Those Laundry Detergent "Pods" ...
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<a name="start_49939.722119">Proctor and Gamble has to take Ariel pods from the market</a>
I wonder if that's the reason why we're still awaiting the release of anything "pods", be it for laundry of dishes, by P&G here.
I wonder if that's the reason why we're still awaiting the release of anything "pods", be it for laundry of dishes, by P&G here.
Here's the link to an article in Dutch:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/dft/nieuws_dft/22153344/__Rechter__Ariel_Pods_moeten_winkel_uit__.html
Apparently Unilever wants to take Proctor and Gamble to court too about the Ariel tabs. But they can't do that through a summary procedure because the tabs have been on the market for ten years.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/dft/nieuws_dft/22153344/__Rechter__Ariel_Pods_moeten_winkel_uit__.html
Apparently Unilever wants to take Proctor and Gamble to court too about the Ariel tabs. But they can't do that through a summary procedure because the tabs have been on the market for ten years.
Which are the Ariel Tabs?
We've had a few formats here:
P&G Ariel and Daz : Tablets (compressed powder in foil wraps that dissolves in the drawer)
P&G Ariel and Daz Liquitabs (highly concentrated liquid in a dissolvable pouch)
P&G Ariel Pods (3 compartment pod, same as Tide)
Unilever Persil and Surf Capsules (liquid in a dissolvable pouch)
Unilever Persil Gel Tablets which were compressed powder with a hardened gel. These were put in a net bag directly into the drum.
Unilever Persil and Surf Tablets : for use with a net in the drum without the gel section.
Unilever Persil and Surf tablet that dispense in the drawer (compressed powder)
Own brand products (mostly McBride) also produce dissolvable liquid capsules for all the major supermarkets.
Solid powder tablets that dissolve in the drawer are also produced for all the supermarkets by McBride and a few others.
McBride (on its website) claims to be the first to produce liquid capsules back in 2001.
See: http://www.mcbride.co.uk/media-centre/heritage
Loads of info about McBride's liquids below
We've had a few formats here:
P&G Ariel and Daz : Tablets (compressed powder in foil wraps that dissolves in the drawer)
P&G Ariel and Daz Liquitabs (highly concentrated liquid in a dissolvable pouch)
P&G Ariel Pods (3 compartment pod, same as Tide)
Unilever Persil and Surf Capsules (liquid in a dissolvable pouch)
Unilever Persil Gel Tablets which were compressed powder with a hardened gel. These were put in a net bag directly into the drum.
Unilever Persil and Surf Tablets : for use with a net in the drum without the gel section.
Unilever Persil and Surf tablet that dispense in the drawer (compressed powder)
Own brand products (mostly McBride) also produce dissolvable liquid capsules for all the major supermarkets.
Solid powder tablets that dissolve in the drawer are also produced for all the supermarkets by McBride and a few others.
McBride (on its website) claims to be the first to produce liquid capsules back in 2001.
See: http://www.mcbride.co.uk/media-centre/heritage
Loads of info about McBride's liquids below
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jeb
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stupid people use pods
I really must take issue with this. My mother is not a stupid person- she does have bad arthritis, scoliosis, has had 2 knee replacement, and has trouble with her eyes. She uses pods because it is hard for her to measure either liquid or powder detergents. Her clothing doesn't get really dirty and she does use hot and warm water with her wash so they seem to be very clean to me. My mother whent to college, raised a family, had a very responsible job, and even now is the treasurer of a large local museum. My mother is not a stupid, lazy, dirty person and she uses pods.
I really must take issue with this. My mother is not a stupid person- she does have bad arthritis, scoliosis, has had 2 knee replacement, and has trouble with her eyes. She uses pods because it is hard for her to measure either liquid or powder detergents. Her clothing doesn't get really dirty and she does use hot and warm water with her wash so they seem to be very clean to me. My mother whent to college, raised a family, had a very responsible job, and even now is the treasurer of a large local museum. My mother is not a stupid, lazy, dirty person and she uses pods.
