The Speed Queen TR series was Redesigned/Reprogrammed?

[maytagneptune]

Watching different videos between Eugene/Lorain Furniture and Kirk Rivas. I can tell that Eugene's was a early production that still had problems that needed to be worked out. Kirk's was a redesigned 2019 TR7. Heavy duty cycle with the towels. On Auto fill seemed to make it a halfway decent machine. I personally think the TC5 is better than the TR but I would much rather have the TR7 over a Whirlpool/Maytag HE with an "Agifaker" or a flat "low profile" Washplate/Impeller that does nothing at all. I think my Aquasmart is better than the TR but I feel like the next time I see a TR in the scrap yard on it's way to the shredder. I feel like taking it and repairing it to see if it is really worth the hate. Jeans pretty much fail in all of my machines but the Kenmore Direct drive. The World Washer, Calypso and Intuitive do a good job. the Aquasmart did just OK on jeans. There was no soap stains but I switched the Aquasmart from the jeans lifecycle to the Heavy cycle with HE off and it did better. About as good as the Intuitive. Neppy TL did decent too. The TR is not very good at stiff items and a maytag HE will fail miserably. The GE "Commercial" GTW525ACPWB and The Maytag "Commercial" MVWP575GW/MVWP576KW preform good but they have plastic parts that fail. Any LG except the Agitator one is decent but they also have plastic gearboxes. Don't even think about their front load washers anymore. I ranted and added more detail at thread number 85713. Between the TR7 and MVW6230HW. I'd Rather have the TR7. the TR7 is a bit better and will last longer. Although the TC5 is the best modern machine hands down.

 

[keith]

How are TR’s at the shredder

You’ve said that before (I believe it was you), and assuming you’re actually seeing them there, how? they have a 5 year warranty and haven’t been out that long?? Insurance jobs (lightning strikes or fire)?

I have a TR5 and love it. Everyone on here that actually has used one or owns one loves it. Seems the only ones saying they’re terrible have only seen videos, so I just discredit their opinion cause it’s based on nothing. I’m a mechanic, my wife is a hairdresser and my daughter works on a farm. We killed an LG front loader in 7 months and we’re bought back out of it. If you can nab a TR and you use it even if you hate it you can redeem it for some money (especially now with the shortages).

Best of luck!
Keith

 

[DADoES]

 
AquaSmart Jeans cycle is delicate agitation and cold water for special-care treatment ... not suitable for heavy-work clothing such as mechanics, ranching, lawncare.

 

[suedenim]

Speed Queen TR7

I had a TR7 in my house for 1 week. It came out of the box with a broken pump. The store said it had to be exchanged for a different make and model because of production shortages. The store's actions were beyond shady so I returned the unit and the dryer that was on order. I do feel a little burned with SQ (and Nebraska Furniture Mart), but I also know things like this happen and it shouldn't really hurt the overall performance of the brand (SQ).

The one thing I really liked about the TR7 was the delay start and 24-hour soak and plenty of cycles. And the interface looked good and was easy to understand. Even though it never ran for me, I'm pretty sure it was quiet as the cabinet was so sturdy.

 

[frigilux]

According to the testing organization we love to hate, the cleaning performance of the TR line has improved significantly since its introduction in 2018.

I put it down to increased wash time. The cycle time (Normal cycle; heaviest soil setting) of the first iteration was about 50 minutes. Cleaning performance was rated Poor. Three years later, the same cycle is 70 minutes in length, the extra minutes going to the wash agitation portion of the cycle. Cleaning performance is now rated Very Good.

In their latest ratings, the TC5 bests the TR7’s score by two points: 62 overall for the TR7; 64 for the TC5. While both receive ratings of Very Good for cleaning performance, there’s a 20-point spread within that designation, so one assumes the TC5 lands a little higher within the Very Good rating. Also important to note that the TC5’s cycle time has increased from about 35 minutes to 55–again, the additional time going to wash agitation.

By comparison, the new LG agitator TL model scores an overall 74. Note that all top-loaders are tested with an 8-lb. load, not a maximum-capacity load.[this post was last edited: 10/11/2021-20:26]

 

[keith]

TR cycle times

My TR5 takes a little under 40 minutes on heavy duty, full fill, no extra rinse.

