true frigiadiare or WCI?
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JUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Junk..
My parents had that exact same washer when I was a teenager. Run away! Run as fast as you can!
Chris
My parents had that exact same washer when I was a teenager. Run away! Run as fast as you can!
Chris
supremewhirlpol
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Looks like a Horizon 2000. This is a WCI machine. The console and the bottom of the front of the machine gives it away.
cfz2882
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franklin
i have the 1989 monkey wards version-cheaply made but tough
washers,i have noticed they do not like to be underloaded-
when underloaded,the tub indexes in 90*increments with enough
speed to pull the load out away from the agitator(a 5-vane
angelwing on my machine)-when loaded heavier indexing
decreases and load can circulate to the action zone.
one thing i do like about this style of franklin is they are
very easy to winterize-just pull off the toeboard cover,take
the hose off the pump guard trap and drain without moving the
washer.(my franklin is in my "toy"washer lineup and gets
rotated into use from time to time in the warmer months)
i have the 1989 monkey wards version-cheaply made but tough
washers,i have noticed they do not like to be underloaded-
when underloaded,the tub indexes in 90*increments with enough
speed to pull the load out away from the agitator(a 5-vane
angelwing on my machine)-when loaded heavier indexing
decreases and load can circulate to the action zone.
one thing i do like about this style of franklin is they are
very easy to winterize-just pull off the toeboard cover,take
the hose off the pump guard trap and drain without moving the
washer.(my franklin is in my "toy"washer lineup and gets
rotated into use from time to time in the warmer months)
cfz--That's interesting. On my '06 Frigidaire top-loader (also with a Franklin transmission) the tub would index more as the size of the load increased. If you had a small load in it, the tub would index very little. With a full load, that tub would be whizzing around.
cfz2882
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tub sizes
might be the bigger tub on the later machines causing the
different effect-my '89 has the 70s/80s size tub-perhaps 14lb
capacity,later ones from around 1990 up have a quite a bit
bigger tub perhaps 18 lb-not sure if the two tub sizes were
offered alongside each other for a while.
the earlier style i have has the pump under the motor and
running in agitate direction you can really hear that pump
thrashing and frothing the water as the washer runs.
Also i remember franklin(and westinghouse)used to claim the
indexing tub gave a scrubbing action against the tub-LOL
might be the bigger tub on the later machines causing the
different effect-my '89 has the 70s/80s size tub-perhaps 14lb
capacity,later ones from around 1990 up have a quite a bit
bigger tub perhaps 18 lb-not sure if the two tub sizes were
offered alongside each other for a while.
the earlier style i have has the pump under the motor and
running in agitate direction you can really hear that pump
thrashing and frothing the water as the washer runs.
Also i remember franklin(and westinghouse)used to claim the
indexing tub gave a scrubbing action against the tub-LOL
laundromat
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This was the last of the porcelain on steel tub models made similar to the White/Westinghouse models.HATED IT!!!!
macboy91si
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Franklin
I always wondered one thing about these machines...
How did the Franklin design EVER make it? Does anyone agree that it has a good wash action at all? To me it seems like such a cop-out but they've been making them for years. They apparently do wash clothes, but how can the indexing tub be at all efficient?
We had 2 of these when I was growing up at different times, a White-Westinghouse and a Frigidaire and I remember how my mother used to gripe about how she had to under-load the Frigidaire to get mud out of my dad's work clothes. We had the Franklins before and after the old BD KM died, and after she got so frustrated at one of them that she went to Sears and bought a new DD KM washer that day. I know she got both of them cheap. That was 1997 and the Kenmore is still in service at the local high school field house, albeit very rusty.
It's not that I'm harping on them necessarily, but I would like to hear from someone that likes them and why they like them. I've never personally owned one, and don't plan to unless it's a portable variety. I just was curious what the attraction is.
-Tim
I always wondered one thing about these machines...
How did the Franklin design EVER make it? Does anyone agree that it has a good wash action at all? To me it seems like such a cop-out but they've been making them for years. They apparently do wash clothes, but how can the indexing tub be at all efficient?
