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My goodness Leslie. Of courwse, I want to know what all were the soils in that load, particularly the crockpot, the corning 10' skillet looking dish, as well as the rest of the pans and skllet. I odn't think mine will be near that "crowded" tonight, although I've been doing some cooking today. We've had that discussion about crockpot liners not easily coming clean in the dishwasher.
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Oh good! That's how a dishwasher should look like when started 
I hope all came clean nicely!
I hope all came clean nicely!
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after:
Lower rack:
everything is clean. The crockpot liner had residue from a chuck (pot) roast. Basically cooked on meat juices. The frying pan was used to brown the roast before slow cooking, so it had cooked on meat juices. The saucepan was used for mashed potatoes. You can see streaks or film on the pan, does not appear to be food residue, but heat tint.
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after:
Lower rack:
everything is clean. The crockpot liner had residue from a chuck (pot) roast. Basically cooked on meat juices. The frying pan was used to brown the roast before slow cooking, so it had cooked on meat juices. The saucepan was used for mashed potatoes. You can see streaks or film on the pan, does not appear to be food residue, but heat tint.
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results; everything clean up here:
Corning ware casserole was used to prepare creamed spinach. The saucepan had beef gravy cooked with Wondra flour for thickening. The sieve strained the gravy and was coated with beef bits, flour & gravy.
results; everything clean up here:
Corning ware casserole was used to prepare creamed spinach. The saucepan had beef gravy cooked with Wondra flour for thickening. The sieve strained the gravy and was coated with beef bits, flour & gravy.
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at the filters. They stay acceptably clean with scraped and mostly unrinsed dishloads. Excess amounts of loose food residue gets scraped off. We only rinse large amounts of tomato sauces. There can be the occasional bit of solid food that will be trapped in the coarse strainer. I.E. Lima bean, potato peel etc.
at the filters. They stay acceptably clean with scraped and mostly unrinsed dishloads. Excess amounts of loose food residue gets scraped off. We only rinse large amounts of tomato sauces. There can be the occasional bit of solid food that will be trapped in the coarse strainer. I.E. Lima bean, potato peel etc.
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Nice quality cookware M.C.!
Is this a Bob-load?
Is this a Bob-load?
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What are the oddss that the lower spray-arm would end nthe positon ("on the clock") where it started? LOL
The heating element was replaced to to a recall. @$$-wipe repariman didnt know that portables are encased in a botomless shell. I had to TELL him.
What are the oddss that the lower spray-arm would end nthe positon ("on the clock") where it started? LOL
The heating element was replaced to to a recall. @$$-wipe repariman didnt know that portables are encased in a botomless shell. I had to TELL him.
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Lots to love about the tiered Maytag upper rack and the convenience of being able to load oversized items up top and that 13 x 9 baking pan and large cutting board along the outside edge of lower rack. Plus the centrally located flatware basket make sure your silver gets scrubbed from all sides. Very nice!
Lots to love about the tiered Maytag upper rack and the convenience of being able to load oversized items up top and that 13 x 9 baking pan and large cutting board along the outside edge of lower rack. Plus the centrally located flatware basket make sure your silver gets scrubbed from all sides. Very nice!
I'm always amazed at the American(?) tradition of loading baking pans etc. upright - as if they were plates! One would assume these deep items don't come out clean as water only sprays up and down, not sideways.
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Toggles...
I have that same Maytag design, and no way would it clean as well as yours. Those standing Pyrex casseroles and baking pan would have to lean in my machine. I have a similar cutting board, loaded just as yours, that emerged with tomato seeds stuck to the top. I use Heavy Wash with Hi-Temp option and Heated Dry, trying all brands of detergents.
I now have yibbles adhering to the door where it meets the right-hand side of the upper rack. And a sludge residue accumulates under the door as well. All dishes are scraped, and run daily. I check to ensure there is plenty of hot water in the tub, and both arms move freely.
The Maytag is about 3 years old. It replaced a Kitchen-Aid that was also 3 years old when the pump failed. This Maytag in no way compares with the far-superior tower-design Maytag I had in another house about 8 years ago. I think the next machine will be a BOL with a knob, and i'll just wash the dishes before loading like my Mother did.
George
I have that same Maytag design, and no way would it clean as well as yours. Those standing Pyrex casseroles and baking pan would have to lean in my machine. I have a similar cutting board, loaded just as yours, that emerged with tomato seeds stuck to the top. I use Heavy Wash with Hi-Temp option and Heated Dry, trying all brands of detergents.
