Hey guys, I picked up a box of what I think is super tide I’m not sure I’ll grab some pictures when I get home
Tidea super, Has anyone heard of this detergent brand?
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I tried using Google translate but nothing came up
He is the other 2 sides of the box
Counterfeit Tide for the middle eastern market.
I didn’t think it was an actual counterfeit tide
Because I brought it from an actual store at this all nations grocery store thing
Because I brought it from an actual store at this all nations grocery store thing
What are the manufacturer’s contact details? You can use Google Translate & a camera to read any text
If it says P&G and an address somewhere in the Middle East, it’s possibly just localised Tide brand. Just seems odd they’d mess with Tide or Ariel as they’re multinational brands, but your are working with an entirely different script there, so you’d never know.
If it says P&G and an address somewhere in the Middle East, it’s possibly just localised Tide brand. Just seems odd they’d mess with Tide or Ariel as they’re multinational brands, but your are working with an entirely different script there, so you’d never know.
I had a look
And there is no address or anything, I’ll have to have a look at the packaging boxes that it comes in And Google translate tried translating the Arabic text but all that was a direct translation
And there is no address or anything, I’ll have to have a look at the packaging boxes that it comes in And Google translate tried translating the Arabic text but all that was a direct translation
Could be some ripoff store own brand copycat or something. If there’s no P&G address on it it’s not likely to be Tide. You’d expect a web address, phone number possibly postal address.
In some markets you might get away with getting very close to trademarks without consequences. If you launched Aerial or Tyde or something like that in the EU or US, the cease and desist letters would arrive quicker than you could read the label and the court injunction not long after.
In some markets you might get away with getting very close to trademarks without consequences. If you launched Aerial or Tyde or something like that in the EU or US, the cease and desist letters would arrive quicker than you could read the label and the court injunction not long after.
That’s kind of the surprising As all of our Pacific neighbou
Have Tide, Although you can only find it through places such as Costco, Chinese stores, And you can find the Vietnamese stuff through websites
Have Tide, Although you can only find it through places such as Costco, Chinese stores, And you can find the Vietnamese stuff through websites
I recently bought a second bag of Korean tide.
First was great.
Second was a white powder that looked like sugar, sudsy as hell, sucks locked all my machines also left a powdery residue and eve clogged my laundry sink not to mention all the clothes dingy, terrible stain removal and smelling funky.
I'm glad it's over and never again.
Same thing happened with a giant jug of Downy.
Scent was different and disappeared, clothes were soft like sand paper and everything turning blue (i mean, literally stained blue like if I had squirted a bottle of bluing on them)
Since then, I prefer to pay more and get the real thing at Costco.
First was great.
Second was a white powder that looked like sugar, sudsy as hell, sucks locked all my machines also left a powdery residue and eve clogged my laundry sink not to mention all the clothes dingy, terrible stain removal and smelling funky.
I'm glad it's over and never again.
Same thing happened with a giant jug of Downy.
Scent was different and disappeared, clothes were soft like sand paper and everything turning blue (i mean, literally stained blue like if I had squirted a bottle of bluing on them)
Since then, I prefer to pay more and get the real thing at Costco.
I actually brought a second box
Of counterfeit middle eastern tide as the first one had a rip in the bag that contained the powder, I have had good luck with Vietnamese Downy And the scent actually is really good although paying $11 for fabric softener that’s under a litre doesn’t really sound all that good And I’ve kind of been thinking about trying out Vietnamese Tide, and the good thing about the Tidea Is that it hasn’t caused any suds lock even with two scoops in a caravan washing machine
Of counterfeit middle eastern tide as the first one had a rip in the bag that contained the powder, I have had good luck with Vietnamese Downy And the scent actually is really good although paying $11 for fabric softener that’s under a litre doesn’t really sound all that good And I’ve kind of been thinking about trying out Vietnamese Tide, and the good thing about the Tidea Is that it hasn’t caused any suds lock even with two scoops in a caravan washing machine
Oh and I forgot to add
That it’s actually cheaper per litre for me to use my Costco membership to Downy Then it is to To purchase the Vietnamese version from the normal supermarket
That it’s actually cheaper per litre for me to use my Costco membership to Downy Then it is to To purchase the Vietnamese version from the normal supermarket
kenmoreguy89
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Made in China it says big and clear.