There are lots of reasons why someone may prefer to use capsules, pods or tablets to dose a machine.
They do have the advantage of not overdosing the machine. Some people are VERY heavy handed with the detergent and don't measure at all.
I know a few people who just fill the drawer with powder or guess how much liquid they're pouring in and probably use about 3X too much.
With seriously concentrated products it's even harder to measure without a device and a lot of people just find these formats handy.
If you've skin allergies, the pods can be quite a handy way of avoiding coming into any contact with the detergent itself too.
They do have the advantage of not overdosing the machine. Some people are VERY heavy handed with the detergent and don't measure at all.
I know a few people who just fill the drawer with powder or guess how much liquid they're pouring in and probably use about 3X too much.
With seriously concentrated products it's even harder to measure without a device and a lot of people just find these formats handy.
If you've skin allergies, the pods can be quite a handy way of avoiding coming into any contact with the detergent itself too.
Too dumb to spit out--Why do we have so many poisonings among kids "too dumb to spit it out?"And keep in mind some of these products can poison you even if it ISN'T swallowed!!! Think the anthropology course you are taking needs to be updated.In the meantime--Keep the toxins out of reach of the kids and pets!!!Tasting things by young mammals is an INSTINCT that has to be broken by learning from the parent.Have you ever watched young mammals?wether kids,dogs,cats,whatever-they will investigate things by putting them in their mouths.They may not have the sense "to spit it out"That has to be learned-a few tastings and chastizing from the parent-then the young mammal learns.
arbilab
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Benzalkonium chloride is a potent biocide. In the quantities used, I would 'think' its surfactant properties irrelevant. I'm 97.5% certain that it would not allow, much less promote, the growth of mold in the dispenser drawer, so that leaves a 2.5% chance that we're talking about the same phenomenon.
Remind me to tell you what BAC-- preservative in virtually every nasal spray including saline only-- does to your nasal cilia. Better, google it.
Remind me to tell you what BAC-- preservative in virtually every nasal spray including saline only-- does to your nasal cilia. Better, google it.
From a child safety point of view, they should be coated with denatonium benzoate or denatonium saccharide aka Bitrex, Bitter+Plus or Aversion.
These are vile tasting compounds that induce an almost instant gag reflex if you get them into your mouth and are used in many nasty cleaning products to avoid ingestion.
I would actually be more concerned about dishwasher detergent packs from an ingestion point of view because they're small enough to swallow / put in your mouth and some of them are very 'attractive' looking.
Laundry detergent pods/capsules are significantly bigger than dishwasher tablets, but they're often very 'interesting' looking and toy-like and I think the big risk there is probably puncturing the capsule and getting super-concentrated laundry detergent into your eye / face.
Rule of thumb is pretty simple : DO NOT LEAVE ANY household chemicals anywhere that kids could get access to them.
If you've toddlers, you need to invest in cupboard locks. It's pretty much as simple as that.
I don't think detergent pods are particularly worse than anything else. Kids could just as easily spray oven cleaner or pour strong bleach on themselves (although they've generally got child-proof locks on those products, anything's possible!)
The biggest risk in a house is actually prescription and over-the-counter medication as kids can mistakenly take these thinking they're candy having seen a parent / grandparent popping a pill.
These are vile tasting compounds that induce an almost instant gag reflex if you get them into your mouth and are used in many nasty cleaning products to avoid ingestion.
I would actually be more concerned about dishwasher detergent packs from an ingestion point of view because they're small enough to swallow / put in your mouth and some of them are very 'attractive' looking.
Laundry detergent pods/capsules are significantly bigger than dishwasher tablets, but they're often very 'interesting' looking and toy-like and I think the big risk there is probably puncturing the capsule and getting super-concentrated laundry detergent into your eye / face.
Rule of thumb is pretty simple : DO NOT LEAVE ANY household chemicals anywhere that kids could get access to them.
If you've toddlers, you need to invest in cupboard locks. It's pretty much as simple as that.
