Mzybe it was one of the doctors on Larry King, maybe it was somewhere else, but a medical professional in a discussion about the Craig thing said that he is a strong candidate for attempting suicide. Everything shameful has been put under the spot light and he probably feels that he has nothing to live for. This closet stuff can be serious and if anyone wants to say that being gay is curable, I would refer him to Senator Craig and the latest batch of fundamentalist ministers who got caught squeezing the Charmin. If anything could be done through prayer, would not the ministers have found it? And if it was possible to buy a medical cure, don't you think that Craig and other powerful gay republican spewers of hatred towards GLBT people would have had his or her doctor treat him and keep it in confidence? Anyone who is gay or lesbian or bi or transgender knows the agony of realizing we are different and nobody will like us if we don't hide this from everyone. Prayers go almost constantly, "Please, I don't want to be gay. Please help me be normal, like the others." Aside from the fact that the prayers never work because there must be a purpose we cannot see from here, we often later find out that some of the "normal" ones we admire are similarly blest. I believe it is further proof as to why I cannot accept that the Bible can be taken as literally written by the Creator. Why would we be created to be abominations if, as the Bible states, a part of the Creator is present within each of us as our soul? It does not make sense that the One who created us hates the portion of eternal spirit that is placed inside some of us, especially when, in most religions, we are taught that G-d is love. How can the Source of purest love hate? And how can the Source of purest love hate a part of itself? This is the sort of disconnect that shows the defects in the way religions "interpret" whatever message from "above" that they are passing on. I also believe that it is one of the reasons that the polls show that many people are describing themselves as "spiritual" instead of "religious."
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All conservatives are not haters-I,like PeterH770,am a Libertarian.I am also straight.Few are more conservative than me.True conservatives want to be left alone to do as they please,as long as they don't do things that hurt others-and are prepared to offer that same freedom we want for ourselves to everyone else.All conservatives are not represented by the 'Moral Police'mentality-in fact George Bush,who many people consider conservative,has presided over a huge increase in the cost,size,and scope of government.
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Hello Friends,
All conservatives are not haters-I,like PeterH770,am a Libertarian.I am also straight.Few are more conservative than me.True conservatives want to be left alone to do as they please,as long as they don't do things that hurt others-and are prepared to offer that same freedom we want for ourselves to everyone else.All conservatives are not represented by the 'Moral Police'mentality-in fact George Bush,who many people consider conservative,has presided over a huge increase in the cost,size,and scope of government.
Tom
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Not the first and not the last...
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For some strange reason, some of the most vile, gay-hating pundits are women (Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Monica Crowley, Laura Schlessinger)....
Probably because all of them - except "Dr." Laura, have philandering husbands - and I don't mean philandering with callgirls, I mean philandering with callBOYS.
As for "Dr." Laura (whose doctorate credentials in the field of counseling and psychology are imaginary), her problem is that she's just an uptight, mean, frustrated c-you-know-what who has gotten in touch with her Inner Bitch and made a fortune off of it.
How she entices people to call in and have a session of radio S&M with her is a mystery to me. She's a true dominatrix of verbal abuse.
Probably because all of them - except "Dr." Laura, have philandering husbands - and I don't mean philandering with callgirls, I mean philandering with callBOYS.
As for "Dr." Laura (whose doctorate credentials in the field of counseling and psychology are imaginary), her problem is that she's just an uptight, mean, frustrated c-you-know-what who has gotten in touch with her Inner Bitch and made a fortune off of it.
How she entices people to call in and have a session of radio S&M with her is a mystery to me. She's a true dominatrix of verbal abuse.
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Wow, what an eye opener! BTW, any news on Anita Bryant? Not the glossy publicist crap.
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Craig Arrest Interrogation Excerpts
See link.
(Re Anita Bryant, is she still alive? it's true, we certainly have't heard much from her if she is. I seem to recall an ironic scandal involving her hubby being caught in a compromising situation with a man. Is that so or am I indulging in wishful thinking, haha!)
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See link.