For North Africa market.
And it's impressive it made it's way in the United States.
P&G wouldn't be so happy, and I guess the store selling it could also get in trouble.
Even though is Tide-a the graphics are identical to the Famous Brand and that will be considered counterfeit item in every court room.
Classic chinese knock off.
Don't tell the name of the store if they are good folks.
For North Africa market.
And it's impressive it made it's way in the United States.
P&G wouldn't be so happy, and I guess the store selling it could also get in trouble.
Even though is Tide-a the graphics are identical to the Famous Brand and that will be considered counterfeit item in every court room.
Classic chinese knock off.
Don't tell the name of the store if they are good folks.
kenmoreguy89
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Oh wait you are in Australia I didn't read that.
Well tide over there is not a brand so that's why, in the United States it will be a major concern because Tide is the most known brand.
Well tide over there is not a brand so that's why, in the United States it will be a major concern because Tide is the most known brand.
I’d take the Ariel phosphated over the counterfeit Tide any day. Have had good luck with Ariel detergent, and has gotten greasy and oily shop towels all clean and spotless. Might buy Ariel detergent for now on since it’s reasonable and seems to work very well.
kenmoreguy89
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Ain't nobody got TIME for that
LOL
Although funnily enough the counterfeit tide actually cleans really well, it gets all the dirt out of my work shirts With no pre-treatment or pre-wash, bear in mind I’ve always used hot water for the main wash cycle, and that straight hot water not tempered
Although funnily enough the counterfeit tide actually cleans really well, it gets all the dirt out of my work shirts With no pre-treatment or pre-wash, bear in mind I’ve always used hot water for the main wash cycle, and that straight hot water not tempered
I thought about buying some Vietnamese Tide
As I’ve always wondered how well it works because the fabric softener by the P&G in Vietnam seems to smell wonderful
As I’ve always wondered how well it works because the fabric softener by the P&G in Vietnam seems to smell wonderful
sudsmaster
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I dunno. "Tidea" sounds like some new horrid foot fungus...
kenmoreguy89
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Well, the label says that you don't have to use it with chlorine, which it can only mean two things, that is full of percarbonate and TAED, (which is uncommon for a powder from Asia,) or that is full of bluing that would turn rust red with chlorine.
If it is not blue then it means it does have oxygen and is not bad at all.
I only tried one "unknown source" china made powder, and it was Rinso, but it wasn't the actual Rinso of old but the 99cent dollar store private brand.
They purchased the brand license with in USA and everything cleaning related of the 99cent chain had this brand, from sponges to floor ckeaners.
Not impressed with it TBH
I tried in several occasions Chinese Tide and got a very light scent and no Oxygen.
Vietnamese Tide had a more stronger pleasant scent, but again no percarbonate.
But as I was saying that is common for detergents down there as it seems cold washes are the norm hence pointless to add percarbonate.
Omo from Vietnam was the same, but the scent was amazingly good.
Anyway you made me curious to try Tidea as well!!!
If you ever think about a detergent swap with Italy hit me up
If it is not blue then it means it does have oxygen and is not bad at all.
I only tried one "unknown source" china made powder, and it was Rinso, but it wasn't the actual Rinso of old but the 99cent dollar store private brand.
They purchased the brand license with in USA and everything cleaning related of the 99cent chain had this brand, from sponges to floor ckeaners.
Not impressed with it TBH
I tried in several occasions Chinese Tide and got a very light scent and no Oxygen.
Vietnamese Tide had a more stronger pleasant scent, but again no percarbonate.
But as I was saying that is common for detergents down there as it seems cold washes are the norm hence pointless to add percarbonate.
Omo from Vietnam was the same, but the scent was amazingly good.
Anyway you made me curious to try Tidea as well!!!
If you ever think about a detergent swap with Italy hit me up
kenmoreguy89
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Talking about that....
I have used an Italian brand that copied the Tide graphics named Obló (which is the washer glass door in italian), and a Swiss detergent from Rösch group named Taid that is how an Italian, German or French and Spanish would pronounce Tide as in English.
