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Well, yes and no.

Of course it is all about the money - big corporations are soulless entities which, by definition, exist to fcuk you over.

That said, they do care about the bottom line. When enough people fork over enough money to their competitors, they react.

In that sense, they are not all the same.

I guess it is shades of evil. Ford motor company was founded by an anti-Semite monster whose evil spirit lives on in the company.
GM is not high on my list of 'nice guys', that is just plain silly. The difference? Well, Ford uses the same basic layouts for all their European advertising. Except in Poland. There, they strike all dark skinned people and women in positions of authority from their ads. At least, they did until car leasing firms - their biggest customer - in the UK, Germany and several other countries told them they would no longer buy their cars.
Same with IKEA. The bitch who ran marketing for Germany awhile back was a fundamentalist Christian. Refused to incorporate gay couples in their ads or recognize us for their Family program. So many people protested that she was 'transferred internally' and IKEA Germany now actively supports us.
Because they care? Nope, but because it 'impacts' the 'issue' of their 'bottom line horizon.'
It matters folks. Not because the corporations care, but because they do react. Since our avowed enemies, the christianists are actively out to torture and murder us, we have to make ourselves heard.
 
From last week's Washington Post:

Attorney General Reverses Curbs on Gay Group at Justice Department by Darryl Fears

Five years after a gay advocacy group was told that it could not longer use the e-mail, bulletin boards and meeting rooms at the Justice Department, Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey has reversed that decision and issued a revised equal-employment-opportunity policy barring discrimination against any group.

Mukasey informed leaders of DOJ Pride last week that the department would give it the same rights as all other DOJ employee organizations, said the group's president Chris Hook. In a statement, Mukasey said the department will "foster an environment in which diversity is valued, understood and sought" and maintain "an environment that's free of discrimination."

DOJ Pride and its 110 members had been barred from holding an annual Gay and Lesbian Pride Month celebration since 2003, when Attorney General John D. Ashcroft told the group that the Bush administration observed an unwritten policy of not sponsoring events without a presidential proclamation, Hook said. The group also was told it could not post notices of general meetings and events on department bulletin boards, he said.

The policy continued under ashcroft's successor, Alberto R. Gonzales, Hood said.

"I do not know of any other employee-recognized groups that were denied access under these same conditions," Hook said. As a result of "what some would term a hostile environment for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender employees, the membership rolls have suffered."

"As you can imagine," he added, "it is difficult to let employees know of the group's existence when they are not informed of it in official department literature, or only through work of mouth." Hook said the group had more than 200 members when the ban was handed down in 2003.

Under the Clinton administration, DOJ Pride had grown accustomed to more freedom, holding its annual pride celebration in the Justice Department's Great Hall. Under the Bush administration, the group was told it would have to pay more than $2000 to lease the space including payments for security. Pride celebrations were instead held in small conference rooms reserved by employees and group members.

Recently, when the group organized "DOJ Pride on Ice" a skating event, it was barred from placing a notice on the bulletin board in the department's headquarters building, Hoook said. Other events such as meetings, forums and brown bag discussions also could not be posted, he said.

Justice Department spokesman Peter Carr declined to respond to the specific allegations made by Hook. He said that Mukasey now will permit DOJ Pride to use bulletin boards, easels and the department's e-mail system.

As far back as 2001, when conservative groups began to lobby against gay pride events at the Justice Department, Sen Russell Feingold (D-Wis.) asked Ashcroft in a Judiciary Committee hearing if he would give DOJ Pride the same access to Justice Department facilities as other employee groups.

Ashcroft replied that it was not his intention "to discriminate against any group that appropriately constituted in the Department of Justice." Responding to written questions from Feingold, Ashcroft said he would not change any policies or treat DOJ Pride differently.

After Mukasey took over the department late last year, the group wrote to him to complain about its treatment. Hook said Mukasey met with group leaders, signed the new policy that allowed bulletin board postings, and agreed to host the pride celebration in one of the department's main halls.

"He has gone out of his way to ensure that the department has a new air of inclusiveness and an open and welcoming environment for all employees," Hook said.
 
