vacerator
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True about Poland
and the Ukrane. The Soviets rebuilt post war Warsaw, if you can call it rebuilding.
and the Ukrane. The Soviets rebuilt post war Warsaw, if you can call it rebuilding.
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warmsecondrinse
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What? You don't like Stalin Gothic????
Lol.
Lol.
michaelman2
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Now back to our regularly scheduled program"
I think the episode entitled "The Burnout", aired Winter of 1976 was one of the most memorable episodes for me. A fire is started either by a space heater or a pipe being smoked......I was about 12 or 13 years of age and I could not stand the fact that the home was virtually gone. Ahhhhh, television in those days....
Also this is an even better version of the intro and opening credits/theme Begins at 00:27
I think the episode entitled "The Burnout", aired Winter of 1976 was one of the most memorable episodes for me. A fire is started either by a space heater or a pipe being smoked......I was about 12 or 13 years of age and I could not stand the fact that the home was virtually gone. Ahhhhh, television in those days....
Also this is an even better version of the intro and opening credits/theme Begins at 00:27
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lordkenmore
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This might be of interest to fans of THE WALTONS:
http://delsjourney.com/close-ups/us/waltons/waltons_home.htm
There is more than just this page--there is a table of contents of other pages on this site lower down on the page.
http://delsjourney.com/close-ups/us/waltons/waltons_home.htm
There is more than just this page--there is a table of contents of other pages on this site lower down on the page.
vacerator
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No Jim,
Stalin was also a murderer second only to Hitler. I'm also not a fan of LeCourbisuers brutalist architecture, nor commie blocks.
Stalin was also a murderer second only to Hitler. I'm also not a fan of LeCourbisuers brutalist architecture, nor commie blocks.
I’m not here to defend Communism, because it was a disaster of epic proportions in every country that tried it. However, I will speak out a bit on behalf of the people of the 1930s who were living through a period when capitalism had utterly failed, and when many, many people were looking around desperately for alternatives. In the early ’30s, one solution appeared to be Communism. It was attractive economically, but it was also attractive for its rejection of social stratification and racial inequality. For that last reason, almost all black intellectuals of the time embraced Communism. Considering the times, I don’t blame them.
Of course, we all know today that the talk of economic and racial equality was a lie like no other, and all the talk of success in Communist countries was pure propaganda. Starvation, genocide, gulags—that’s the Communist reality. It’s all very easy to see today, but not so much in the 1930s.
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Of course, we all know today that the talk of economic and racial equality was a lie like no other, and all the talk of success in Communist countries was pure propaganda. Starvation, genocide, gulags—that’s the Communist reality. It’s all very easy to see today, but not so much in the 1930s.
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Back to the Waltons ...
There is a Walton’s Mountain Museum in Schuyler, Virginia. I have never been there, even though I lived fairly close to it for years. As I understand it, the Museum focuses on the TV show; I’m not sure how much they delve into the reality of life in Schuyler, which is where Earl Hamner grew up. He based his book Spencer’s Mountain on stories from his life.
When I was a kid, I was absolutely the only child I know who liked the show. I found it fascinating, because I felt like I was watching a movie version of Grandmother’s life. She was one of seven siblings, and her mother died young, so she grew up in a great big clapboard house with with a whole bunch of kids, just like the Waltons.
She got married in the 1930s, but she stayed behind in the old homeplace with her widowed father, my great-grandfather. She would have been younger than ‘Olivia’ at the time, and she only had two children! But otherwise, a lot about the story was familiar to her. With her husband (my grandfather), there were five people in the house, and running the place was all on her shoulders.
In the TV show, the Waltons are supposed to be some version of poor; but they are actually somewhat well-off, in the country sense of the word. I suppose my Grandmother’s family was somewhat better off, though not rich by any means. They were the first to have a car, the first to have indoor plumbing, the first to have electric appliances. In the early part of the century, they sent out the laundry; but that wasn’t necessary once electric laundry equipment came in. In the 1950s, they installed a giant commercial freezer in the well-house, and it was still there when we sold the house in the 1990s. The Waltons had a lot of that, too, just perhaps on a smaller scale.
Race relations are another interesting aspect of the show. People outside of the central Appalachians don’t seem to realize that slavery was not widespread in the area and black people were few and far between. This changed with railroads, mines, and other industrialization between 1890 and 1920, when there was a large influx of non-white people, including a very large number of Syrians. There were a lot of racial problems in that period, including lynchings. After 1920, though, most of those populations left for the industrial jobs of the north, and non-white populations in the Appalachians almost vanished.
