Opps...
... my mistake. The NiagaraWash is called Deep Wash on the Kenmore models.
... my mistake. The NiagaraWash is called Deep Wash on the Kenmore models.
The Right Clothes Washer
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Another opinion to add to the confusion
Hey Will, do not get hung up on the size / capacity rating! 3.9, 4.5, 5.2 cu ft..... while yes there is some truth to it, those are all marketing tools to lure buyers in, "Oh, the 4.5 is MUCH bigger/better than the 4.0!" That is B.S. and I seriously doubt you ever will notice the difference in every day use.
PLUS, if you don't already have the matching "monster size dryer" for that 5.2 cu ft washer, you will be overloading it with those uber-size loads, taking longer to dry.
About 4 years ago I bought a Kenmore Elite He5T front load washer. While shopping there were two washers side by side which looked exactly the same on the outside, however one was rated as 4.0 cu ft and the other 4.4 cu ft. I open the door and inside the looked nearly identical too. I went as far as taking a tape and measuring the interior dimensions and guess what? They were <span style="text-decoration: underline;">exactly</span> the same! The only difference in the "capacity" was due to the baffles, or paddles inside that make the clothes tumble. The baffles on the "larger" 4.4 cu ft machine where smaller (shorter) than the "smaller" 4.0 cu ft machine and that was the ONLY difference.
Any of the machines you listed (with links) use the same concept as the crappy Oasis, a wash plate on the bottom that "rubs the clothes" clean. Personally I don't like that type of washer because I'm not convinced they do that great of a job without causing premature ware on your clothes, IMHO.
I agree with others who suggest a regular top load / agitator washer. AND... I love the idea of cashing in the gift card so you can buy something elsewhere!
Personally I would stay away from any GE TL washer, solely based on their washers from the late 90's being total POS.
If there is any way to cash in that card and buy a Speed Queen, I say do it! Yes the "capacity" is less than those uber capacity TL wash-plate machines, but here are my reasons:
1. Speed Queens are built like a proverbial tank.
2. The cycle time is much faster, approx. 35 minutes start to finish, versus 1 hour+ for the "wash plate" machines.
3. It will clean better (like your dad's 90's Maytag) than any "wash plate" machine, WHILE being gentler on your clothes (IMHO).
4. As others have mentioned, the controls on a Speed Queen are simple, easy to understand and easy to operate.
So find a way to cash out that gift card and go buy the Speed Queen, you will NOT regret it!
I hope all this helps!
Kevin
Hey Will, do not get hung up on the size / capacity rating! 3.9, 4.5, 5.2 cu ft..... while yes there is some truth to it, those are all marketing tools to lure buyers in, "Oh, the 4.5 is MUCH bigger/better than the 4.0!" That is B.S. and I seriously doubt you ever will notice the difference in every day use.
PLUS, if you don't already have the matching "monster size dryer" for that 5.2 cu ft washer, you will be overloading it with those uber-size loads, taking longer to dry.
About 4 years ago I bought a Kenmore Elite He5T front load washer. While shopping there were two washers side by side which looked exactly the same on the outside, however one was rated as 4.0 cu ft and the other 4.4 cu ft. I open the door and inside the looked nearly identical too. I went as far as taking a tape and measuring the interior dimensions and guess what? They were <span style="text-decoration: underline;">exactly</span> the same! The only difference in the "capacity" was due to the baffles, or paddles inside that make the clothes tumble. The baffles on the "larger" 4.4 cu ft machine where smaller (shorter) than the "smaller" 4.0 cu ft machine and that was the ONLY difference.
Any of the machines you listed (with links) use the same concept as the crappy Oasis, a wash plate on the bottom that "rubs the clothes" clean. Personally I don't like that type of washer because I'm not convinced they do that great of a job without causing premature ware on your clothes, IMHO.
I agree with others who suggest a regular top load / agitator washer. AND... I love the idea of cashing in the gift card so you can buy something elsewhere!
Personally I would stay away from any GE TL washer, solely based on their washers from the late 90's being total POS.
If there is any way to cash in that card and buy a Speed Queen, I say do it! Yes the "capacity" is less than those uber capacity TL wash-plate machines, but here are my reasons:
1. Speed Queens are built like a proverbial tank.
2. The cycle time is much faster, approx. 35 minutes start to finish, versus 1 hour+ for the "wash plate" machines.
3. It will clean better (like your dad's 90's Maytag) than any "wash plate" machine, WHILE being gentler on your clothes (IMHO).
