The New SQ TL Washers

[Chetlaham]

And ohhh

Lets not forget the Speed Queen has kept the best parts like the suspension and metal outer tub. I think this shows they truly care despite being forced between a rock and a hard place.

 

[maytag85]

If the EPA/Department of energy were to be shut down, I could care less. We would be better off without the EPA/Department of energy regulations anyway. I said this already, but Speed Queen should have ignored the mandates by the EPA/Department of energy, and they should have continued to built traditional top load washing machines.

 

[agiflow2]

True chetlaham, they could have went to plastic outer tubs. I never had a problem with plastic for the outer tub in the machines I had that had them though. At least they could never rust.

In this case though I am glad they kept the metal outer tub. One thing I noticed about my current speed queen that I got after the Bravos X was how quickly the speed queen filled with water. No wonder its called a Speed Queen. I just did a small load of whites before in just over half an hour with 2nd rinse engaged.

I do love that aspect of the machine and the wash action. That agitator is anything but anemic.

 

[cfz2882]

agitub

might have some ribs stamped into the tub for the "scrubbing action"that Westinghouse and franklin built brands bragged about with the indexing tubs Might have good wash action with the moving tub if the inverter driven motor has enough torque for fast acceleration and strong water movement.Electricity use will be reduced considerably VS the across the line induction motor.Good they kept the porcelain outer tub.Should be very reliable and low maintenance IF the electronics are reliable(my 2010 VMW Cabrio had board problems caused by junk Chinese capacitors going sour)

 

[maytag85]

This is how I feel about the new Speed Queen design X1,000,000:

 

[norgeway]

This is not the place...

But I will say it anyway, All these regulations are ,one- the reason we cant compete with China etc, and two= This and other governmental over reaches are the very reason Trump got elected, lots of people thought he would fix everything...Well,

 

[norgeway]

This is NOT

To start a political rant, just to state some of the things I have heard , I know the majority of people on here are, as I am, Democrats, but lots of older people and people who have seen our manufacturing evaporate because of the epa and other governmental over reaching,did vote for Trump thinking he would be able to do away with the epa and lots of other regulations, mainly what I want to say without angering my Democratic OR Republican friends is..this stuff has been building for a long time and many many people saw Trump as a fixer of all things...What will happen is anyones guess, To be truthfull, I'm not impressed with ANY of our elected officials Just for the record, not that its anyones business, but I don't care to tell it, I have voted straight Democratic since Bush, simply on the gay rights issue..If I vote a straight ticket over that, then think how people out of work could vote the other way.....

 

[infusor]

SMH

Alot of adults being very inmature, this is not the place for politics, can we start talking about how this is an interesting design again? Like we really need another machine with a "wash plate" i applaud speed queen for thinking outside of the box, you know everybody hated the calypsos and those were actually great machines! As far as the epa, we don't need clean air and water right???? Who cares about pollution..... trump thinks we don't

 

[johnb300m]

WOW.
WOW.
Get a grip people.

Oh. And do none of you remember life before the EPA in the 70s, started by Nixon.
Rivers burned.
The air was arrestingly putrid on certain days in the mid 80s on the south side of Chicago. I was SIX, and I remember the air hurting.
We had a few water boil orders when I was a kid.
Near CHICAGO.

If all of you want the EPA abolished, ok, you got your pal Pruitt.

And if you think we aren't as competitive as China? Well you're right.
We get paid more. We can breathe our own air. Drink our own water (most of us at least).
Actually see our skylines again.
We're not ravaged with weird cancers and birth defects.
I'll take the US over China, our environment and our efficient machines.

I'm a bit blindsided by all the meltdowns on here. The abrupt lack of faith in the engineering prowess of your favorite company in the face of a little engineering challenge.

 

[norgeway]

One difference

In the 60s and 70s..WE MADE EVERYTHING, and MADE IT WELL, good quality textiles, etc..ITS ALL GONE!

 

[norgeway]

I DID

Erase my above comments because I decided they didn't belong here.I HOPE the Speed Queen design works, I personally will not own anything with circuit boards and touch controls, just my preference,..I am VERY biased, I really don't like anything newer than the 70s, So my opinions are odd to people who never grew up with good American built stuff.

 

[agiflow2]

I'm old enough to remember when American made meant something. In my 50 years of life I remember when we had more than three companies making all the white goods we have now. A time when Whirlpool built real washing machines with heavy cast metal control panels and Frigidaire was a GM company.

It all seemed like it would never change. Funny how you think that things will always stay the same and then when it is gone you then really realize what you had.