I don't think detergent pods are particularly worse than anything else. Kids could just as easily spray oven cleaner or pour strong bleach on themselves (although they've generally got child-proof locks on those products, anything's possible!)
The biggest risk in a house is actually prescription and over-the-counter medication as kids can mistakenly take these thinking they're candy having seen a parent / grandparent popping a pill.
Things like dishwasher detergents are especially dangerous becuase they can burn the mouth severely right when they go in-same as with drain cleaners and so on.Guess what really has to be done-is really make the packs non colorful and not looking like food or candy-pack them in child resistent containers(actually is there really such a thing?)-and the makers should have written on the containers urgently to store them from kids and even pets reach.
They're actually both quite nasty.
The injuries I've read about have tended to be eye injuries and respitory injuries when kids bite into the detergent liquid sachet Or by playing with it and sqeezing it. it splatters very concentrated chemicals directly into their faces. The biggest issue is eye injury.
Link to an article quoting a children's hospital doctor in Dublin.
The injuries I've read about have tended to be eye injuries and respitory injuries when kids bite into the detergent liquid sachet Or by playing with it and sqeezing it. it splatters very concentrated chemicals directly into their faces. The biggest issue is eye injury.
Link to an article quoting a children's hospital doctor in Dublin.
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psychcentral.com
WHAT??
"If you've skin allergies, the pods can be quite a handy way of avoiding coming into any contact with the detergent itself too."
If you have skin allergies, you should AVOID "pods" altogether since the detergents they put in them are among the most caustic and irritating to the skin in the first place.
"If you've skin allergies, the pods can be quite a handy way of avoiding coming into any contact with the detergent itself too."
If you have skin allergies, you should AVOID "pods" altogether since the detergents they put in them are among the most caustic and irritating to the skin in the first place.
They're hermetically sealed inside a plastic bubble. You don't contact the detergent at all.
The ingredients are no better it worse then any similarly formulated liquid in terms of skin allergy after the wash.
Obviously you don't puncture the pods and rub the content on your skin!
The ingredients are no better it worse then any similarly formulated liquid in terms of skin allergy after the wash.
Obviously you don't puncture the pods and rub the content on your skin!
In some ways I think the pods are more dangerous then things like oven cleaner or drain openers. There is a complacency due to the idea that they aren't dangerous like the harsh chemicals are. Couple this with the fact that they are attractive to infants with their bright colors etc.
Of course the responsibility should lie in the hands of the parents to keep all cleaning products away from the children. But still some thought into this issue needs to be addressed by the manufacturers. Perhaps something along the lines of the Mr Yuk program, although that won't work with infants.
Of course the responsibility should lie in the hands of the parents to keep all cleaning products away from the children. But still some thought into this issue needs to be addressed by the manufacturers. Perhaps something along the lines of the Mr Yuk program, although that won't work with infants.
Skin allergies ...
"They're hermetically sealed inside a plastic bubble. You don't contact the detergent at all. The ingredients are no better it worse then any similarly formulated liquid in terms of skin allergy after the wash."
My point is, if you have skin allergies you should be using a hypoallergenic detergent, not the crap they put in the pods.
"They're hermetically sealed inside a plastic bubble. You don't contact the detergent at all. The ingredients are no better it worse then any similarly formulated liquid in terms of skin allergy after the wash."
My point is, if you have skin allergies you should be using a hypoallergenic detergent, not the crap they put in the pods.
Agreed nothing funny about poison.
But "for the record" Mr. Yuk is the trademark spelling.
But "for the record" Mr. Yuk is the trademark spelling.
"I'm sorry, but if your child is stupid enough not only to mistake a laundry pod for "candy", AND too stupid to spit it out the minute the foul taste touches his tongue, I believe Darwinism truly needs to take over at this point. "
Wanted to send you the real thing, NYCWriter, but shipping rates to the center of the universe are outrageous!
Wanted to send you the real thing, NYCWriter, but shipping rates to the center of the universe are outrageous!