I now have yibbles adhering to the door where it meets the right-hand side of the upper rack. And a sludge residue accumulates under the door as well. All dishes are scraped, and run daily. I check to ensure there is plenty of hot water in the tub, and both arms move freely.
The Maytag is about 3 years old. It replaced a Kitchen-Aid that was also 3 years old when the pump failed. This Maytag in no way compares with the far-superior tower-design Maytag I had in another house about 8 years ago. I think the next machine will be a BOL with a knob, and i'll just wash the dishes before loading like my Mother did.
George
BOSCH AND OTHER EUROPEAN DISHWASHERS
Are all much too small inside you would never get the size load pictured in them. Otherwise the new WP built machines with the filter probably aren't any better than the European machines, except that at least they can be repaired in place. I will never install another machine that has a filter that holds food residue in the machine that the final rinse water flows through. Even my 1984 KA KDSS-20 always smells a little musty-stale when you first open it in the morning compared to the 1987 WP power Clean machine. Its not that I am lazy but why have a machine that you have to keep disassembling and cleaning when this machine does a beautiful job packed full of really dirty dishes in less than an hour. Its needed only a new inlet valve in 23 years and has never needed any type of cleaning inside.
Are all much too small inside you would never get the size load pictured in them. Otherwise the new WP built machines with the filter probably aren't any better than the European machines, except that at least they can be repaired in place. I will never install another machine that has a filter that holds food residue in the machine that the final rinse water flows through. Even my 1984 KA KDSS-20 always smells a little musty-stale when you first open it in the morning compared to the 1987 WP power Clean machine. Its not that I am lazy but why have a machine that you have to keep disassembling and cleaning when this machine does a beautiful job packed full of really dirty dishes in less than an hour. Its needed only a new inlet valve in 23 years and has never needed any type of cleaning inside.
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Did some cake
baking; lower rack not too heavily loaded:
baking; lower rack not too heavily loaded:
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baking continued; upper rack
baking continued; upper rack
Toggles it passes as a BobLoad. I see enough food soil on the roaster pan alone.
American(?) tradition of loading baking pans etc. upright -
Alexander, I wouldn't know how to do it any other way. I think that's one of the differences between American and foreign dishwashers. Can still do it with my tall tub Kenmore Elite (whirlpool), but did that even moreso with my old GE Potscrubber and resuolts were stellar.
Alexander, I wouldn't know how to do it any other way. I think that's one of the differences between American and foreign dishwashers. Can still do it with my tall tub Kenmore Elite (whirlpool), but did that even moreso with my old GE Potscrubber and resuolts were stellar.
I'm impressed.
Maybe it's a hard water issue, but I have never, with any dishwasher I've ever owned, including my beloved KDI-21 or the current "steam powered" Thermador, had a crock pot liner come out perfectly clean, even when aimed straight down on the bottom rack.
I also don't get results like Steve did with a roasting pan standing on its side. They have to be at least tilted, and for sure have completely unobstructed spraying action from the wash arm.
Maybe it's a hard water issue, but I have never, with any dishwasher I've ever owned, including my beloved KDI-21 or the current "steam powered" Thermador, had a crock pot liner come out perfectly clean, even when aimed straight down on the bottom rack.
I also don't get results like Steve did with a roasting pan standing on its side. They have to be at least tilted, and for sure have completely unobstructed spraying action from the wash arm.
Filters...
I have a german whirlpool , and it has self cleaning filters.
I only clean it once a month or 2 months , because it is always clean
hmm , I know the europeans are a bit smaller , but I think they clean better than the americans
I have a german whirlpool , and it has self cleaning filters.
I only clean it once a month or 2 months , because it is always clean
hmm , I know the europeans are a bit smaller , but I think they clean better than the americans
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Our two year old Maytag cleans very well. We never have any left over bits anywhere inside it. And we never rinse the dishes or pots/pans first.
How hot is the water going into your machine, and do you have Hi Temp Wash selected?
How hot is the water going into your machine, and do you have Hi Temp Wash selected?
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most cooked, baked & dried on food soils, stains and films are sucessfully washed away with no manual intervention. I think it can be attributed to the main wash cycle time of nearly an hour in this machine and good detergent.