If SQ can pull this off and make a good top loader I say more power to them! I will gladly continue to purchase their washers and dryers. Change can be very difficult.

Johnb300m you are a young guy and you have to understand there are people who have been around long enough to see the difference in the appliance industry today.

I certainly don't want to be a pessimist and poo poo everything that comes down the pike but the flimsy appliances of today were built much better in the 70s and and even the 80s. Many of us here remember that.

 

[maytag85]

How are the flimsy appliances of today better than the appliances of the 70's and 80's?

Really?

Appliances back then were built better, and were built to stand the test of time!

That is one of the dumbest things I ever heard! Everything from houses, to cars, and appliances were built to last!

The appliances that are around currently will not be around in 20 years, and will most likely be in the scrap yard.

A lot of the cars that are made currently will be in the junkyard in 20 years.

I can go on and on, but anything that is vintage is WAY better than most of the junk that is made today!

 

[maytag85]

Our American freedom has been taken away!!!

The EPA/Department of energy has taken our American freedom away from letting us have washing machines that actually work. This makes me angry into infinity!

 

[norgeway]

Time will tell guys

Time will tell, I remember in 86 a friend who worked at Sears bought one of the last belt drive TOL washers they got in, As far as I know the new belt drive has never been hooked up because his old one that was only about 5 years old then is still running,As for Whirlpool direct drives, Some folks think they are great, I think they are darn near the worst washer ever built...but my opinion doesent count for much, so I already am biased against the new SQ...just for the simple reason its new, and if I had my way, Unimatics and slant front Westinghouses would still be made!

 

[norgeway]

And

Solid tub Speed Queens with solenoids and 20 pound Norges...Need I say more!

 

[frigilux]

Sean--The only reason a few appliances and cars from the '70s and early '80s are still around is because of enthusiasts and collectors. Their natural lifespans were over many years ago. The vast majority of durable goods from those days have been in landfills a long, long time. The notion that all appliances lasted 20+ years back in the day is false.

On the EPA: Before you get too hysterical about energy mandates for washing machines and the trampling of your American freedom, watch some videos about the air and water quality problems in places like China and India. Am I happy about the lukewarm, dumbed-down water temps in many new washers? No. But there's no reason for a wholesale condemnation of the EPA. The quality of life and health we enjoy in far more important areas trumps the irritation about cool water and long cycle times in washers and dishwashers.

 

[askolover]

Although I don't have a dog in this race I will be curious to see how this pans out.  I will only have a front-loader, will probably always have a European model, and it will more than likely be another Miele since Asko's are quite questionable in quality now.  I don't know if a SQ would fit in my closet like smaller European machines do.

 

[combo52]

The New SQ TL Washers

A few more points about these interesting new washers.

 

There was a picture of the tub and agitator posed a few weeks ago in another thread, I don't have a picture.

 

Back to the wash action, the SS wash basket is not ribbed.

 

The top spin speed is now 820 RPM

 

Only the Normal cycle has dubbed down wash water temperatures, other cycles still fill with all hot or warm water as selected, the normal cycle does an extended spray rinse instead of a deep rinse, the other cycles do a deep rinse.

 

You can chose from 3 water levels or use an auto setting where the machine determines needed water level bu motor loading.

 

The new cycle time has been extended to about 45 minutes in an attempt to get things clean with less agitation. My concern is if it had been this easy to build a TL washer without a transmission it would have been done 60 years ago. We will have to see how well it works, we have already ordered one but may not see it till around February. I will report on it soon after we get it.

 

This forum is not the place for politics, but that said I AM AN ENVIRONMENTAL VOTER AS ARE THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS, THE GOVERNMENT HAS THE RIGHT TO REGULATE ENERGY USAGE AND I HAVE VOTED TO GIVE THEM THIS POWER.

 

SO GET USED TO IT, EVEN trump can't change this.

 

John L.

 

 

 

 

[helicaldrive]

Who knows

If the tub turns 2 1/2 revolutions and then stops, that will cause a pretty strong wall of water to swirl around the tub. If the agitator has the large side fins shown in Malcomb’s photo, the clothes will stay relatively stationary, and the water might actually flush through the clothes more effectively than in a traditional top loader. It’ll be interesting to see. I’d predict that both under and over loading would be fatal for effective wash action with this design. A bouncing Apex tub or bottom plate like the Calypso would seem to be far more effective and with less water, but there has to be a reason why the Calypso and Apex bouncing tub were short lived.