Time To Stop Reheating Foods In Microwave

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Re: Reply#4

Joe, I reheat pasta the same way as you do in the MW. I frequently cook enough for 2 to 4 days dinners when I make certain things that are best prepared in larger amounts. I then portion out the leftovers on dinner plates and cover them with MW plate covers and put them in the fridge.

Then for dinner the next day(s) I reheat the plates the same way as you describe in your post. By using 50% power and allowing a 3-5 min rest and then giving the covered plates another 30 to 60 sec on 100% power the reheated food tastes just like it did the first night. Thanksgiving dinner leftovers are especially good reheated this way, they taste just like the first nights dinner.

The reason people have rubbery reheated leftovers is because they don’t use their MW properly. They just slap the food in the MW, press one of the preset buttons and they end up dissatisfied with the results.

I’ve been using a MW since ‘85 when we got our first Amana Radar range MW. There are some things that I will never make on the stove top again as long as I have a MW. Things like white sauces, puddings and pie fillings can’t be beat when using the MW to make them. No danger of scorching, no constant stirring, no lumps, perfect velvety smooth sauces and puddings. Its all in the technique.

When MW’s first started to become widely popular in the early 80’s there were several cooking shows on TV that were dedicated to using your MW for cooking, not just reheating. There was a wealth of knowledge to be obtained from some of these shows.

Eddie
 
Ditched it in 2011.
MVs kill the vitamins and nutrients so it's like, what's the point of preparing food?

Yes, cooking or reheating in a conventional oven takes longer but I'm worth it.

What's even more scary is food cooked in a MV using either plastic containers or a paperboard container with a plastic coating. The plastic changes form as it's warmed and leaches chemicals that mix with the food.

MVs also give off EMFs when running.

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Microwaving is less likely to destroy nutrients in foods than conventional cooking methods. It is true though that one should be careful about the kinds of covers and containers, particularly plastics, that are used in the microwave to prevent leaching of chemicals into the foods.

See the link from Harvard Health below. Also if one does a search about this topic there are several articles online that also debunk the myth about microwave cooking adversely effecting the nutritional value of foods prepared in them.

Eddie

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/ask-the-doctor-microwaves-impact-on-food
 
Cooking always leads to loss of vitamins of nutrients, no matter what method you use. There is nothing magical about a microwave, it's exactly the same as cooking in an oven or a pot. When heating food, the molecules get in motion in the same way. Cooking veggies in a microwave in a minimum of water (I sometimes only use a few drops to prevent the food from drying out) saves more vitamins and nutrients than boiling them in a pot with water. Because the cooking time is shorter in a microwave, less of the good stuff is "killed".
 
I've been using my MW since fall 1977. Cooking frozen veggies and some fresh.

If I have to cook something new for a meal, I don't know what that will be until I am at that point. So everything stays in the freezers. So drefrosting meats. Also, cook in bulk and freeze in storage containers. I MW individual portions just enough to loosen from sides of plastic containers and then always thaw and reheat in pyrex/glass containers.

Ted will pull something from the freezer and let it sit out on the counter for a few hours. I don't believe in that, it's too risky as far as I'm concerned.

I rarely use full power, mostly medium low to medium high, just like dryng laundry.
 
Of course there will be "mythbusters" paid for by the food industry who has a food product line to protect. They will try and down play the facts, we've seen it before. They'll hope people forget the truth.

Yes, cooking can destroy vits and nutrients but cooking in a conventional oven is the opposite of cooking in a micro. with the outcome hoping to be the same. ... but it never is.

A micro cooks from the INSIDE of the food with the heat working it's way out. A conventional oven or stove top cooks from the OUTSIDE working the heat in. That's why micros leave food rubbery. They blast the inside and the outside stays more firm.
Whereas conventional cooking can brown food and potentially leave the inside uncooked or under cooked. No MV browns food.

With conventional you have more control because as soon as one removes the heat source, the product stops cooking.

With MV there so much heat INSIDE that it really can be dangerous, like the exploding potato, hotdog, or any other MV'd food item that's been in for too long.

With food, the nutrients are INSIDE because once a food surface is exposed to air the nutrients start degrading so the last place anyone should apply heat is to the INSIDE of the food.

It's like sauteeing a stir-fry. Throw the veg into the wok, shuffle them around for a minute or so to get the outsides seered and eat up for a nutritious meal.
VS.
rubbery veg that was in the MV, in a plastic coated box and now have ZERO nutritional value (and probably lots of salt to make it palatable)
 
 
Eliminate use of microwave oven?  Nope, not happening here.