The crock pot liner really was not that heavily soiled. No starchy type soils involved. It was just cooked on fatty film of beef broth. When heavy starch residue is involved, often; the liner emerges with a 'haze' that requires additional hand cleaning. Liquid Bar Keeepers Friend on a sponge wipes the remaining film away quite easily. It also works great to brighten up discolored stainless steel.
most cooked, baked & dried on food soils, stains and films are sucessfully washed away with no manual intervention. I think it can be attributed to the main wash cycle time of nearly an hour in this machine and good detergent.
The crock pot liner really was not that heavily soiled. No starchy type soils involved. It was just cooked on fatty film of beef broth. When heavy starch residue is involved, often; the liner emerges with a 'haze' that requires additional hand cleaning. Liquid Bar Keeepers Friend on a sponge wipes the remaining film away quite easily. It also works great to brighten up discolored stainless steel.
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Whirlcool...
A thermometer is on Santa's list, but the water is scalding to the touch, and the water heater is set beyond the "normal" position. I do use the "Hi-Temp Wash", so it seems that should compensate as well.
Have you ever noticed a line of residue hidden beneath the door? Take a paper towel and give it a wipe to see. Tonight, I will exercise the "Sanitize" option and see if there's a difference. Chances are, it will still be running when I awake tomorrow morning.
George
A thermometer is on Santa's list, but the water is scalding to the touch, and the water heater is set beyond the "normal" position. I do use the "Hi-Temp Wash", so it seems that should compensate as well.
Have you ever noticed a line of residue hidden beneath the door? Take a paper towel and give it a wipe to see. Tonight, I will exercise the "Sanitize" option and see if there's a difference. Chances are, it will still be running when I awake tomorrow morning.
George
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"BOSCH AND OTHER EUROPEAN DISHWASHERS
Are all much too small inside you would never get the size load pictured in them. Otherwise the new WP built machines with the filter probably aren't any better than the European machines, except that at least they can be repaired in place. I will never install another machine that has a filter that holds food residue in the machine that the final rinse water flows through"
Lol. Can easily fit tonnes into European dishwashers, easily similar amounts to what's pictured in threads on here, and again theres is that myth that filters hold residues for eternity. The design of filters in European dishwashers is so that it filters the water during recirculation, but once the water is drained out, the residue is drained out along with the rinse water, only leaving coarse food remains which shouldn't be there in the first place if one scrapes. The final rinse is done with nothing but clean, hot water.
For whatever it's worth, I've never had a dishwasher that smells stale either if you open it in the morning, unless obviously it's had dirty dishes in it festering for god knows how long. Not just that but filters aren't forever being cleaned out... I did my parents last time I was there for what must have been the first time in 6 months perhaps more and there was nothing in there except for a chicken bone.
Jon
Are all much too small inside you would never get the size load pictured in them. Otherwise the new WP built machines with the filter probably aren't any better than the European machines, except that at least they can be repaired in place. I will never install another machine that has a filter that holds food residue in the machine that the final rinse water flows through"
Lol. Can easily fit tonnes into European dishwashers, easily similar amounts to what's pictured in threads on here, and again theres is that myth that filters hold residues for eternity. The design of filters in European dishwashers is so that it filters the water during recirculation, but once the water is drained out, the residue is drained out along with the rinse water, only leaving coarse food remains which shouldn't be there in the first place if one scrapes. The final rinse is done with nothing but clean, hot water.
For whatever it's worth, I've never had a dishwasher that smells stale either if you open it in the morning, unless obviously it's had dirty dishes in it festering for god knows how long. Not just that but filters aren't forever being cleaned out... I did my parents last time I was there for what must have been the first time in 6 months perhaps more and there was nothing in there except for a chicken bone.
Jon
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Its not that I am lazy but why have a machine that you have
Because you don't........
I've never cleaned a filter on any dishwasher we've owned...
On occasions where I have checked the filter it has always been completely empty. Never any lingering smells either.
And yes, I could certainly fit the loads pictured above into *MOST* dishwashers I have used (Excluding a Zanussi...horrible thing that was!)
Matt
Because you don't........
I've never cleaned a filter on any dishwasher we've owned...
On occasions where I have checked the filter it has always been completely empty. Never any lingering smells either.
And yes, I could certainly fit the loads pictured above into *MOST* dishwashers I have used (Excluding a Zanussi...horrible thing that was!)
Matt
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