By the 1930s and after, it was not surprising to encounter more of a live-and-let-live attitude about racial matters, if for no other reason than that there was almost no one around to hate. Several very good friends of my grandmother and her sister were black or Syrian. My aunt dated one of the Syrian kids when she was in high school in the 1950s. When the black and white Methodist churches in our area integrated in the late ’50s, there were no objections, and the older people I knew remembered the event very positively. All my life, that’s the way it’s been.
Another thing about the show that fascinated me was the way the events of the Depression and the developing horror in Europe were described through the radio reports. Year by year, the Depression lessened and the European situation worsened. The way the family reacted to the events was fascinating to me as a child, because I knew how it ended, but they didn’t.
I also loved the Baldwin sisters. They reminded me of a few neighbors and cousins of mine!! And I was one of the few kids who had tasted a local version of The Recipe!!
I didn’t mean to write to so much, but this thread brought back a lot of memories.
There is a Walton’s Mountain Museum in Schuyler, Virginia. I have never been there, even though I lived fairly close to it for years. As I understand it, the Museum focuses on the TV show; I’m not sure how much they delve into the reality of life in Schuyler, which is where Earl Hamner grew up. He based his book Spencer’s Mountain on stories from his life.
When I was a kid, I was absolutely the only child I know who liked the show. I found it fascinating, because I felt like I was watching a movie version of Grandmother’s life. She was one of seven siblings, and her mother died young, so she grew up in a great big clapboard house with with a whole bunch of kids, just like the Waltons.
She got married in the 1930s, but she stayed behind in the old homeplace with her widowed father, my great-grandfather. She would have been younger than ‘Olivia’ at the time, and she only had two children! But otherwise, a lot about the story was familiar to her. With her husband (my grandfather), there were five people in the house, and running the place was all on her shoulders.
In the TV show, the Waltons are supposed to be some version of poor; but they are actually somewhat well-off, in the country sense of the word. I suppose my Grandmother’s family was somewhat better off, though not rich by any means. They were the first to have a car, the first to have indoor plumbing, the first to have electric appliances. In the early part of the century, they sent out the laundry; but that wasn’t necessary once electric laundry equipment came in. In the 1950s, they installed a giant commercial freezer in the well-house, and it was still there when we sold the house in the 1990s. The Waltons had a lot of that, too, just perhaps on a smaller scale.
Race relations are another interesting aspect of the show. People outside of the central Appalachians don’t seem to realize that slavery was not widespread in the area and black people were few and far between. This changed with railroads, mines, and other industrialization between 1890 and 1920, when there was a large influx of non-white people, including a very large number of Syrians. There were a lot of racial problems in that period, including lynchings. After 1920, though, most of those populations left for the industrial jobs of the north, and non-white populations in the Appalachians almost vanished.
By the 1930s and after, it was not surprising to encounter more of a live-and-let-live attitude about racial matters, if for no other reason than that there was almost no one around to hate. Several very good friends of my grandmother and her sister were black or Syrian. My aunt dated one of the Syrian kids when she was in high school in the 1950s. When the black and white Methodist churches in our area integrated in the late ’50s, there were no objections, and the older people I knew remembered the event very positively. All my life, that’s the way it’s been.
Another thing about the show that fascinated me was the way the events of the Depression and the developing horror in Europe were described through the radio reports. Year by year, the Depression lessened and the European situation worsened. The way the family reacted to the events was fascinating to me as a child, because I knew how it ended, but they didn’t.
I also loved the Baldwin sisters. They reminded me of a few neighbors and cousins of mine!! And I was one of the few kids who had tasted a local version of The Recipe!!
I didn’t mean to write to so much, but this thread brought back a lot of memories.
vacerator
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Oh, the Baldwin sisters;
Of course! Their special recipe. Was prohibition still on?
They were considering another church organist besides grandma Walton, and she threatened to turn Methodist.
So much history wrapped up into the Walton's series.
In 1938, my own grand dad who suffered from pain and PTSD from WW1 exposure to mustard gas and shrapnel made his own whiskey also. They had no town doctor, except the coal mine medic. Of course, PTSD was not known then. Whiskey was his analgesic.