I have used an Italian brand that copied the Tide graphics named Obló (which is the washer glass door in italian), and a Swiss detergent from Rösch group named Taid that is how an Italian, German or French and Spanish would pronounce Tide as in English.
launderess
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Don't know about all of Asia, but laundry detergents with oxygen bleach and activators (usually NOBS) is very popular in Japan.
In that country most laundry is done in cool or cold water and you've never seen such brilliant whites. Addition of oxygen bleach plus activator also helps keep washing machines from developing a whiff, and adds a bit of sanitation action for laundry as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach_activator
In that country most laundry is done in cool or cold water and you've never seen such brilliant whites. Addition of oxygen bleach plus activator also helps keep washing machines from developing a whiff, and adds a bit of sanitation action for laundry as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach_activator
kenmoreguy89
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Yes, Japan is another matter.
In most of other asian countries they often use twin tubs and cold water or their bare hands.
Packets indeed have clear indications for for use by hand on the back.
And just like elsewhere with those washing habits, take for instance Latin America their detergents do not usually contain any oxy bleach.
Unless they are TOL.
Modern Chinese detergents formulated for h axis front loaders that also heats water may be different.
About the whites of Japan must also be said that chlorine is very common.
I don't think you can get much white and stain removal without hot water, and about the whiff in machines products for washing machine cleaning that are popular today were popular much before in Japan and with no surprise.
Americans tend to see Japanese people as extremely clean people, almost to the point of being obsessed..
That is actually a cliché I have never heard in Europe. Sure is they are diligent and cities are very clean, and I like very much the sense of civility, But what happens indoors may be another matter...
I know they also have special ultra scebtef detergents for Landry to be dried indoors, since it would take a bad smell in those drying conditions
In most of other asian countries they often use twin tubs and cold water or their bare hands.
Packets indeed have clear indications for for use by hand on the back.
And just like elsewhere with those washing habits, take for instance Latin America their detergents do not usually contain any oxy bleach.
Unless they are TOL.
Modern Chinese detergents formulated for h axis front loaders that also heats water may be different.
About the whites of Japan must also be said that chlorine is very common.
I don't think you can get much white and stain removal without hot water, and about the whiff in machines products for washing machine cleaning that are popular today were popular much before in Japan and with no surprise.
Americans tend to see Japanese people as extremely clean people, almost to the point of being obsessed..
That is actually a cliché I have never heard in Europe. Sure is they are diligent and cities are very clean, and I like very much the sense of civility, But what happens indoors may be another matter...
I know they also have special ultra scebtef detergents for Landry to be dried indoors, since it would take a bad smell in those drying conditions
kenmoreguy89
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For that matter,the US owned oxiclean is also big in Japan.
Also, I could see they have thousands pre ttwaters, but again, no wonder about that.
Also, I could see they have thousands pre ttwaters, but again, no wonder about that.
kenmoreguy89
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Also about Japan, it appears that many modern homes do actually get hot water for their single fill washing machines by selecting the income temperature on the washing machine tap.
I could see they have these double faucets that they open and close based in their needs
I could see they have these double faucets that they open and close based in their needs
launderess
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"I don't think you can get much white and stain removal without hot water..."
One held same opinion until a few years ago after trying Tide coldwater (free/clear), Persil (USA Henkel), and Persil gel or powder (German versions), along with lately Miele Ultrawhite powder.
Don't do my vintage table linens in hot or boil wash to save wear and tear, and have found all of the above will shift stains and soils quite well at 80F or 100F. For added measure will add a bit of sodium percarbonate or activated Ecolab oxygen bleach when using liquid/gel format, and results are quite satisfactory.
For heavily soiled or stained linens just put them to soak overnight in one of the aforementioned liquid or gel products, next day things are usually quite clean with marks mostly gone. A quick wash in warm or even 80F water with a bit of oxygen bleach takes care of anything remaining.
One held same opinion until a few years ago after trying Tide coldwater (free/clear), Persil (USA Henkel), and Persil gel or powder (German versions), along with lately Miele Ultrawhite powder.
Don't do my vintage table linens in hot or boil wash to save wear and tear, and have found all of the above will shift stains and soils quite well at 80F or 100F. For added measure will add a bit of sodium percarbonate or activated Ecolab oxygen bleach when using liquid/gel format, and results are quite satisfactory.