 

[combo52]

Reply #4

Hi Eugene, Good information, yes you can soak things clean eventually especially if you don't load heavily and while 8 pound loads are probably close to what many people wash in a real load the 70 minute cycle and 8# load don't cut it for me enough to recommend the TR machines.

 

When we have tried loads of 10 pairs of work jeans in the TR machines they just don't get evenly cleaned like they do in a super capacity DD or in my SQ FL washer or about any other washer for that matter.

 

We do have a lot of TR machines out there and only get complaints from a low% of the customers with them, we even put two in commercial use along side the regular SQ machines to see how they hold up.

 

John L.

 

[keith]

Load time

Where is this 70 minute load time coming from? I’ve never had mine take more than 40 Am I missing something?

 

[combo52]

Hi Keith, The TR takes 70 minutes on the cycle CRs uses in their tests.

 

John L.

 

[frigilux]

John- For, oh, maybe 7 years or so, CR tested each machine with both an 8-lb load and a maximum capacity load, then sort of averaged the two scores together to come up with the rating for cleaning performance. I thought this was great, although I'd have preferred to see both scores separately. Then you can tell which machines can actually thoroughly clean a max capacity load. Any washer should be able to clean an 8-lb load without breaking a sweat.

However, as is their tendency, they changed back to testing only an 8-lb load a year or two ago. I'm confident the cleaning score would have dropped a bit for both the Speed Queen TR and the current favorite, the new LG with an agitator, had they also tested them with a maximum capacity load.

While most of my loads don't exceed 8-lbs--the exception being bath towels, which is always a BobLoad--people with families may be more interested in how a washer cleans a really big load, since they probably eye some of these 5-cu. ft. tub behemoths with the prospect of filling them to capacity.

Keith-- As mentioned above, SQ tests all washers using the Normal cycle at the heaviest soil setting. Many who own Speed Queens never use the Normal cycle because it provides a spray rinse rather than a traditional deep rinse. Also, I think it's been within the last 10 months or so that the maximum wash time on the Normal cycles of both the TC and TR lines has increased significantly. If your TR is a year or more old, it probably has a shorter Normal cycle/maximum soil wash time. It seems counterintuitive that the wash time of a cycle labeled Normal is much longer than on a cycle labeled Heavy Duty, but that's how it is. Even on my 2017 SQ TL, both the Normal and Whites cycles have a maximum wash time that's a couple of minutes longer than the Heavy Duty cycle.

In the meantime, my 9-Series washer and dryer are doing well. This is the first time I've ever planned to keep a washer & dryer for their full natural lifespan. We'll see if they outlive me, lol.

 

[keith]

Thanks for the explanation Eugene. I never use Normal, so that explains why the CR lists such a long cycle. Heavy duty is all I use and it’s a nice quick cycle that washes very well.

 

[blockeight88]

I'm really confused as to why anyone would choose the TR series over the TC5?

 

[maytagneptune]

Reply #11

I agree. I think the TC5 is better but the TR was tweaked and messed with so much it's almost there. It will never be 5% better than the TC5.

 

[keith]

TR vs TC

When I bought my TR the TC was not a thing yet. However the TR does have several advantages over the TC which is why I would buy it again now that the TC is available.

Full controll over water level (3 levels) on any cycle (TC has no water level controll except “deep fill”)
Auto fill option
No transmission and associated seals and (now electronic transmission controller) to fail
No tub brake to squeak and wear (it has a lid lock, which really isn’t a big deal to me, I’d take that over mechanical complexity of the braking system)
Whisper quiet during wash, you only hear the water moving, no motor noise at all
Whisper quiet during spin/ faster spin speed than the TC
Bigger motor
No belt tensioner system I’ve seen quite a few people having issues with on their TC’s on here.
40 minute cycle time
Washes as well as any washer I’ve ever owned, (somewhere on a thread I’ve listed out all the top and front load washers I’ve had) and costs less than the TC to boot!

Keith

 

[gelaundry4ever]

best results

For best results, I'd use the heavy-duty cycle, especially when using fabric softener.

 

[keith]

Heavy Duty

+1 on that. Heavy Duty is all I really ever use. In certain situations delicate or spin only....I have never even tired Normal cycle.

FYI: I generally don't use extra rinse either, never had a need even with a family of skin sensitivities. Yet somehow people on here who have never used one think it doesn't rinse well **shrug**. My last 2 front loaders needed extra rinse or i'd get complaints from the family about itching.