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Third Video: 2006 Frigidaire TL'er washing 36 Bar Mops
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jasonl
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Considering what's left of today's toploaders, those Frigilux machines are pretty cool. Normal long stroke agitation, indexing tub. Makes for fun washing.
Another possibility if you have to buy a new TL machine.
Yeah, I like it too, despite its questionable performance with large, heavily-soiled loads. I really wanted to get an 'old-school' TL'er before they ALL become DD Whirlclones. And I don't have local access to the Speed Queen line or that would have been my machine of choice.
Rex-- I'd love to be able to highly recommend one, but with the lowered maximum water level cutting into useable capacity and the less-than-stellar washing performance, I really can't. I have mine strictly for its entertainment value.
Full disclaimer: The machine is filling to its factory-set highest water level, which is just slightly above the holes third row down. You can't see the top row of holes because of the camera angle.
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hot water filling
i have a frigidaire stacking top load w/d . straight vane agi, dryer is s/s inside. In my place the kitchen and the bathroom are directly across the hall from each other. I have no problem with hot water pressure in my kitchen sink, or dishwasher, or in the bathroom. However, when I do a hot wash in the washing machine it takes for ever to fill up. I don't understand--I can't have a warm wash it's cold and this time of year the cold wash is freezing!
I wonder if the machine is set that way or if the guy who installed it just didn't turn the hot tap all the way on. He was not happy about delivering and installing this unit in such a small space. The fridge and the d/w are directly opposite the washer. I can't open either one of them all the way.
help solve the mystery please
courtney
i have a frigidaire stacking top load w/d . straight vane agi, dryer is s/s inside. In my place the kitchen and the bathroom are directly across the hall from each other. I have no problem with hot water pressure in my kitchen sink, or dishwasher, or in the bathroom. However, when I do a hot wash in the washing machine it takes for ever to fill up. I don't understand--I can't have a warm wash it's cold and this time of year the cold wash is freezing!
I wonder if the machine is set that way or if the guy who installed it just didn't turn the hot tap all the way on. He was not happy about delivering and installing this unit in such a small space. The fridge and the d/w are directly opposite the washer. I can't open either one of them all the way.
help solve the mystery please
courtney
If the water is entering very slowly, you might have a kinked inlet hose or some grit in the screen at the faucet end of the hose.
It takes my washer awhile to fill on the hot setting, too, though. I've never timed it. I should. I'd guesstimate it takes 4 or 5 minutes to fill completly.
It takes my washer awhile to fill on the hot setting, too, though. I've never timed it. I should. I'd guesstimate it takes 4 or 5 minutes to fill completly.
mayken4now
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IMHO - Horrible
Thanks so much for sharing
Thanks so much for sharing
Fabric softener on bar mops?
Peter--- I don't usually do fabric softener with them, but the pretty, pretty pink liquid was too much to pass up for the vid.
Steve--- I wish I could argue the point with you, but I don't have much of a leg to stand on, LOL. There is rollover, but it's slow. Very slow. In a 15-minute wash there are usually 5-7 complete rollovers on a full load, which in this day and age (DD/fast, short strokes) is like comparing a tortoise to a hare. But it's fun to watch---if a bit vertigo-inducing. I still think rollover would be greatly improved with a ramped Westy-style agitator. The fins on this agitator are too small to do much with a full load. They're tiny! They don't stand a chance against the challenge of a full load in a deep tub. And the auger is apparantly just there for looks, cuz it don't do much.
And as I've pointed out several times, I wouldn't recommend this washer as a daily driver. I've washed highly-stained loads of kitchen whites in it and if I do a soak/prewash, things come out pretty well. But that's an extra 22 gallons of water for what my front loader does in a single, regular cycle. So I usually do that load in the FL'er.
Steve--- I wish I could argue the point with you, but I don't have much of a leg to stand on, LOL. There is rollover, but it's slow. Very slow. In a 15-minute wash there are usually 5-7 complete rollovers on a full load, which in this day and age (DD/fast, short strokes) is like comparing a tortoise to a hare. But it's fun to watch---if a bit vertigo-inducing. I still think rollover would be greatly improved with a ramped Westy-style agitator. The fins on this agitator are too small to do much with a full load. They're tiny! They don't stand a chance against the challenge of a full load in a deep tub. And the auger is apparantly just there for looks, cuz it don't do much.
And as I've pointed out several times, I wouldn't recommend this washer as a daily driver. I've washed highly-stained loads of kitchen whites in it and if I do a soak/prewash, things come out pretty well. But that's an extra 22 gallons of water for what my front loader does in a single, regular cycle. So I usually do that load in the FL'er.
And while we're on the subject of rollover, I seem to recall that Consumer Reports had a benchmark of sorts---back in the slow-stroke, pre-dual action agitator days--- for how many times a load should rollover during the wash portion of the cycle. Was it two times or three? It was one of those, I'm pretty sure.