(Re Anita Bryant, is she still alive? it's true, we certainly have't heard much from her if she is. I seem to recall an ironic scandal involving her hubby being caught in a compromising situation with a man. Is that so or am I indulging in wishful thinking, haha!)
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Interesting. I was unaware that Anita had recanted her anti-gay campaign, and that she has fallen on hard times.
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"Ann Coulter"
is a woman?
Not with that adams-apple and that voice.
is a woman?
Not with that adams-apple and that voice.
Ann Coulter is an alien. But they made a mistake when they
altered the appearance to be human. They were trying to make
her appear normal, but they didn't understand the human race
has many differences. They incorporated thoughts from the
brain of a neo-con-neanderthal when she landed on earth. The
tragedy is the number of people that actually identify with
her/it.
altered the appearance to be human. They were trying to make
her appear normal, but they didn't understand the human race
has many differences. They incorporated thoughts from the
brain of a neo-con-neanderthal when she landed on earth. The
tragedy is the number of people that actually identify with
her/it.
danemodsandy
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A Little Light Reading:
It seems that Aaron Belkin of the Washington Post and I think alike.
This is bad law and bad enforcement, even if Larry Craig is the worst guy in the world:
It seems that Aaron Belkin of the Washington Post and I think alike.
This is bad law and bad enforcement, even if Larry Craig is the worst guy in the world:
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Ann Coulter reminds me well her face reminds me of a Greyhound...not the bus but the dog. If you put the her face next to a pic of a greyhound you can see they look the same. I dont know why people give her the time of day for what she has to say. I know she doesnt speak for all Republicans but my gawd get her a vibrator with batteries or one that plugs in...she needs somethin.
Mike
Mike
Does anyone ever wonder...
...about the character of a man who would solicit for sex as an undercover agent on behalf of the state? I don't approve of sex in public bathrooms, but I question the logic of using tax money to pay the salary of someone who patrols public bathrooms actively soliciting for sex. I'm not convinced that this is the best use of my investment in the state. And what type of person would want that job?
While I personally believe that the senator had every intention of having sex with this officer, either in the bathroom or elsewhere, the fact is that he was arrested and yet no sexual activity occurred. I question the practice of arresting someone for a perceived intent to commit a crime.
In the case of the senator, given his history, I have little doubt that he would have had sex in the bathroom given the opportunity, and the arrest would have been justified. But is toe tapping, the perceived intent to commit a crime, sufficient evidence to arrest as though a crime had been committed?
...about the character of a man who would solicit for sex as an undercover agent on behalf of the state? I don't approve of sex in public bathrooms, but I question the logic of using tax money to pay the salary of someone who patrols public bathrooms actively soliciting for sex. I'm not convinced that this is the best use of my investment in the state. And what type of person would want that job?
While I personally believe that the senator had every intention of having sex with this officer, either in the bathroom or elsewhere, the fact is that he was arrested and yet no sexual activity occurred. I question the practice of arresting someone for a perceived intent to commit a crime.
In the case of the senator, given his history, I have little doubt that he would have had sex in the bathroom given the opportunity, and the arrest would have been justified. But is toe tapping, the perceived intent to commit a crime, sufficient evidence to arrest as though a crime had been committed?
Ann Coulter reminds me ... of a Greyhound
As long as your lunch is well-digested...
As long as your lunch is well-digested...
Ann Coulter is the liquid detergent of the laundry room. Beneath that hard shell of an exterior, is a wimpy, ineffective, slightly slimy concoction whose main function is to waste space, time, and money.
Larry Craig seems to have gotten the conservative message all wrong. His mission was supposed to be to share his family values... not his family jewels... lol...
I tend to agree with those who are disturbed by the whole deal. OK so this guy is a Republican who voted for anti-gay legislation and in my book that maked him one of the bad guys.
But I also believe everyone should be treated fairly under the law, and that victimless crimes should be abolished. (If nodody suffers, why should it be illegal?)
If some guy in the next cubicle taps his foot or makes hand signals under the wall, what is so hard about saying, "no thanks, I'm not interested?" Why does valuable police time have to be wasted on some big operation?
It's all based on hate and fear. Straight men are encouraged to fear being approached by a gay man, that's why so many times gay men have been bashed or murdered when they have made a pass at a homophobe.