As others have stated above, I often reheat at lower power levels both for better results and to avoid the explosions and boil-overs.

My daily instant oatmeal is done at 30% power for example, then a few cocktail/breakfast sausages in the same bowl at 30%.

I often cook box pasta salad via microwave in an 8-cup mixing bowl.  It's essentially a hydration process so takes the same time but eliminates a separate pot on the stove.  Cook in the mixing bowl, drain in a sieve, cool the bowl under running water and mix in it (adding chicken and/or more veggies), then store the remainder in the same bowl.

Baked potatoes and other fresh (asparagus!) or frozen veggies.  Pasta Roni with tuna added.  Occasionally fresh fish.  Scrambled egg in a mug (with bits of turkey or ham luncheon meat and cheese added).  Zatarains Jambalaya with sausage or chicken added.  Yesterday evening a package of chicken/cream cheese tamales with green enchilada sauce and cheese atop, several mins at high then reduce to 50%.

I don't often defrost via microwave, although I may start briefly at the standard defrost 30% then reduce to 20% or 10% power for a longer time when I do so.  My GE Arctica refrigerator has a Custom Cool drawer with a defrost function, although of course that requires planning ahead (6-hr cycle for 1 lb).
 
One other thing that the MW is great for is softening butter to use in baking , spreading on toast or bread or whatever.

Place 1 stick for hard butter out of the fridge in the MW and nuke it at 10% power for 1 min. If its still not soft enough nuke for another 10-15 secs at 10% power. I’ve been doing this since ‘87 and it never fails. Perfectly softened butter in a flash when you’ve forgotten to take the butter out to soften on the counter and you’re in a hurry to get something in the oven and baked.

Eddie
 
#12

Remember what was just said about the dirty, paid for "mythbusters" and the counter to reality stories those groups create. Of course they would put out PR claiming that micros don't destroy the most precious part of the food.

Truth:
One can actively see foods like butter being cooked or melted FROM THE INSIDE when placed in a MV. As butter melts a hole will develop through the butter from the heat before the stick turns totally to liquid.

And yes, a MV will soften a refrig. stick of butter in about 7 seconds. It can only do that if its cooking from the INSIDE.

If I put a stick of butter in a hot pan for 7 seconds, what will I get? A stick of butter, mostly still hard with one melted side and a 1/4" of that side that is now soft, but the rest will still be hard. That's because the heat is coming from the OUTSIDE.
Hello.

Those dirty, dirty propagandist myth creators.
 
There was a time when cigarette companies tried to pretend their products were healthy and desirable.

One can see movies and television bits from the 40s and 50s where an actor playing the part of doctor comes out of an operating room with a cigarette (OMG!) in his mouth. AHHHHHH are you freaking kidding?!!!! Totally gross and disgusting.
That's propaganda.

They were encouraging pregnant women to smoke when pregnant. OM-Fing-G! Crazy

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There was a time when Cocaine was sold over the counter. No big deal right? AHHHH

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There was a time when DDT was erroneously looked on as a miracle chemical and sprayed about liberally with no thought of damages.

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There was a time when republicans marketed themselves as moral and upright. They don't even try and lie about that anymore. We all know just how counter to reality that is.
It's is/was propaganda.
 
That report about reheating in a microwave

Is BS, people don’t know how to use their microwave if they’re getting rubbery food out of it.

I get beautiful results reheating in the microwave. I love using my Thermidor combination wall oven. It gives beautiful results. You set the temperature of the oven to about 140. You put three or four different food items on a dinner plate and you microwave with the appropriate power the results are wonderful you don’t have to cover anything either because if something does splatter it’s in a self cleaning oven.

Microwave ovens are not going away, it’s one of the safest kitchen appliances ever used. The chance of an injury is minuscule

And nobody has ever been hurt by microwave energy using a microwave oven. It does not affect the food either.

John.
 
Re: Reply#17

John, I agree with you 100%! Those that don’t know how to use a MW oven properly are the ones that end up with dried out and rubbery food.

And as for the reply#15 claim that the “mythbusters” are working for some big corp to sell something, well I highly doubt that Harvard’s Health Dept. is trying to sell something.

If you don’t like MW’s, then don’t use one. I’ve been using a MW oven daily several times a day for over 37 years with no ill effects.

A MW is like a TV to me. When ever I’ve had either a TV or MW break down, I head right down to the nearest store that very day and buy a new one to replace the broken one.