Does anyone remember reading about this?
Does anyone remember reading about this?
mayken4now
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frigilux:
I do know one thing is for sure, we'd welcome any machine compared to scrubbing them by hand on a board or a rock. We/I'd be grateful to have one if that were the case.
On a rock or a board, turnover prolly never occurs. LOL
Steve
I do know one thing is for sure, we'd welcome any machine compared to scrubbing them by hand on a board or a rock. We/I'd be grateful to have one if that were the case.
On a rock or a board, turnover prolly never occurs. LOL
Steve
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Eugene, great video! I think you've just discovered the perfect load for a new Frigidaire, bar mops! The rollover looked great.
For better circulation and more thrashing, you could always adapt either of the 2 variations of modern Frigidaire straight-vane agitators to this one. Those agitators are better suited to an indexing tub anyway, especially the BOL 5-vaned version!
The problem with the corkscrews and indexing tubs and why they don't mix is that no matter which direction the corkscrew turns, it will always be ineffective IMHO. With the corkscrew going the same direction as the tub, chances are it will move at the same speed as the tub, so the clothes will just be moving around in a circle with no rollover. When the corkscrew moves clockwise, as shown here, there's another problem because with the indexing tub, the clockwise forward stroke is much shorter than the counterclockwise backstroke. Thus it doesn't move much, which also doesn't help turnover...
Just my 2 cents.
--Austin
For better circulation and more thrashing, you could always adapt either of the 2 variations of modern Frigidaire straight-vane agitators to this one. Those agitators are better suited to an indexing tub anyway, especially the BOL 5-vaned version!
The problem with the corkscrews and indexing tubs and why they don't mix is that no matter which direction the corkscrew turns, it will always be ineffective IMHO. With the corkscrew going the same direction as the tub, chances are it will move at the same speed as the tub, so the clothes will just be moving around in a circle with no rollover. When the corkscrew moves clockwise, as shown here, there's another problem because with the indexing tub, the clockwise forward stroke is much shorter than the counterclockwise backstroke. Thus it doesn't move much, which also doesn't help turnover...
Just my 2 cents.
--Austin
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Great Vid.. What is a bar mop???? A gloirfied dish rag??
Dads Frigidaire seems to have better turn over than you'res does.. Hmmm.. It has the straight vane.. New puter won't let me post a video yet... Gotta figure windows vista out..
Dads Frigidaire seems to have better turn over than you'res does.. Hmmm.. It has the straight vane.. New puter won't let me post a video yet... Gotta figure windows vista out..
Chad-- Bar mops are a roughly hand towel-sized, highly-textured towel used in bars and restaurants to wipe down counters, clean up spills, etc. They're a kitchen workhorse towel. I get mine in packs of 12 at Sam's Club. Most of the towels in my load were clean. I just grabbed three dozen off the kitchen shelf to use in the video. I forgot that I'd also thrown in 5 dirty ones, so there were actually 41 towels in the video load. I realized this when folding them out of the dryer. But the vid was already titled and processed, so I let the numerical error stand.
Austin-- I think you're right. I recall watching my sister's older Frigi TL'er (before they had dual-action agitators) and the straight, full-length vanes seemed to do a better job with rollover than mine does. The auger really does little to assist with rollover for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I really should order a straight-vane and try it out.
My question is this: The spot where the post engages the agitator in my machine is fairly low, due to the built-in softener dispenser. I wonder if the straight-vane would even fit correctly? My only experience with agitators was pulling out the fatty Roto-Swirl from our '60 KM, and it engaged the post right at the very top of the agitator. I can also ask my dealer/repair guy if they are interchangeable. He'd probably know.
Austin-- I think you're right. I recall watching my sister's older Frigi TL'er (before they had dual-action agitators) and the straight, full-length vanes seemed to do a better job with rollover than mine does. The auger really does little to assist with rollover for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I really should order a straight-vane and try it out.
My question is this: The spot where the post engages the agitator in my machine is fairly low, due to the built-in softener dispenser. I wonder if the straight-vane would even fit correctly? My only experience with agitators was pulling out the fatty Roto-Swirl from our '60 KM, and it engaged the post right at the very top of the agitator. I can also ask my dealer/repair guy if they are interchangeable. He'd probably know.
It should fit fine. In today's modern manufacturing cost cutting, Frigidaire would not have a separate agitator shaft for each different agitator. You should be able to get these agitator easily behind any used appliance dealer.
My question: Have you tried holding the tub so that it doesn't index? You should be able to do this (depending on how strong your arms are) and notice a great increase in washing ability.
My question: Have you tried holding the tub so that it doesn't index? You should be able to do this (depending on how strong your arms are) and notice a great increase in washing ability.
Peter-- I have stopped the tub from indexing for brief periods, but the machine seems to labor, so I don't want to screw up anything in the tranny. It does seem as though rollover is a bit better.
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