I knew GM was in the appliance business, and even Ford was in it with their acquisition of Philco for a while...but Chrysler?
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They made air conditioners too?
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JerseyMike
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I have no idea how common they were, but my family had Chrysler AirTemp (sp?) room air conditioner. Both my mom and I have pretty bad allergies (I go for allergy shots) so we had the Chrysler AirTemp before mom got her first automatic. She got her first automatic in the fall of 1960.
Mike
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My mothers house came with 2 Chrysler window units when she bought it in 1977. One unit was just like the one pictured ( 18,000btus), the other was even older, had slide controls instead of knobs. (12,000 btu's) The fronts on both of these folded up to close them off for the winter because Lord knows, you wouldn't want to wrestle these tanks out of the windows every year.
These were SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO quiet!
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I agree with Steve, they were so quiet!
They would cool so well!
The part that I rememberd so much about them growing up in Louisiana, is on a humid day,(Imagine that in Louisiana) the cold air would come out so cold, it would be a fog.
Those day's are gone.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane! I can still hear the purr of the compressor!
Brent
They would cool so well!
The part that I rememberd so much about them growing up in Louisiana, is on a humid day,(Imagine that in Louisiana) the cold air would come out so cold, it would be a fog.
Those day's are gone.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane! I can still hear the purr of the compressor!
Brent
I'm pretty sure that Chrysler had Airtemp since the 1930s.
Also, Nash (later to become AMC) had Kelvinator since the 1930s.
Ken
Also, Nash (later to become AMC) had Kelvinator since the 1930s.
Ken
In one building where I used to work they had two Chrysler "AirTemp" 150 ton capacity chillers-they had died long ago and tagged "AIP"Abandoned In Place"They were quite interesting-a Radial compressor-much like a radial airplane engine Cylinders arranged in a circle around the center of the engine-was driven by a 30Hp 3Ph motor.Would have loved to see them working.I like large building HVAC equipment.
They were
fabulous air conditioners!
Probably inefficient as heck, but they were cool, and indeed quiet.
They used the technology for the units in the Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouths.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
fabulous air conditioners!
Probably inefficient as heck, but they were cool, and indeed quiet.
They used the technology for the units in the Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouths.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Oh, and to the best of my knowledge,
this was Chrysler's only appliance-y offering.
Though not Chrysler's only non road business...Chrysler Marine! That's another story, however.
L/Mb
this was Chrysler's only appliance-y offering.
Though not Chrysler's only non road business...Chrysler Marine! That's another story, however.
L/Mb
jasonl
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OMG!
We had one in the kitchen before we got central air. Yes, Chrysler.
We had one in the kitchen before we got central air. Yes, Chrysler.
COOL! literally! Those chillers sound quite interesting. I'm suprised that they had only 30 HP motors to be 150 ton. In fact, if those things had a 10 EER (which I hardly imagine they were that efficient), they would be about 200 HP (150 ton equal to about 150 Kilowatts. 150KW / .746KW per horsepower). When I worked up at Reynolds metals, their chiller had a 400 HP compressor motor on it. The motor was about the size of an oil drum laying on it's side. Those weren't radial though, but centrifugal. The centrifugal compressors were a unique and modern design and that was the first building to use them at the time. The only drawback to them is that they produced the most god awful scream. Standing next to one was like standing on the runway beside a 747 at full throttle.
You speak of the air conditioners producing a fog of cold air, my G.E. "Fashionette" portacool in my workshop will do that! It is uses the spine fin coils, and uses R12 to produce a chilly 38 degree output temperature. When I open the door to the workshop, it lets in a bunch of humid air that instantly condenses in the chilly output of the AC unit...gotta love those old spine-fin coils!
I believe Chrysler's outboard division was sold to Brunswick marine (IE Mercury) back in the early 80's, and was re-named "Force" I've noticed that those outboards end up on the back of some of the lower end boats out there as package deals. Although the exterior paint scheme has changed, the engines are by and large the same ones they were back in the 60's. The problem is that they are being upstaged by many of the high-tech 4 cycle and HPDI designs offered by other manufacturers.
You speak of the air conditioners producing a fog of cold air, my G.E. "Fashionette" portacool in my workshop will do that! It is uses the spine fin coils, and uses R12 to produce a chilly 38 degree output temperature. When I open the door to the workshop, it lets in a bunch of humid air that instantly condenses in the chilly output of the AC unit...gotta love those old spine-fin coils!
I believe Chrysler's outboard division was sold to Brunswick marine (IE Mercury) back in the early 80's, and was re-named "Force" I've noticed that those outboards end up on the back of some of the lower end boats out there as package deals. Although the exterior paint scheme has changed, the engines are by and large the same ones they were back in the 60's. The problem is that they are being upstaged by many of the high-tech 4 cycle and HPDI designs offered by other manufacturers.
Probably inefficient as heck, but they were cool, and indeed
Energy can neither be created not destroyed. All of the energy (electricty) applied does SOMETHING.
The units we think of as inefficient (less cooling per unit of electricity; otherwise known as an EER~ energy efficiency ratio or BTU's per watt) acutally DEHUMIDIFIED better.
Efficiency is gained, amoung other methods, by increasing the size of the coils. Smaller coils get colder, therby condensing more moisture our of the air. (same cooling over a smaller area/surface).
Humidity removal is not, to my knowledge, normally part of the calculation of an EER.
Energy can neither be created not destroyed. All of the energy (electricty) applied does SOMETHING.
The units we think of as inefficient (less cooling per unit of electricity; otherwise known as an EER~ energy efficiency ratio or BTU's per watt) acutally DEHUMIDIFIED better.
