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Oh Joe,

 I love that Park Avenue Ultra, that was my favorite style FWD Buick, I loved the reverse opening hood.

I had always wanted the Park Avenue and last year almost had a midnight blue 1990 with 90k miles.

 

My first car was a 1990 LeSabre which other than ammenities and a few style differences was the same car.

Pictured is a stock photo but mine was that same color, medium red garnet, matching interior and those lovely locking wire hubcaps. I loved it, it had 186k trouble free miles on it when I sold it.

 

Oh and I do hope that is a nasty rumor about the Lucerne and DTS being discontinued, if true I better stockpiling now as I need and want a large car,

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With the passing of the 2011 Cadillac DTS, the wonderful "cornering" light will be forever gone. I think the Nissan Maxima is the only car that still has them - love those things!

Beautiful Park Ave Ultra! That champagne color was always great.
 
Yes - the DTS and Lucerne's are gone. Heard from a Buick dealer GM couldn't get the cars to meet the changing CAFE laws being enforced in 2012. Instead of revising the drive train they are going cancel the lines.

Here is the maroon Ultra I spied in the neighborhood a few weeks ago. A bit dirty, but was in pretty good shape considering the age and current owners. I'd take one of these or an '89 BLT (LeSabre T-Type).

Ben

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I always loved the electroluminescent lighting on the side as well of the Park Avenue. The Sixty Series Fleetwood had the Cadillac crest lit as well. Good times.
 
--I didn't think anyone OWNED a car, now-a-days!

Where I live, and for as long as I can remember, so many people are into Leasing!

You never know how cars will change, what features will be added (or deleted) or how a car is gonna improve! (or DIS-improve!)

Add to that the planned-obsolescence & predicted reliability, most "new" cars were notorious for--though, true, enough, that quality control in the past few years has improved!

I should know, in the sense, as I still have my Honda CiViC, 2003! (Which I'm still waiting for my dream-ride to trade it in for!)

And of course, a classic like those big-time Buick Electras (of which my grandma was a little old lady driving hers 'round the San Francisco Bay, before she retired from driving & sold it in 1984 (two-years before I was old enough to drive!)... All red, moonroof (causing the headliner & bar-shaped dome light w/ the two map lights to be just inches away from the top of your head), and plenty of other nice features, though only got to ride in it,--ONCE!--when she drove in it all the way up here!

Enjoy...

-- Dave
 
"Ah...quad ventiports...has to be a V8! "

Danmantn,


Back then, 3 or 4 ventiports on a Buick weren't related to the number of cylinders or engine sizes (but the Electra 225 still had a standard 455 V8 in 1975).

All 1975 LeSabres had V8 engines and 3 ventiports, Apollos and Skylarks also had 3 ventiports and most had V8 engines too. Some 1980 Electras and 1980-84 Park Avenues had 4 ventiports and V6 engines and the 1987 Regal GNX had 4 ventiports and a V6 engine.
 
I can never understand the point of leasing.  I guess if you are young and starting out it might make sense, but only my elderly aunt leases in my family.  My brother and his wife have the best plan IMO., they get one new car every 4 years.  He gets what he wants and pays for it over 4 years, then it's her turn.  They keep each vehicle for 8 years and always have a relatively new car.  My cousin has a 2000 Gran Prix with 257,000 miles and it's still going strong, he's planning on 300,000+ miles.  With regular maintenance most cars will last.  We've been a GM family for generations and never had more than minor issues, and I'm talking my large extended family.

 

Why should I pay constantly when after 4 or 5 years the car is mine and will last at least that long?  Leasing is just another "benefit" foisted on the public  to suck money out of their pocket.  instead of buying a decent used car that they can easily pay for and eventually trade up, people get stuck in never ending lease payments.

 

Rant over...
 
Add me to the list of people who don't like the idea of leasing. It's basically endless car payments, and you end up owning nothing except a drained checking account. It may be a good choice for some circumstances--or so I've heard--but it's not a good match for my needs, current or "likely future."

Actually, every car I've bought with NO exception was bought and paid for in cold, hard cash. At my budget level, this means used--actually "well used"--but car payments are something else I'd as soon avoid. The other advantages: insurance is cheaper, and licensing when I adopted this strategy years ago was much cheaper (license costs then in WA were based on vehicle value then). Repair rate is higher, a minus, but after a few years more is known about a given car--both its overall reliability, plus what typically goes wrong. (This long term real world experience will dictate whether I buy a US car company next time. I keep hearing how great various small cars have gotten. Is this true? Or is it another case of claims of improved quality that isn't delivered on? We'll know in five to ten years!)