He made some for the coal miners picnic that year, and got caught, and he was jailed for 60 days. Big headlines!
He asked the sheriff not to prosecute his friends, or the local priest who were all there drinking also.
Of course! Their special recipe. Was prohibition still on?
They were considering another church organist besides grandma Walton, and she threatened to turn Methodist.
So much history wrapped up into the Walton's series.
In 1938, my own grand dad who suffered from pain and PTSD from WW1 exposure to mustard gas and shrapnel made his own whiskey also. They had no town doctor, except the coal mine medic. Of course, PTSD was not known then. Whiskey was his analgesic.
He made some for the coal miners picnic that year, and got caught, and he was jailed for 60 days. Big headlines!
He asked the sheriff not to prosecute his friends, or the local priest who were all there drinking also.
Strange
your Grandfather would have been jailed in 1938 for making liquor. That was long after Prohibition was repealed. It was in effect in the U.S. from January 1920 to December 1933. And even when in effect exceptions were made for medicinal and religious uses.
your Grandfather would have been jailed in 1938 for making liquor. That was long after Prohibition was repealed. It was in effect in the U.S. from January 1920 to December 1933. And even when in effect exceptions were made for medicinal and religious uses.
But even after prohibition was repealed, there were dry counties, at least in the south. I don't know if being in a dry county would have made it illegal to distribute home-made alcohol, but the states were pretty strict about where people bought legal alcohol because of the taxes they collected on it. Some places like Alabama had ABC (Alcoholic Beveridge Commission) stores, the famous Alpha Beta Chi houses to college students.
Even after prohibition, home-distillation for consumption was never made legal in any state, as far as I know. There are possibly exceptions. The issue back then was taxation, because homemade liquor bypassed the tax, and the state was not going to let that happen. A minor concern then but a major concern now is the danger inherent to most home distilling. You’d think any idiot would know that a used car radiator would not produce safe results, but you’d be wrong. More seriously, there is the danger of producing toxic levels of methanol, usually called wood alcohol, in the distillation process.
vacerator
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Thaty was it I'm sure
of, the tax bypass issue. It was a poor coal mining community in western Pa.
No indoor bathrooms until after WW2 even. The houses were owned by the mine until then, and heated by a wood/coal stove in the kitchen.
Not unlike the Waltons, but on a smaller scale. Two adults and 8 children in a two bedroom four room house.
of, the tax bypass issue. It was a poor coal mining community in western Pa.
No indoor bathrooms until after WW2 even. The houses were owned by the mine until then, and heated by a wood/coal stove in the kitchen.
Not unlike the Waltons, but on a smaller scale. Two adults and 8 children in a two bedroom four room house.
iheartmaytag
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I have to admit
My Daddy bootlegged well into the 50s. In Kansas up until about five years ago you could not buy alcohol on Sunday, so you either stocked up the night before, crossed state line, or bought from a runner. We were after all a Carrie Nation state. So he ran hooch, said his biggest customer was the Baptist minister in Ferdonia, Daddy's hometown was Nedosha.
Even after he married my mother, who was against it, he still made his own until the house burned down and the still blew up. Mom tells about the volunteer firemen passing around one of the bottles after the fire was out. The still did not cause the fire, it was just a victim.
After that he still made his own wine, that was legal after 1970. He made some of the best wine in the basement between the furnace and water tank. Funny story, my grandmother, my mom's mom, would come for a visit,and just before bed she would say "You know, I would give a pretty for a glass of wine, just to help me sleep." The ladies at the Rock Mount Southern Baptist church would be a fluttered.
My Daddy bootlegged well into the 50s. In Kansas up until about five years ago you could not buy alcohol on Sunday, so you either stocked up the night before, crossed state line, or bought from a runner. We were after all a Carrie Nation state. So he ran hooch, said his biggest customer was the Baptist minister in Ferdonia, Daddy's hometown was Nedosha.
Even after he married my mother, who was against it, he still made his own until the house burned down and the still blew up. Mom tells about the volunteer firemen passing around one of the bottles after the fire was out. The still did not cause the fire, it was just a victim.
After that he still made his own wine, that was legal after 1970. He made some of the best wine in the basement between the furnace and water tank. Funny story, my grandmother, my mom's mom, would come for a visit,and just before bed she would say "You know, I would give a pretty for a glass of wine, just to help me sleep." The ladies at the Rock Mount Southern Baptist church would be a fluttered.
vacerator
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Cute story Harley!