A few years ago United Airlines got into a tiff with the city of San Francisco. The city adopted a law requiring all companies doing business in the city to have sexual orientation non-discrimination policies on their books. United didn't at the time.
United told the city to screw off, they wouldn't do it. The city told UA to get ready to pack their bags. Now, UA is huge in SFO. They have maintenance bases, a training center, and dominates a large share of the traffic in and out of SFO.
It turned into a Mexican standoff. The city finally won and United now has anti-discrimination policies in place. Which is surprising because airlines normally have many gay employees.
 
it is difficult to let employees,.....only through work of m

Now that's funny right there. I couldn't fit the whole quote up there. Tom, I believe you may have had a freudian typo.
 
I have a Question...

... though it may be inappropriate to ask, but it has crossed my mind on more than one occassion so I'd figured I'd ask...

How to put this...

Are the majority of the members of Automatic Washer gay?

I mean, I am too, but I would really find it interesting that this hobby appeals more (or less) to a diverse set of people!

Thanks
~Brant
 
Oh, it's a very diverse & welcoming group and not only the majority, but the founder of the original club on Yahoo, the administration, everything. If there was any doubt, think about the Frigidaire washer on the home page; was there ever any more perfectly erotic mechanical action? Combine that with the power these machines bring to their task and it's no small wonder these washers are almost an icon around here.
 
I wonder why Wendy's would give to Rick Santorum, but I know something about Rick because I live in his area. Rick was here last year for his run for Congress. He had to stop at a local hairdresser I know because his son needed a hair cut. She was too busy, so she referred Rick to send his son to another hairdresser, then realized, after he left, that the hairdresser was openly gay. I would love to know if Rick's son had long hair that day or the best haircut he ever had.
 
LOL!!

I NEVER thought of it that way!

But you have to admit, (the obvious aside) there must be something in the gay gene that attracts us beyond the domestic chore and into the mechanics of restoring a machine of 20+ years ago....

Maybe it reminds us of quality time spent with our mothers, cause we all do take very good care of our mothers! <=)

If I was a psych major, this could an interesting thesis. Fortunately, these machines and how they work are just completely fascinating to me!
 
Brant, yeah for me it's about the whole concept of designing and building a machine that will almost outlast its owner. That's why I have an appreciation for the real Maytags. I was raised in a household where you fixed what broke, you didn't go out and buy new unless it was absolutely hopeless re: the broken appliance. I take great pleasure in keeping an old mechanical item going and using it but unfortunately don't have the space or the understanding partner to put together a collection of large items. Sometimes I find myself wishing I was single and lived in a home with plenty of extra space. But today's Valentines Day so forget I said that! Today's focus at home needs to be more in line with Tog's whole assessment of the Frigidaire "jet action" thing.
 
There is

a dissertation written by a fellow in Chicago regarding how gay people are the culture bearers in our society. The historic preservation community is comprised largely by the gay community. I'm sure the majority of members here are gay. Just reading the threads make that obvious unless a straight person doesn't pick up on some of the enuendo.

All said I bet orientation is of little relavence to us here. What makes this community of is the bond that is forged by a mutual interest in the information shared here. Close friendships may develope between members but it was the common interest in AW that brought them togeather in the first place. We all see discrimination in various forms against gay people in our lives. Sad really. I believe we all need each other in this world.

As a member of the Archival community I see a large number of gay people in my chosen field of work. Again, the preservation aspect at play. Fortunately in my line of work orientation seems to matter little. A feature of the academic world. I do from time to time get a chuckle when I see a straight person, male or female, look around the research library and realize the staff is mostly gay. There is even one guy who sometimes is mistaken for being gay and he is the only straight guy on the reference staff (metrosexual I think they call it). I am the most openly gay member and I get mistaken for being straight (it's that bear look) by the public. I remember a guy came in a few years ago working on his genealogy and was giving one of the other staff members a sharp look when he realized the staff member was gay. He made a few negative comments about my colleague, assuming I was straight. The guy made it clear he had an association with the KKK. He was a bit taken back when I told him wearing those white sheets was just another form of DRAG.