Eddie
 
 

<span style="font-family: 'American Typewriter', serif;">I am no microwave expert, nor am I am engineer.  I don’t know if it cooks from the inside out or outside in.  I have googled it a few times and all the articles that come up support what the lady says from America’s Test Kitchen which is it cooks from the outside in.</span>

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<span style="font-family: 'American Typewriter', serif;">Here is what I do know.  I prefer foods heated in the oven or stovetop when I have the time to do it that way.  I feel like the food stays hot longer and I feel like the food is heated all the way through without destroying what is being reheated.  That’s not to say you can’t successfully reheat items in the MW without destroying them.  You can, so when I am in a hurry, I’ll use the MW it’s just not my preference.  I use it more for popcorn than anything else if I really think about how/when I use it.  </span>

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<span style="font-family: 'American Typewriter', serif;">Eddie is right, it’s like anything else you need to know what you’re doing.  You can destroy a plate of food in both devices if you’re not careful.  I have tried many times to soften butter in the MW.  Even when using the Soften button.  Every time has been a disaster but after reading Eddie’s process, I will try it again and I bet it will work.  I often forget to take the butter out in advance when I am baking.</span>

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<span style="font-family: 'American Typewriter', serif;">I don’t see MWs going anywhere anytime soon unless they can prove it is damaging to our health.  If that were the case I think we would have known about it long before now.</span>

 
Way back in the mid '70s when microwave ovens for home use weren't yet ubiquitous, my dad brought home a re-badged Tappan from -- wait for it -- Montgomery Ward, and one of the first things we used it for was reheating leftovers.  We all agreed that the microwave method was infinitely superior to using a stove top or conventional oven.  The dinner of leftovers tasted like it had been freshly made.  So like John, I call BS on most of this article.

 

One thing I do agree with is that pizza needs to steer clear of any microwave.  I put slices on a flat nonstick griddle, cover it loosely, and heat on low for about ten minutes.  It's ready when you can smell it, or if you're close enough to hear the toppings sizzling.  The crust is crisp as opposed to soggy.  I won't reheat pizza any other way.

 

A lot of today's microwaves offer a reheat option.  These tend to work well, but results can vary depending on what you're reheating.  Panasonic's "Sensor Reheat" option was my go-to when we had that microwave for ten years.  Punch two buttons and walk away.  My GE OTR microwave requires going through a nearly unreadable menu to reheat and it's not as reliable as the Panasonic was.  It was here when we moved in.  It just went dead last week and I'm looking into options that include repair, but if I can find another make that will fit, I'll happily dump the GE.  In the meantime, I'm enjoying a Panasonic similar to the one we used to have.  I found it on the Nextdoor classifieds for $10 and it's a joy to use compared to the GE, but at the cost of valuable counter space.

 

That article is more like an opinion piece.  I can't imagine life without a microwave, and there is no way an air fryer is anywhere near as versatile or convenient.
 
Re: Replies #14 and 19

Ralph,
One last thing about using the MW to soften butter. If you need two sticks of butter softened for a recipe calling for 1 cup of soft butter, but both sticks end to end on the floor of the MW and set it at 10% power for 1 min.

Then at the end of 1 min turn each stick over to the opposite side and opposite ends together and set for an additional 30 secs at 10% power. Repeat if butter isn’t soft enough. The most important step to this is ALWAYS use 10% power for softening butter and use smaller increments of time after the first 1 min until you get the butter to the degree of softness you require.

This always works like a charm.

Eddie
 
When I bought my first Sharp microwave in 1990, the big name on public TV was Donovan Jon Fandre, the "Microwave Master." The microwave is the most used appliance in my kitchen. Gave up on actually cooking food, but it's great to reheat everything.

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One reason to use a microwave to reheat foods is that it's probably more energy efficient than methods other than using a gas oven or burner. Nearly all the energy goes into the food being re-heated, rather than into the air as with an electric oven. A gas oven uses the same heated air method as an electric oven, but electricity used to heat an electric oven is probably in most cases more expensive than gas used to heat a gas oven. Whether a gas oven is cheaper for reheating foods than a microwave probably depends on your gas and electric rates. And, of course, in the winter, whatever energy is used to reheat food in an oven, can go back into the house.

 

In the summer, it's probably more of an expense if the AC has to kick in to cool the interior air. Here in the SF Bay Area, where in the summer there's often a cooling evening sea breeze, I just open the windows and use a fan as needed.  At present I don't have a gas oven hooked up (other than the BBQ outdoors). I do have an old Modern Maid gas range that I'm planning to use to replace the electric Frigidaire range in the patio kitchen.

