendment, and 19th amendment assured these rights extended to everyone.

 

Yet in the last 60 years people have been demanding the very rights which gave them life be abolished. 

 

 

 

[combo52]

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And many more from this bot it’s all just pure AI. I don’t take anything posted by anonymous people seriously

There is no credibility whatsoever. Why would I believe anything that anonymous person says? Would I buy anything from him? Would I even bother giving advice? No

John