I actually don't think the senator should be found guilty of any crime. Even if there was some police operation, why was he arrested at the stage when his only action was to tap his foot and wave his hand? That is NOT lewd conduct. Maybe the copper should have waited a little longer to see if things went further, if somebody actually DID something sexual in public then fine, book 'em Danno. If someone gets all of a lather because someone smiled at him in a rest room, get over it!
But I also believe everyone should be treated fairly under the law, and that victimless crimes should be abolished. (If nodody suffers, why should it be illegal?)
If some guy in the next cubicle taps his foot or makes hand signals under the wall, what is so hard about saying, "no thanks, I'm not interested?" Why does valuable police time have to be wasted on some big operation?
It's all based on hate and fear. Straight men are encouraged to fear being approached by a gay man, that's why so many times gay men have been bashed or murdered when they have made a pass at a homophobe.
I actually don't think the senator should be found guilty of any crime. Even if there was some police operation, why was he arrested at the stage when his only action was to tap his foot and wave his hand? That is NOT lewd conduct. Maybe the copper should have waited a little longer to see if things went further, if somebody actually DID something sexual in public then fine, book 'em Danno. If someone gets all of a lather because someone smiled at him in a rest room, get over it!
a picture worth a thousand words
I've kept out of this discussion so far and intend to continue to stay out of it.
I do think this little cartoon touches upon the root of the matter rather cleverly, tho'.
I've kept out of this discussion so far and intend to continue to stay out of it.
I do think this little cartoon touches upon the root of the matter rather cleverly, tho'.
While this may be a "victimless crime", it's also a real pain in the ass for building managers, and I can see why they bring the cops in. A public bathroom, even in a government building, is only "public" in the sense that it is provided for convenience and sanitation.
I am very open-minded about things of this matter, and am certainly no angel when it comes to doing trashy things. However, I've also worked in hotels and buildings that got known for their bathrooms, and sometimes the only way to get the gents to knock it off, is to scare them with a few arrests.
If it were simply a matter of people saying "no thanks" and the other person taking no for an answer, it would be one thing. But many of them don't. Many of them plant themselves in a stall, and don't leave for hours.
There are other aspects of their activity that are more problematic. I'm trying hard to be delicate here, so I'll ask you to use your imagination regarding the possible housekeeping ramifications. It ranks right up there with sloppy IV users who decide to shoot up in a stall.
The same is true with parks. There is a nicely wooded park near where I work that is quite popular with cruisers. If you walk along any of the trails, you're going to find all sorts of nasty things that have been left there. I am usually the last person to be concerned about "the children", but then I think back to when I was a kid, when my friends and I pretty much had our run of Fairmont Park back in CB, and it makes me mad that these guys won't even clean up after themselves.
I am very open-minded about things of this matter, and am certainly no angel when it comes to doing trashy things. However, I've also worked in hotels and buildings that got known for their bathrooms, and sometimes the only way to get the gents to knock it off, is to scare them with a few arrests.
If it were simply a matter of people saying "no thanks" and the other person taking no for an answer, it would be one thing. But many of them don't. Many of them plant themselves in a stall, and don't leave for hours.
There are other aspects of their activity that are more problematic. I'm trying hard to be delicate here, so I'll ask you to use your imagination regarding the possible housekeeping ramifications. It ranks right up there with sloppy IV users who decide to shoot up in a stall.
The same is true with parks. There is a nicely wooded park near where I work that is quite popular with cruisers. If you walk along any of the trails, you're going to find all sorts of nasty things that have been left there. I am usually the last person to be concerned about "the children", but then I think back to when I was a kid, when my friends and I pretty much had our run of Fairmont Park back in CB, and it makes me mad that these guys won't even clean up after themselves.
Here's a good one...
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Oh why be delicate...I have seen condoms with goo in them left on the street near a bar in Boston and sticky floors in a bathroom at Macys in Boston and Portland. So yeah I would agree if your going to do the deed at least be kind and clean your mess. If your going to "let if fly" then you should clean it. Thats my 2 cents.
