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And here's the 'but'...

There was a fairly good leak somewhere...  I know someone in this household would have kittens if there are any leaky washers or dishwashers, so I knew I had to find it... 

 

It wasn't just a loose connection, alas.  It's the solenoid itself.   This, however is not a big problem - I think I'll be able to swap one of the Whirlpool water solenoids from one or the other of the leftover parts donors from the Inglis restoration.  I'm slating that job for tomorrow, though.  

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I did take advantage of having a couple of very wet towels from the mop-up to test that 1140 RPM spin with... 

 

I was amazed at how dry the towels came out of the Frigidaire.   I think this is love.... LOL 

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I jury-rigged an American to Canadian dryer plug and extension cord.    It looks scarier than it is... Honest!!   I used one just like this for a few weeks with the 58 Hotpoint and only (possibly) one power hit in the county was caused by it ... 

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However, when I tried the dryer, nothing happened!!  I had tested it last week on 120v only and I had managed to get the drive motor and timer to run.   Today, only the drum light would work...  GRRRRRR!!

 

I quickly went through a list of the 'usual suspects'... I was afraid I'd mixed up the wiring of the US-style dryer outlet, but this was not the case.  

 

I tried connecting a test cord directly to the black and white leads on the terminal block like I had done last week.  Still nothing. 

 

I took the timer box out to check for loose connections.  I found one, I tightened it, and still nada.  

 

I took the back off, looking for loose or broken wires.  None to be found.  I tested the belt switch in case it was out of alignment.  It was fine.    This was about when I started to whimper like Canyon during a thunderstorm... 

 

I'll do some more serious tracing and testing tomorrow, but now I'm scared something happened to the timer or motor with the bumps and bounces getting the dryer down the basement stairs.  

 

In the meantime,  I'll be seeking a wiring diagram and service literature... I have a complete parts list (again, thanks to Jon for that!!) but I'll need more.   That and a large Manhattan...   OY!

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Thank you Mark!!   If there is any complaint chart for the symptom 'dryer will not run' and the wiring diagram, I'll start there.  

 

I definitely pulled out the timer knob (several times).   It seems to be supplying power since the drum light went off, when the knob was pushed in and the panel toggleswitch was off, also.  

 

I had nightmares of a timer failure last night.   I'll probably focus on changing the water valve on the washer today though.   But, I'll be back down in Ogden again next week for an extended stay and I can hopefully figure something out then. 
 
Wow, what an ordeal you've gone through Paul! For the dryer, I'd double check the belt safety switch again. I don't remember which filtrator it was that I've had, but one had a finicky safety switch.

The motor will run even with the elements out of service, so concentrate on that leg of 220v first.

Also, I had put a three temp Maytag valve in the washer to obtain a warm wash and rinse. It might not be a bad idea to either swap in another three temp or rebuild that one.

Ben
 
Ben, I thought that water valve looked Maytag-ish!  Eesh,  those three-temp models are harder and harder to find.  I'll still experiment with the WP valve though - something tells me I'll end up with a cold rinse, though...    I've sent you a PM about the shut-off valve that was connected to the fill tube... 

 

I hope I'll be able to get to some electrical troubleshooting with the dryer later today.   I'm hoping it will be 'pas grande chose' but I'm still worried about the timer for some reason...  Oh wait, 'cause I have awful luck with timers... LOL 
 
Ben, that was the finicky one. I remember more than once starting that dryer (when it was your only one hooked up) and you reminding me to open up the door and give the drum a push to trip that switch.
 
Secrets of wash temperature revealed!

Just did a circuit test of the water valve supply wires.   With a 'regular' two-solenoid valve, I'll get the choice of a hot OR a cold wash with a cold rinse by default.   I'll need to do some fiddling here, but I just may have a three-solenoid valve that I bought as a 'just in case' for the Dominion that may work out for me here.  Well, if it fits...
 
Some good news - the washer is up and running!

And also not 'walking' like it was doing yesterday during some initial spin tests... LOL 

 

I found a supposedly-Maytag-compatible three solenoid water valve some time ago (I thought I was going to need it on the Dominion but I managed to rebuild the original valve) so I figured I could just pop that in and be done with it.   Fortunately the valve fit the Frigidaire mounting plate nicely, but I still can't seem to get a warm wash or rinse...  However the new valve is 100% leak-free and I seem to have the right flow level to fill the tub correctly for the rinses, so I'm not too stressed by this.  In a worst case scenario, I can manually toggle the wash selection between hot and cold to get the right wash temperature.  

 

So, I think I may be ready for a 'Maiden Wash' later today!   

 

I'll do a little more messing around with the dryer now...  One thing I did was to double-check the electrical supply I'd been using.  It's good - I have the full 240v total and 120v on each 'leg'.  I had to check this again because, yes I condemned not one, but two dryers to death because of a faulty breaker that did not deliver the full 240v to the dryer outlet...  Stay tuned... 
 
Mark - you're right! I totally had forgotten about that. Paul, give the drum a push (doesn't matter direction) to get it running.

 

Also, hook the warm wire (I don't recall the color) to the warm side of the three temp valve. I had to drill holes in the Frigidaire mount to get the 3-temp valve to fit. It's much easier to replace the original brass valves with the three temps, due to the scarcity of finding a two solenoid warm/hot valve, vs a cold/hot valve.

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Well son of a ....

When I read what Mark and Ben had mentioned about giving the drum a spin by hand, I remembered that that was something I had done before first trying the machine.  I was checking to make sure that nothing was binding or had slipped out of alignment in transit.  I figured I had nothing to lose by trying again.

 

At about 3:30 this afternoon,  anyone strolling down the Tomifobia Nature Trail along the banks of the river would have heard a vociferous exhortation to the Holy Spirit, the Eucharist, the tabernacle, the Virgin Mary and a few assorted saints.  In French, that's offensive... trust me!  I tried the dryer after giving the drum a spin and well, it worked!!

 

I ran it for about 20 minutes to 'burn off' any lint that shook lose and it was just fine!  The timer ran, the Radiantubes lit up and the fan turned beautifully!  

 

I gave the belt switch a bit of an 'attitude adjustment' too, while I was at it... Let's see how that works out!

 

I'm just about ready for the first load of washing AND drying in my 'new' Frigidaire set!!

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Hmmm.... I wish I'd have taken a picture of the 'replacement' I installed on the Unimatic.  However, I am going to try to rebuild the Maytag valve I took out.

 

But cold water rinse or not, anniversary supper to make or not, I was determined to try out the Frigidaire washer AND dryer last night!

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I had been saving some washing to try out the new machine with, but I thought while I was at it, I could now do a side-by-side comparison of the 1951 WO65 to the 1963 Canadian Deluxe Frigidaire! 

 

To compare cleaning results, the blue shorts in the first pile of laundry were evaluated against the green pair in the second pile.   The first pile went into the 51 and the second pile went into the 63.    

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