Efficiency is gained, amoung other methods, by increasing the size of the coils. Smaller coils get colder, therby condensing more moisture our of the air. (same cooling over a smaller area/surface).
Humidity removal is not, to my knowledge, normally part of the calculation of an EER.
Well, then....
how about "expensive to run?"
Lawrence/Maytagbear
how about "expensive to run?"
Lawrence/Maytagbear
We also had an airtemp several years back and i can remember it being a very good a/c that would freeze you out. That unit was a through the wall model. The Frigidaire i purchased a few years back to replace it is not nearly as good.
Also in the Wash DC building they had two types of centrifical chillers-the older ones were Carrier 600 Ton and had 700 HP "Crocker Wheeler" motors-3 with synchronous motors -the other two with wond rotor AC motors.both ran from 2400V 3 Ph.These were less efficient than the later Trane units that were installed-these units cooled two buildings.Required 1.16Hp per ton.
Then to 1997-The new Trane contrfical chillers were installed-again 5 units-3 1200Ton and two 600ton.These had Hermetic motors and were only about one half Hp per ton.They had multiple stage compressers.The Carriers had two stage- and a speed increaser gear that stepped up the motor speed to 10,000RPM at the compresser.The Tranes had direct drive motors-3450 RPM.They also ran off the 2400V 3 Ph.The Trane motors were also about the size of a 55 gal drum.The 1200 ton units the motors were a bit larger.I am wondering if those old Chrysler units cooled some of the studios-The studio cooling was several 150 ton units-of the following Brands-Dunmore Bush,Trane,and Worthington.These were all hermetic and no horsepower ratings-Hermetic motors usually rated by current draw than HP ratings.The Gov't building I worked in was considering one of the first to have central air conditioning.I also had to maintain antennas on the building roof-and there was LOTS of condenser coolers up there.And had to work up there with 'em going-got VERY hot!A centrifical chiller can make a "screaming" sound if it isn't properly loaded-sounds like the unloader vanes aren't opening.Won't harm the unit-its running at full speed-like having your hand over your vacuum cleaner hose-the air isn't flowing and it makes your vacuum motor run faster-a higher pitched sound.And the unit is drawing less current.When they are loaded properly the units are pretty quiet-less noise than a recipricating unit of the same capacity.On centrifical compressors the loading vanes are closed(on compressor inlet)to put less of a load on the motor upon start up.On the Trane units they were automatic load-You pushed the "start" button on the unit's control panel-the condensor and evaporator pump valves open-then the pumps start.Next you hear the 2500 V contactors close at the "start "the motors had auto transformer starters-to lessn the surge on the line-with it unloaded-it starts easily-than another HV contactor cycles full line voltage to the motor.Then you see the compressor start to be loaded-the inlet vanes slowly open-you can watch the levers that open them being cycled.Sometimes I had to start the unit at night when it was hot in the area where I worked.Sure beat the window units!!
Then to 1997-The new Trane contrfical chillers were installed-again 5 units-3 1200Ton and two 600ton.These had Hermetic motors and were only about one half Hp per ton.They had multiple stage compressers.The Carriers had two stage- and a speed increaser gear that stepped up the motor speed to 10,000RPM at the compresser.The Tranes had direct drive motors-3450 RPM.They also ran off the 2400V 3 Ph.The Trane motors were also about the size of a 55 gal drum.The 1200 ton units the motors were a bit larger.I am wondering if those old Chrysler units cooled some of the studios-The studio cooling was several 150 ton units-of the following Brands-Dunmore Bush,Trane,and Worthington.These were all hermetic and no horsepower ratings-Hermetic motors usually rated by current draw than HP ratings.The Gov't building I worked in was considering one of the first to have central air conditioning.I also had to maintain antennas on the building roof-and there was LOTS of condenser coolers up there.And had to work up there with 'em going-got VERY hot!A centrifical chiller can make a "screaming" sound if it isn't properly loaded-sounds like the unloader vanes aren't opening.Won't harm the unit-its running at full speed-like having your hand over your vacuum cleaner hose-the air isn't flowing and it makes your vacuum motor run faster-a higher pitched sound.And the unit is drawing less current.When they are loaded properly the units are pretty quiet-less noise than a recipricating unit of the same capacity.On centrifical compressors the loading vanes are closed(on compressor inlet)to put less of a load on the motor upon start up.On the Trane units they were automatic load-You pushed the "start" button on the unit's control panel-the condensor and evaporator pump valves open-then the pumps start.Next you hear the 2500 V contactors close at the "start "the motors had auto transformer starters-to lessn the surge on the line-with it unloaded-it starts easily-than another HV contactor cycles full line voltage to the motor.Then you see the compressor start to be loaded-the inlet vanes slowly open-you can watch the levers that open them being cycled.Sometimes I had to start the unit at night when it was hot in the area where I worked.Sure beat the window units!!
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I picked up that Chrysler Airtemp window unit today, runs great and quiet as heck just like I remember.
It's a 1970 "Imperial" model and is an 8800 btu unit. Had one just like it in my tv shop in the 80's, thing just wouldn't die..
It's a 1970 "Imperial" model and is an 8800 btu unit. Had one just like it in my tv shop in the 80's, thing just wouldn't die..
jasonl
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8800 btu
That's a pretty hefty AC. I remember our cooled the kitchen and living room and there was a WA Wizard in the bedroom.
That's a pretty hefty AC. I remember our cooled the kitchen and living room and there was a WA Wizard in the bedroom.
andrewinorlando
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Fabulous air conditioners. Energy hogs but terrific coolers. There large 32,000 btu units were used regularly in commercial establishments in NY back in the 60s/70s/80s. Reliable to a fault.