4. As others have mentioned, the controls on a Speed Queen are simple, easy to understand and easy to operate.
So find a way to cash out that gift card and go buy the Speed Queen, you will NOT regret it!
I hope all this helps!
Kevin
mrb627
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I doubt...
... the problem is the washplate it self. The problem is the (most times) ultro low water level and dumbed down temps. You can use a washplate and still get good rollover/ cleaning performance if you at least cover the load in water and have good hot water (100°-105°F for warm, 120-140 for hot). Combine this reduced water level (see LG/F&P) with some spray rinsing, and you can save energy, water and get great results as long as you and the manufacturer know how.
... the problem is the washplate it self. The problem is the (most times) ultro low water level and dumbed down temps. You can use a washplate and still get good rollover/ cleaning performance if you at least cover the load in water and have good hot water (100°-105°F for warm, 120-140 for hot). Combine this reduced water level (see LG/F&P) with some spray rinsing, and you can save energy, water and get great results as long as you and the manufacturer know how.
"2. The cycle time is much faster, approx. 35 minutes start to finish, versus 1 hour+ for the "wash plate" machines."
Not to pick knits but the longest wash cycle is ~28 minutes on the SQ, 5 minutes shorter if flow restriction has been removed from the hot water inlet valve (fill times are ~30% faster).
Not to pick knits but the longest wash cycle is ~28 minutes on the SQ, 5 minutes shorter if flow restriction has been removed from the hot water inlet valve (fill times are ~30% faster).
warmsecondrinse
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I agree with Henene4...
... in theory. However, it seems to me that all washplate washers (at least in the U.S.) use ultra low water levels AND dumbed down temps.
Have I missed a thread on this topic? Is there a way to save the non-washing washers from an early trip to the recycler?
Jim
... in theory. However, it seems to me that all washplate washers (at least in the U.S.) use ultra low water levels AND dumbed down temps.
Have I missed a thread on this topic? Is there a way to save the non-washing washers from an early trip to the recycler?
Jim
laundromat
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If I HAD TO have a top loading washer, it would be an L.G. Wave Force model. Consumer Reports rates them #1 in top loading, HE washers and their tu and impeller are all stainless steel, not polypropeline. like Cabrios AND Samsung. Zippers and other metal parts in clothing.sxratch the plastic leaving sharp eges that tare the fabrics damaging clothes. Front,loading, LGs are IMOHO the absolute best washers made in decades.Ten year manufaxcturers warranty on the motor, two year waranty on the electronics and lifetime on the stainless steel inner tub.
Depends...
... I suppose that messing around with cycles an options and on some models adjusting water levels could actually help. Things like always using heavy duty, selecting higher temperarures, may do more smaller, thus better sorted loads, flow restrictor trashing or as simple things as trying to disconect the ATC Sensor.
But what I'm about say is that good old style washing may suit you habbits, but is it good? I mean, wasting 13 out of 16 galloms each fill just to have your clothes washed if there are ways to save? I mean, just look at a cycle in an LG or F&P: They usw roughly half the water of an SQ. And I can still see the load turning over. Now select Hevy Duty, you will get a warm wash. If you select hot, you get something at least kind of hot. And if you now have been that smart and got one with infernal heater, you have the sureness of reaching youre desired temp. You just have to adapt! As my economy teacher always says "Adapt or die! The stronger and smarter ones will win!"
... I suppose that messing around with cycles an options and on some models adjusting water levels could actually help. Things like always using heavy duty, selecting higher temperarures, may do more smaller, thus better sorted loads, flow restrictor trashing or as simple things as trying to disconect the ATC Sensor.
But what I'm about say is that good old style washing may suit you habbits, but is it good? I mean, wasting 13 out of 16 galloms each fill just to have your clothes washed if there are ways to save? I mean, just look at a cycle in an LG or F&P: They usw roughly half the water of an SQ. And I can still see the load turning over. Now select Hevy Duty, you will get a warm wash. If you select hot, you get something at least kind of hot. And if you now have been that smart and got one with infernal heater, you have the sureness of reaching youre desired temp. You just have to adapt! As my economy teacher always says "Adapt or die! The stronger and smarter ones will win!"
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