 

Some day.

 

 
 
My 1st bf had just remodeled his kitchen when we met in 98 and beside his KA Superba that was incredibly quiet, he also had a black above the range GE microwave.
I was sold on both and went out and bought a new TOL GE bisque micro with a favorite program button. Of course it had a turn table and a plug in probe.

To melt butter I remember just setting the dish with cold butter in there and pushing the 7 button (if I remember right) and it instantly started and gave perfectly softened, but not melted, butter.

I used the program button for heating a cup of water for oatmeal. I think it was 1:35.... not sure.

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But no more micros for me.

I would choose to have a gas stove again before I would allow a micro in the house, and you know how I, and many others, feel about gas appliances.
But I wouldn't unfriend a person or not date a person if they had a micro where as there are so many things that would get a person disqualified from those two activities.

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Microwaves penetrate food to a depth of generally 1 to 1.5 inches.  The rest of the food mass heats via conduction.  Thus the full mass of a slice of bacon or pizza gets heated ... but a roast or casserole involves some surface-to-interior conduction.  Microwave energy hits the food surfaces from all directions, including both sides and top at corners of a square or rectangular dish.  It's sometimes advised to shield the corners of a dish with pieces of aluminum foil to avoid overcooking those areas (brownies, cake, etc.).

Microwaves aren't sufficiently energetic to break chemical bonds, ionize molecules, or damage DNA.  Heat is generated by inducing vibration/motion of dipolar molecules (aligning with the oscillating magnetic field), primarily water but also some mild effect on fats and sugar.  Bodily injury can be caused by the heating, not by ionization or damage to DNA.  The lens and cornea of the eye are particularly vulnerable to injury from heat damage that can cause a cataract effect.  I've read advisories to always pause a running microwave oven before opening it to avoid even momentary exposure to the microwave energy, although it travels at literally the speed of light so seems any residual energy after the door interlocks trigger would be absorbed by the food before the door is open enough for any of it to escape.

Microwaves are a frequency range of 300 Mhz to 300 Ghz on the electromagnetic spectrum, between radio waves and infrared.  Microwave ovens operate on a frequency of 2.45 Ghz.  Infrared, visible light, ultraviolet, x-ray, and gamma rays are higher on the spectrum.

Microwaves are sometimes considered a type of radio wave and can be focused into a beam for use in point-to-point communications.  Satellite TV systems, WiFi, Bluetooth, and cell phones all operate within the microwave range of frequencies.
 
RE: Reply #20

Likewise, my folks got a Tappan Microwave in the late 1960s and were most impressed with the way it reheated foods.  I've always had a microwave in my own kitchen, and when Chris and I moved to our former apartment in Montreal, we bought a brand-new stainless steel front model to match the other appliances.  I stopped using it pretty quickly, finding that it didn't seem to reheat things as nicely as a honking big early 1980s Admiral we had at our weekend home.   I'm back to using an RR4D at the house in St-Liboire and a 1976 Bélanger (made by Tappan) in Ogden - I still use it for reheating successfully and do occasionally cook vegetables, sauces, pie fillings, and soups in it, also successfully. 

I'm wondering if the higher power levels of the newer models may have something to do with the reheating performance.   I recall the modern microwave we had claimed an output power of 1000 watts, while I'm pretty sure the Tappan, for example, is only cooking at 650 or maybe 700 watts. 
 
Unlike most here I actually cook in my microwave.  Chicken leg quarters, wings and such - when I want a quick meal.  Nothing serious, but a bit of BBQ sauce on wings or legs and 8 or 9 minutes later I have dinner.  When I have a bit more time I use convection roast which adds 30% microwave to heat and makes a very moist tender chicken.

 

Most of the time I do my veg's in the microwave and reheat.  I'm anxious to try some chicken or fries in the AF as some of the stuff might time out close to the MW but with better results. I prefer to cook fresh daily but don't want to spend an hour doing it.

 

 
 
@whitewhiskers

I remember Mr. Fandre. In fact, I watched every one of his episodes that was televised in the mid-late 1980s???? In fact, one of the products he used was a stacked Rubbermade cookware set. Last week I used two piecs of the set-the collander and the 3 qt. pan to cook some ground beef that was going into some soup I was going to make. I just did not feel like standing over the stove browining the gronnd meat and then draining the rendered fat from said meat. All I had to do was crumble the ground beef into the collander, cook it in the microwave for about 6 minutes, and put it in the soup pot with all the other ingredients. Tem pour the grease into a container to be thrown out with the trash. Made life so much easier.
 
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