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People just want to attack Trump as if he is the worst thing in the world, not realizing that would be WONDERFUL for everybody.

Now I'm going to sit and watch hundreds of AWO members that hate the absurd HE standards suddenly start loving them just because they can't agree Trump tried to do something great.

His attitude could also affect washers and allow "decent" top load washers to come back.
 
"I will be surprised if dishwashers are allowed to become less efficient."

Agreed, I don't see it happening. Even if it passed, all efficient dishwashers wouldn't magically disappear and become unavailable for purchase. There will always be a market for them.
 
It’s a real grey area posting political things in the Imperial, Deluxe, Super, and Shoppers Square forum indexes..
 
Well, it's appliance

crucial though! Maybe the efficiency experts will be pardoned before Jan. 20! Haha!
Joke, because we need to, not that we havn't witnessed one forst hand since 2017.
All the hype over bringing manufacturing back to the USA, etc. and America first is B.S. It's too late. Nixon opened China to diplomacy after they got nukes. Their program began in 1964, and the first bomb test was in the 70's.
Further more, our corporations no longer wanted to pay high wages and benefits in manufacturing. They used our congress, and China, Mexico, etc. to break unions. The labor force union membership is less than half as in 1977.
Karma is a bitch aint it?
 
If I EVER were to post anything political in the Imperial, Deluxe, Super, and Shoppers Square forum indexes I would be in hot water.
 
"A big difference"?

we do have more important things to be concerned with, and 10% hotter water won't kill one of them. Utility providers are hiking rates too, unless the ecomomy resets
to lower prices because of the pandemic. We'll have to see how actuaries come up with the numbers. I wouldn't hold my breath, but you can't collect blood from stones. I guess homeless people don't need utilities.
 
I don't consider this full blown politics, appliances are involved! Not interested in sharing my political views here, but if machines could use 25% more energy/water on a designated cycle, we would have some awesome cleaning machines- keep the energy efficient "normal" cycle for the people that just jam the normal button and walk away, but add a designated "Power clean" cycle that would do an admirable job in an hour or so..
 
Isn't this why .....

we love and gravitate towards older DW's .... say for instance the KA-18 thru 20 something that people here are always talking about?

More water, more power??

Cleaner dishes in way less time???

A huge bob load and still does a great job????

Just sayin ...
 
just my 2 cents here

just adding my 2 cents here most newer dishwasher today requires running hot water from the tap first before running the dishwasher but with the kitchenaid kdefe204kps because of the high temp wash option or sensor wash(prowash) i do not have to do that since i also use sani rinse but what would you do if during 2021 you find in mint condition vintage dishwashers like these? credit to members whopic i saved and using

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The only reference my user manual has to water supply temperature is on the cycle description page with an advisory that cycle time can vary per various factors such as incoming water temperature, ambient conditions, type of load, and whether the machine is opened during the cycle.  Wash times are only APPROXIMATE on the Electronic Display and based on 120°F incoming water.

The installation instructions say that maximum supply temperature is (should not exceed) 140°F.
 
Hmmm.

I have a Frigidaire model that is between 5 and 10 years old that replaced an old Maytag from the 90s with the mechanical dial—I wished I know then what I know now.

For the longest time, I couldn’t figure out why this appliance was not working well. My mother has an older Frigidaire that works well, and she never “washed” the dishes before they went in. Something called energy guidelines happened in that span of years.

Part of the reason seems to be that phosphates were removed from dishwashing detergent as Cascade Boil Out definitely has made a difference! I still use a lot of water rinsing the dishes to get all the residue off before putting in the machine. I then choose the hottest water temp and drying cycles available. It does a respectable job now with this method.

These energy regulations have caused many of us to use more chemicals, more loads, more time, and more energy to do the same thing in less time with less resources. The landfills are filling up at alarming rates when you consider this new thinking that also involves a less expensive up front and buy more often affects printers, tires, car batteries, sealed electronics, appliances, and lots more.
 

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