TODAYS WASHER-DRYER Combo
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LG makes a washer/dryer combo that's "full size". But it only uses 120v to dry, not like the POD WP electric with 240v. So drying is very slow. Modern combos (both the LG and European models) allow you to wash a full load but one must remove 1/2 of the load in order for it to dry properly and relatively wrinkle-free. The combos of the 1950s (WP, Bendix, GE, Kenmore) were such that the user manual specifically stated to place no more the about 1/2 of the drum full of clothing before turning it on. Thus, allowing-all-in-one process without having to remove half the load as is required for modern machines.
dj-gabriele
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ut one must remove 1/2 of the load in order for it to dry pr
Actually most if not all modern machines are able to handle 2/3 of the full load in the drying cycle with an exception of a Candy, model CLD135 that did a 5+5 kg cycle having a larger than standard drum, emulating the older American combos.
Most of the EU manufacturer produce washer-dryers, the most common variant is the water condensed type, while BSH group has a model with air condensor but it's totally made in China and I coudln't ever suggest it as I avoid Chinese made stuff and when I tried a Bosch W/D it actually baked my clothes!
Most popular washer-dryers are integrated as are installed in small spaces and don't require venting, but are also commonplace in free standing variants.
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Modern manufacturers (in Europe) are:
(Ita) Indesit Group (Ariston, Indesit, Hotpoint, Scholtes, Creda, etc...) with a large market share, especially in Italy and the UK (33%), selling in the US as Ariston.
(Ita) Candy Group (Candy, Hoover, Iberna, Rosieres, Zerowatt and others).
(Esp) Grupo Fagor (Sangiorgio, Brandt, De Dietrich, Fagor), also the only producers of EU top loading washer-dryers and since the Candy drop out stand alone top loading dryers.
(Ger) BSH (Siemens, Bosch, Neff, Constructa)
(Ita) Antonio Merloni (now with a different owner) used to produce many brands and even for third parts like Whirlpool W/D. In the usa as Equator and Splendide Combomatic (even if some units were Indesit and not A.M.)
(Ita) SMEG (under their own name) and many integrated models for Hotpoint, Whirlpool and others (there is an interesting thread here about the many faces of SMEG integrated combo in most of the European names!)
As far as I know Gorenje (Slo) sources its integrated W/D from SMEG as does Whirlpool.
(Ger) Miele also has a washer-dryer but it's outrageously expensive and doesn't dry very well despite having a real humidity sensor in the door like the SMEG ones (others relying on temperature probes).
Other than this also Asians produce washer-dryers with various levels of quality and functionality, of course as a good citizen I won't put my hands over something not made here in the Union!
Actually most if not all modern machines are able to handle 2/3 of the full load in the drying cycle with an exception of a Candy, model CLD135 that did a 5+5 kg cycle having a larger than standard drum, emulating the older American combos.
Most of the EU manufacturer produce washer-dryers, the most common variant is the water condensed type, while BSH group has a model with air condensor but it's totally made in China and I coudln't ever suggest it as I avoid Chinese made stuff and when I tried a Bosch W/D it actually baked my clothes!
Most popular washer-dryers are integrated as are installed in small spaces and don't require venting, but are also commonplace in free standing variants.
:
Modern manufacturers (in Europe) are:
(Ita) Indesit Group (Ariston, Indesit, Hotpoint, Scholtes, Creda, etc...) with a large market share, especially in Italy and the UK (33%), selling in the US as Ariston.
(Ita) Candy Group (Candy, Hoover, Iberna, Rosieres, Zerowatt and others).
(Esp) Grupo Fagor (Sangiorgio, Brandt, De Dietrich, Fagor), also the only producers of EU top loading washer-dryers and since the Candy drop out stand alone top loading dryers.
(Ger) BSH (Siemens, Bosch, Neff, Constructa)
(Ita) Antonio Merloni (now with a different owner) used to produce many brands and even for third parts like Whirlpool W/D. In the usa as Equator and Splendide Combomatic (even if some units were Indesit and not A.M.)
(Ita) SMEG (under their own name) and many integrated models for Hotpoint, Whirlpool and others (there is an interesting thread here about the many faces of SMEG integrated combo in most of the European names!)
As far as I know Gorenje (Slo) sources its integrated W/D from SMEG as does Whirlpool.
(Ger) Miele also has a washer-dryer but it's outrageously expensive and doesn't dry very well despite having a real humidity sensor in the door like the SMEG ones (others relying on temperature probes).
Other than this also Asians produce washer-dryers with various levels of quality and functionality, of course as a good citizen I won't put my hands over something not made here in the Union!
glenfieldmathk1
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Siemens produce a washer dryer that is made in EU which saves water, as it uses no water during drying, as it condenses. The IQ700 features Siemens Auto stain removal and Super silent magnetic motor the IQ drive.
Only thing I would say though is drying in a washing machine takes longer, as you have to run 2 loads, as there isn't much space in the drum, and it can take up to 3hrs to dry just one load, hardly practical is is.
Only thing I would say though is drying in a washing machine takes longer, as you have to run 2 loads, as there isn't much space in the drum, and it can take up to 3hrs to dry just one load, hardly practical is is.
In The United States
Asko and a few others sell combo W&D units. IIRC all to a one are rebranded and or rejiggered European units. *Think* Fagor sold or is selling a 220v combo W&D unit but don't quote me on that.
Historically there was Malber, Equator, Splendide (sp?),Thor and a few others that offered combo units here, mostly for urban living and or special space issues such as RVs/campers.
Again IIRC all these units ran on 120v power which gave the dryers very weak heating power. Stand alone condenser dryers in Europe have electric heating power starting at around 3kW, and even then take longer than vented dryers to get things done.
The other problem is most of the units sold in the USA are water cooled condensers. This means one can use quite allot of water (sometimes more than was used for the washing and rinsing), to dry a load of clothing.
Know more than a few persons here in NYC that had Malber or Equator combo units. Most sooner or later gave up using the drying portion and opted for one of those small/compact 120v vented dryers instead. Those small vented dryers often could dry larger loads than the combo unit and did so faster and used less energy.
Asko and a few others sell combo W&D units. IIRC all to a one are rebranded and or rejiggered European units. *Think* Fagor sold or is selling a 220v combo W&D unit but don't quote me on that.
Historically there was Malber, Equator, Splendide (sp?),Thor and a few others that offered combo units here, mostly for urban living and or special space issues such as RVs/campers.
Again IIRC all these units ran on 120v power which gave the dryers very weak heating power. Stand alone condenser dryers in Europe have electric heating power starting at around 3kW, and even then take longer than vented dryers to get things done.
The other problem is most of the units sold in the USA are water cooled condensers. This means one can use quite allot of water (sometimes more than was used for the washing and rinsing), to dry a load of clothing.
Know more than a few persons here in NYC that had Malber or Equator combo units. Most sooner or later gave up using the drying portion and opted for one of those small/compact 120v vented dryers instead. Those small vented dryers often could dry larger loads than the combo unit and did so faster and used less energy.
cfz2882
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wash vs dry ratings
my 115v water condensing splendide combo is rated at 11LB wash, 8LB dry
my 115v water condensing splendide combo is rated at 11LB wash, 8LB dry