For heavily soiled or stained linens just put them to soak overnight in one of the aforementioned liquid or gel products, next day things are usually quite clean with marks mostly gone. A quick wash in warm or even 80F water with a bit of oxygen bleach takes care of anything remaining.
kenmoreguy89
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I can see how enzyme laden products such as the ones you mentioned can indeed shift certain stains in cool-warm.
However cold for me is 60F, from 85F starts to be on the warm side.
You know, being a cook and using clothes to do pretty much everything in the kitchen, from drying hands hands after touching something or squeezing parsley juice to make dried garnishing parsley, I do think certain stains or dirts will not budge in cold water ever.
That I think can be especially true for bleachable stains, such as the parsley green mentioned before or red tainted oil from tomato sauce, grease-oils is not the big issue as lipase in modern products is able to break it in lukewarm-warm, same is for many protein or starch stains Thanks to the other enzymes, but the pigments can be quite problematic if no hot water and oxygen is used.
Especially when they sit about a week waiting to have enough stuff to launder.
Also, kitchen stuff takes a very bad odour itself while cooking, even if not that dirty,its a kind of sour smell that will never completely go awayvand will pop out while ironing unless one use at least 140F and a good oxygen detergent.
No matter how much you soak 'em.
I also do not picture yellowed or stuff that sat unused for long to turn white again in cold or cool, of course I'm talking of procedures that never involves LCB or powerful whitening alternative safer products, that does well in cool water as LCB do, such as hydrosulfite which is the whitening option for the woolen garments that won't stand LCB and works great on cottons too (less on synthetics as some reacts turning grey).
However cold for me is 60F, from 85F starts to be on the warm side.
You know, being a cook and using clothes to do pretty much everything in the kitchen, from drying hands hands after touching something or squeezing parsley juice to make dried garnishing parsley, I do think certain stains or dirts will not budge in cold water ever.
That I think can be especially true for bleachable stains, such as the parsley green mentioned before or red tainted oil from tomato sauce, grease-oils is not the big issue as lipase in modern products is able to break it in lukewarm-warm, same is for many protein or starch stains Thanks to the other enzymes, but the pigments can be quite problematic if no hot water and oxygen is used.
Especially when they sit about a week waiting to have enough stuff to launder.
Also, kitchen stuff takes a very bad odour itself while cooking, even if not that dirty,its a kind of sour smell that will never completely go awayvand will pop out while ironing unless one use at least 140F and a good oxygen detergent.
No matter how much you soak 'em.
I also do not picture yellowed or stuff that sat unused for long to turn white again in cold or cool, of course I'm talking of procedures that never involves LCB or powerful whitening alternative safer products, that does well in cool water as LCB do, such as hydrosulfite which is the whitening option for the woolen garments that won't stand LCB and works great on cottons too (less on synthetics as some reacts turning grey).
Kenmoreguy89
I’ll have a look and see what colour it changes when I add bleach, also what is TAED?
I’ll have a look and see what colour it changes when I add bleach, also what is TAED?
kenmoreguy89
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TAED is an oxygen activator, like NOBS Launderess linked a Wikipedia page of.
NOBS works in slightly cooler water, Taed a little hotter.
TAED is more common in Europe, while in USA and parts of Asia.
Guess in Australia there are both
NOBS works in slightly cooler water, Taed a little hotter.
TAED is more common in Europe, while in USA and parts of Asia.
Guess in Australia there are both
launderess
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"I also do not picture yellowed or stuff that sat unused for long to turn white again in cold or cool"
Given long enough contact time a good long soak with either sodium perborate or sodium percarbonate will lighten if not remove yellow from textiles. This is one of the tricks used by those who restore vintage linens. Professional/industrial laundries and dry cleaners have long know this,going back to the 1920's or so.
It isn't that oxygen bleaches totally stop working in cool or cold water, just the reaction time is far slower. Depending upon what one is after this can be a benefit rather than negative.
Given long enough contact time a good long soak with either sodium perborate or sodium percarbonate will lighten if not remove yellow from textiles. This is one of the tricks used by those who restore vintage linens. Professional/industrial laundries and dry cleaners have long know this,going back to the 1920's or so.
It isn't that oxygen bleaches totally stop working in cool or cold water, just the reaction time is far slower. Depending upon what one is after this can be a benefit rather than negative.
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