I'm sure there were many, many speakeasy's during prohibition. It was a failed conservative law the depleted the tax base even worse than already had from the onset of the depression.
I'm sure there were many, many speakeasy's during prohibition. It was a failed conservative law the depleted the tax base even worse than already had from the onset of the depression.
rpms
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I found Ronnie Claire on Face Book. I like to think I actually chatted with her a few times?
Both her books are very good and I was lucky enough to get them autographed before she died a few months ago.
According to Ronnie,Grandma Walton's sneer of a smile was the result of one too many bad face lifts. Ellen and Ronnie were not friends on the show or in real life.
I had forgot Ronnie was on Designing Woman a few times. Ronnie and Dixie Carter were quite close after the show.
Both her books are very good and I was lucky enough to get them autographed before she died a few months ago.
According to Ronnie,Grandma Walton's sneer of a smile was the result of one too many bad face lifts. Ellen and Ronnie were not friends on the show or in real life.
I had forgot Ronnie was on Designing Woman a few times. Ronnie and Dixie Carter were quite close after the show.
vacosaurus
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CFZ 2882 wrote
zenith radio
i liked the ~1935 zenith radio they had with the green-glowing "eye" tube
The radio is actually a 1938 Zenith radio. It has long been nicknamed (the Walton radio ) It sells from $1200.00 to over $4000.00 on eBay because of the popularity of the TV series. I always get a chuckle as the original movie "The Homecoming " that the series Waltons was developed from was time based in 1932 and had the family sitting around a 1938 radio in 1932.
zenith radio
i liked the ~1935 zenith radio they had with the green-glowing "eye" tube
The radio is actually a 1938 Zenith radio. It has long been nicknamed (the Walton radio ) It sells from $1200.00 to over $4000.00 on eBay because of the popularity of the TV series. I always get a chuckle as the original movie "The Homecoming " that the series Waltons was developed from was time based in 1932 and had the family sitting around a 1938 radio in 1932.
miele_ge
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"The Testicals in the Whirlpool"....
Sounds like an episode of "Bones." Seriously, I would need some concrete facts on that. How low did those suckers hang anyway? There was a very odd movie about a young man who stuck his penis in a hot tub jet and was mangled... just a weird movie overall. Don't remember the name. Scott put it on the Netflix queue a while back and he promptly fell asleep. I wasted an hour because I wanted to see how the train wreck ended.
We watched the Walton's all the time. Dad grew up in the coal towns of West Virginia in the 30's, 40's and early 50's so it resonated with him I think and we kids liked all the old stuff.
And the sisters and the "recipe" were a hoot. I think they knew all along what they were making but were too genteel to let on. Dad would occasionally get a jar of 'shine from someone passing through. I remember smelling one after he died and dumping it down the drain! Rather awful stuff.
Does anyone remember a 1970's TV show called "The Snoop Sisters"? They remind me of them,
Sounds like an episode of "Bones." Seriously, I would need some concrete facts on that. How low did those suckers hang anyway? There was a very odd movie about a young man who stuck his penis in a hot tub jet and was mangled... just a weird movie overall. Don't remember the name. Scott put it on the Netflix queue a while back and he promptly fell asleep. I wasted an hour because I wanted to see how the train wreck ended.
We watched the Walton's all the time. Dad grew up in the coal towns of West Virginia in the 30's, 40's and early 50's so it resonated with him I think and we kids liked all the old stuff.
And the sisters and the "recipe" were a hoot. I think they knew all along what they were making but were too genteel to let on. Dad would occasionally get a jar of 'shine from someone passing through. I remember smelling one after he died and dumping it down the drain! Rather awful stuff.
Does anyone remember a 1970's TV show called "The Snoop Sisters"? They remind me of them,
cfz2882
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1938 zenith radio
yeah,that was a pretty fancy radio for 1932 I had a 1936 zenith radio kinda similar to the waltons radio(did not have eye tube)but it did have two power options:could run off AC wall current or a 6v automotive battery via a built in vibrator power supply.I have a 1937 Zenith with the same setup.
yeah,that was a pretty fancy radio for 1932
I had a 1936 zenith radio kinda similar to the waltons radio(did not have eye tube)but it did have two power options:could run off AC wall current or a 6v automotive battery via a built in vibrator power supply.I have a 1937 Zenith with the same setup.