The bottom line for me is to follow the Golden Rule. If we all practiced good manners and followed the G.R. there would not be any need for political correctness. I believe one of the saddest but most true things ever said in the 20th century was when Rodney King said "Can't we all just get along?" He was right.

I'm glad to be a part of this community.
 
Brant, there is something about this interest that almost every member has reported and that is that the interest has been life-long, like from earliest childhood there are memories of appliances, usually washing machines. Sometimes it stays limited to washers. With other members, the interest widens to include many other appliances even HVAC equipment and electronics like radios, television and recording and play back technology. Then there are smaller electric appliances with vacuum cleaners, mixers and coffee makers, especially vacuum cofffee makers heading the list. Automaticwasher.org or Applianceville is a fascinating collection of people, interests and talents. Tom
 
I have always been told Amway is a Cult that is why I never have bought anything from them.I have heard that quite a few times its not as bad as well some of the Famous ones we hear about every day I don't want to name names cause they LOVE TO SUE EVERYBODY but I have heard that your life becomes Amway once you join.I have been told there dish detergent is pretty good though but $$$$$$
 
There is

firm evidence substantiating the theory we are born gay. There is quite a bit of statistically relevant data supporting the notion that, in many ways, we have the best (and certainly the worst) of both male and female brain structures.
It makes sense to me that we would be interested in preserving and restoring machines, in all high-order mammals, the gays in the species are the ones who contribute to preserving the group.
It is a pity that the Christian church is so evil. If only they hadn't left the lions out overnight we'd have been long since rid of this hateful sect. I know that there are Christians out there who are good people, but they are good despite their evil, twisted, hate-filled religion, not because of it.
Personally, once I know that a company or person is attacking me because of my sexuality, I will fight them with every legal tool at my disposal. Since corporations only care about making money, that is the way to attack them. Best case, they change policies, second best case the bastards go bankrupt.
 
Cadillac / Gay friendly?

True story. I was driven to the Cadillac dealer after having my car creamed in an accident. Not in a good mood. My partner and I walked onto the lot and within a very short time the outdoor music system changed mid-song from standard background music to PRISCILLA!
We both laughed! We assumed it was unintentional... or was it??
We bought the Cadillac and were treated like kings through the entire process.
 
Federal Employees Domestic Partner Benefits?

So far, Federal Goverment Employees do not have domestic partner benefits. There was a bill introduced by Joe Liberman in December, 2007, and earlier in 2002 that went nowhere.

When the Federal Govenment extends domestic partner benefits to it's employees, it will make it almost Unconstitutional for any company to deny those benifits it gives to married couples. It will become like the equal opportunity laws. The US government will not do business with companies that do not follow equal opportunity laws and hopefully soon will not do business with companies that do not support domestic partner laws. Once adopted by the Feds, it pretty much is in the Constitution as a statute. Many State and local governments do have domestic partner benifits, and this is a case where we need the long arm of the law to protect citizens in all states,like equal rights. The city of San Francisco workers work for the government, the city of Dallas workers work for the government ,in a different state. It is insane that they have different domestic partner benefit policies. Texas cant decide to eliminate airbags and seatbelts from the vehicles sold there or to re-enact slavery. Federal Laws prohibit it.

We have got to get Federal Employees to have a domestic partner benefit plan. States and companies will be forced to model it.
 
Regarding the issue of benefits for partners, why do we not just have national health care, as proposed by Dennis Kucinich and is that way in every other country on Earth, rather than have to worry about who to work for to get benefits? I have heard of people who don't particularly like each other get married for the health insurance. How did we ever get like this? Hillary and Obama propose that people not insured through their companies can get the same plan Members of Congress have. But if no domestic partner benefits, is that really an improvement? I will, in fact, soon be uninsured as my job no longer offers benefits but that would not happen if I had a Wife so I could sponge off her benefits. The only thing left for me to do is spend down all my savings and go on Medicaid.
 

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