We had 2 of these when I was growing up at different times, a White-Westinghouse and a Frigidaire and I remember how my mother used to gripe about how she had to under-load the Frigidaire to get mud out of my dad's work clothes. We had the Franklins before and after the old BD KM died, and after she got so frustrated at one of them that she went to Sears and bought a new DD KM washer that day. I know she got both of them cheap. That was 1997 and the Kenmore is still in service at the local high school field house, albeit very rusty.
It's not that I'm harping on them necessarily, but I would like to hear from someone that likes them and why they like them. I've never personally owned one, and don't plan to unless it's a portable variety. I just was curious what the attraction is.
-Tim
I wouldn't say junk. They have their place in society.....
laundromat
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I remember the Bradfords , which were the W.T.Grant brand made by Franklin, had a filter flow type agitator with side fins too. It indexed but not as severe as the current Frigidaires.Seamed to work o.k.but had a slower spin than most.
mrb627
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Junk?
I think every machine serves some purpose. Plus, the fact that a machine is still around and functioning must say something for the longevity of the design. I have a good friend that still has his WCI with angel wing agitator and they have never had it serviced. Must be close to 20 years old by now.
Malcolm
I think every machine serves some purpose. Plus, the fact that a machine is still around and functioning must say something for the longevity of the design. I have a good friend that still has his WCI with angel wing agitator and they have never had it serviced. Must be close to 20 years old by now.
Malcolm
cfz2882
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mine does seem to get clothes decently clean,though i haven't
put it to a real hard cleaning test yet...When the tub is
manually held from indexing the rollover does improve noticably
-when running with the lid open and you see an item near the
agitator that you want to pull down,just grab the tub to stop
the indexing and down it goes!
I put a tach on my franklin and found it spins at 520 rpm-not
real fast considering the earlier smaller tub mine has.
Could change the motor pulley to boost the spin rpm,but then
it would index too fast during agitate and clothes would be
held out away from the agitator....
put it to a real hard cleaning test yet...When the tub is
manually held from indexing the rollover does improve noticably
-when running with the lid open and you see an item near the
agitator that you want to pull down,just grab the tub to stop
the indexing and down it goes!
I put a tach on my franklin and found it spins at 520 rpm-not
real fast considering the earlier smaller tub mine has.
Could change the motor pulley to boost the spin rpm,but then
it would index too fast during agitate and clothes would be
held out away from the agitator....
I'm not so much into the indexing tubs because they make me dizzy while trying to watch the action!
they make me dizzy while trying to watch the action!
todd, I'm the same way. I also have the same reaction when watching a Cabrio type of machine wash--the clothes going from the center to the edge makes me dizzy and nautious.
todd, I'm the same way. I also have the same reaction when watching a Cabrio type of machine wash--the clothes going from the center to the edge makes me dizzy and nautious.
ingliscanada
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Answer is easy
The genuine Fridgidaire has a pulsating agitator. If it has a standard oscilating agitator, it's a Franklin (WCI).
The genuine Fridgidaire has a pulsating agitator. If it has a standard oscilating agitator, it's a Franklin (WCI).
cfz2882
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sometimes takes a trained eye to spot the difference in a lid-
down situation,especially with the earlier westinghouse
versions-some of those even had a window lid that mimicked the
the genuine 1-18,though the shape of the lid is a little
different.
Also with an indexing tub,the westinghouse is a lot like the
franklin but has porcelain steel tubs instead of plastic.
A first,in the early '80s,franklins were only the BOL and
portable "frigidaires",but by '89 the westy versions were
out of production so all franklin after that.
Post '88 i think there were some franklins branded
"white westinghouse"...
down situation,especially with the earlier westinghouse
versions-some of those even had a window lid that mimicked the
the genuine 1-18,though the shape of the lid is a little
different.
Also with an indexing tub,the westinghouse is a lot like the
franklin but has porcelain steel tubs instead of plastic.
A first,in the early '80s,franklins were only the BOL and
portable "frigidaires",but by '89 the westy versions were
out of production so all franklin after that.
Post '88 i think there were some franklins branded
"white westinghouse"...