The only case I could see having car payments is if I were buying a new or nearly new car that I'd hang onto until it fell apart in a pile of rust flakes on the driveway.
 
I am another one who will NEVER lease a car, I prefer to buy and keep it until its paid for if it was something I end up not liking or if its something I love keeping until it dies or when necessary repairs cost far more than the value of the car.

 

I buy used or certified used as I want full size luxury, buy I cant afford the payment on a $35-$50k car so I buy lease returns or things that are low mileage that were elderly owned. I will only have one payment at the time and then I'll have an older car that I can pay cash for, or in my current older car it was free because mother got a new car
 
A couple neat things about those last gen DTS'..... Instead of the turn signal activating the cornering lights, vehicle speed, ambient light and steering wheel rotation will call them on. Perfect for turning off surface streets into alleys and driveways where you wouldn't normally use a signal.

Also, when passing on the highway, a light tap of the turn signal stalk triggers three light flashes. Tap again when returning to your lane!
 
I had a Mercury in 1995 (first new car, third car I had & the two before it were hard to top) I bought & might have been best of leasing (a Cougar XR-7) or should have been brave enough to order more features like the moonroof & automatic climate control & even the premium sound!

I was in my 20's & somehow ordering a Cougar T-Bird, then, was NOT going to be like how those cars were in the '70's /'80's, w/ the way everyone was into SUV's & pick up trucks!

The 1990's were not a happy time (or to me prosperous!) but I don't want to ramble on w/ personal fodder, more fit for posting in AS THE TUB TURNS...

Well, I should leave you in my post with what a neat car the Buick LaCrosse is... It is the closest to an "Old School Buick" that there has been in a long time...!

Enjoy it in the best of health!

-- Dave
 
Well, it's official--back in a Buick today! I never thought that would happen. I keep trying to find excuses to go drive it. I'm loving it so far! I'd forgotten how nice a drive can be.
 
I can't believe that Buick canceled the Lucerne, wit hall the hype when they release it, what three years ago? It was supposed to be the end all to be all.

My BMW X5 was the last car we bought new. We tend to keep our cars until 200K or till they fall apart. Properly maintained, most cars can make it to 200K. So next time we will buy a car that's one year old. That seems to cut about $10K from the price. Leasing or "pay for what you use" isn't our style, either.

Not that I am interested, but I seem to see quite a number of the BMW Mini on the used car lots. Did people buy these things for their "cuteness" and when that wore off just bought something different?
 
Where leases make sense is if you drive very few miles per year, many times leases are for as little as 10,000 per year;  and WANT a new car every few years. 

 

 If you lease you are able to get into  more car than you can afford (but usually the lease payment isn't that much lower than a payment) , and rent it paying all the taxes, insurance, licensing fee, and absorb all the depreciation.   

 

A few years ago Ford had a lease program called 12 years and you're out.  You basically lock in for 12 years, you get a new car ever two years with the same lease payment.  At the end of the lease you keep the last car.  What Ford was banking on is that you would be a return customer for six cars, and hopefully you would want to "trade up" in which case they would renegotiate the contract and start you all over again. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
The new Lacrosse does look very nice. It even got my attention and i havnt looked at a Buick for many years. 39yo here btw. I have had my share of new and used cars thru the years. Some have been good and others not so good. I have had something from almost every brand. Some brands people say are sooo good have turned out to be umong the worst i have ever owned. Toyota tops the list of cars i will never buy again. I have had problems with every one of them. My GM's have been hit and miss but, after having 5 Cadilliacs there must be a reason why i kept going back. Of the 5 i only had major problems with 1 of them.

Being 6'3" there are not many vehicles that i can fit in very comfortably, and find that domestic vehicles seem to be better or have more choices for us bigger people.

Im currently doing a 2010 Taurus SHO. Her name is Anna Pearl.

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I just test drove today my second 2010 Lacrosse

A 2010 White Diamond CXS with the Nav and the touring package.  I did it just to get the feel of how one that is broken in feels.  This one had 22k miles on it and is configured exactly the way the one I want is.  It's out of my reach but I must say it is the best put together most comfortable and smooth car I have ever driven.  It feels like it should cost significantly more than it does.  Quite sincerely doing 60 in this car felt like 35.  I can't wait until I can afford to get one!
 

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