philr
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Hi Phil,
I notice you have the manual for the Frigidaire mastertwin, these machines were available in the UK in the late 60's early 70's. I have never seen one and like you would luv to try and get one oneday.
Cheers
Keith
I notice you have the manual for the Frigidaire mastertwin, these machines were available in the UK in the late 60's early 70's. I have never seen one and like you would luv to try and get one oneday.
Cheers
Keith
twintubber
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Hi Phil!
Thanks for the pics and the email scans.
I never knew that Frigidaire made a twin tub. Seems there were a lot of manufacturers that tried their hand at making twin tubs back in the days of them being popular. But it also seems that very few were successful-Hoover seemingly being the most successful.
I know about being able to listen to the same track on an album over and over and over-I've always been able to do that but I hear what you are saying as well. I would think working on your machines is very therapeutic for you-much like it is and/or can be for many of us. Especially in these trying and stressful times we are living in.
Get a twin tub someday, you'll definitely enjoy it!!!
Thanks for the pics and the email scans.
I never knew that Frigidaire made a twin tub. Seems there were a lot of manufacturers that tried their hand at making twin tubs back in the days of them being popular. But it also seems that very few were successful-Hoover seemingly being the most successful.
I know about being able to listen to the same track on an album over and over and over-I've always been able to do that but I hear what you are saying as well. I would think working on your machines is very therapeutic for you-much like it is and/or can be for many of us. Especially in these trying and stressful times we are living in.
Get a twin tub someday, you'll definitely enjoy it!!!
twintubber
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Mickey.....
Yep. That's the machine(s) I meant. Although you have the much older, original style machine.
I want one of the more modern ones with the "Filter-Flo" style filtration and recirculation system.
Nice machine you have though and I'm sure a real treasure to have.
Yep. That's the machine(s) I meant. Although you have the much older, original style machine.
I want one of the more modern ones with the "Filter-Flo" style filtration and recirculation system.
Nice machine you have though and I'm sure a real treasure to have.
mickeyd
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Thanks Phil for the Service and Parts scans
Interesting that the GM emials Phil sent show recirculation just like the Hoovers that Twin Tub and Unclejohn have. Cool coincidence. The GM Frigidaire also has two motors and two pumps. Maybe Mike or one of our UK buddies has one or pics or vids.
Interesting that the GM emials Phil sent show recirculation just like the Hoovers that Twin Tub and Unclejohn have. Cool coincidence. The GM Frigidaire also has two motors and two pumps. Maybe Mike or one of our UK buddies has one or pics or vids.
mickeyd
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Recirc and filtation, fast and pretty but not too effective
Scott, are you saying that Easy made the more typical TT like the 3 that you have rather than this monster Spin Drier. LOL
By the way, love ya, too right back.
Scott, are you saying that Easy made the more typical TT like the 3 that you have rather than this monster Spin Drier. LOL
By the way, love ya, too right back.
twintubber
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The Hell You Say!
But alas Mickey, there really is a Twin Tub Fairy who magically "transformed" the Easy into a modern day Hoover look-a-like.
But I digress......................
But alas Mickey, there really is a Twin Tub Fairy who magically "transformed" the Easy into a modern day Hoover look-a-like.
But I digress......................
mickeyd
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From the parts & service scan ~
" The polypropylene top assembly is coloured white, restyled handles are fitted to both wash and spin lids. The wash side mechanism is powered by a split phase motor, the twin lobe turbulator being driven direct. The re-circulation nozzle faces in the opposite direction but at the same angle, this is necessary due to the reversed action of the water rotation. The wash pump, located on the lower crossbrace incorporates a four bladed impeller. "
I can decode Launderess with some help, LOL, but the third sentence from Phi's scan is beyond my paygrade:
The re-circulation nozzle faces in the opposite direction but at the same angle, this is necessary due to the reversed action of the water rotation.
What is going on here?
" The polypropylene top assembly is coloured white, restyled handles are fitted to both wash and spin lids. The wash side mechanism is powered by a split phase motor, the twin lobe turbulator being driven direct. The re-circulation nozzle faces in the opposite direction but at the same angle, this is necessary due to the reversed action of the water rotation. The wash pump, located on the lower crossbrace incorporates a four bladed impeller. "
I can decode Launderess with some help, LOL, but the third sentence from Phi's scan is beyond my paygrade:
The re-circulation nozzle faces in the opposite direction but at the same angle, this is necessary due to the reversed action of the water rotation.
What is going on here?
mickeyd
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If I've seen the new version, probably a McClary, I've forgotten, but I believe you, of course.
What do you make of the Frigidaire having a "Turbolator? " The text makes it sound like the impeller reverses like the MT A 50. Leave it to GM to up the ante to classy and exclusive. Yeah! Too bad they didn't keep their washer division. Fools!
What do you make of the Frigidaire having a "Turbolator? " The text makes it sound like the impeller reverses like the MT A 50. Leave it to GM to up the ante to classy and exclusive. Yeah! Too bad they didn't keep their washer division. Fools!
Killer Heels again
That Frigidaire ad is one of my favourites.
Checking back on previous threads it appears this machine had a pulsator on the bottom of the tub - from a Which report from October 1967 it appears that the machine had a reasonably small capacity - they said 3 1/2lb so it was probably rated about 5lb
Interesting to see this machine in Canada as the UK version had a heater, but I presume that Canadian models would not have.
That Frigidaire ad is one of my favourites.
Checking back on previous threads it appears this machine had a pulsator on the bottom of the tub - from a Which report from October 1967 it appears that the machine had a reasonably small capacity - they said 3 1/2lb so it was probably rated about 5lb
Interesting to see this machine in Canada as the UK version had a heater, but I presume that Canadian models would not have.
"so have you ever used the GSW/Easy or McLary twin tub b
I bleieve this is the machine that is being referred to - immediatly recognisable to us in the UK as it is based on the Hotpoint Supermatic which was sold here for very many years.
I hope Robert will forgive a shot from a recent Epherema posting, I was amazed to see it.
It uses recirculating water action, the "Spiraclean" agitator is entirely appropriate for an Easy and (at least in the UK) it used a GE style filter pan. On UK models the right hand knob was the heater thermostat control. Spin speed was 3100rpm
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I bleieve this is the machine that is being referred to - immediatly recognisable to us in the UK as it is based on the Hotpoint Supermatic which was sold here for very many years.
I hope Robert will forgive a shot from a recent Epherema posting, I was amazed to see it.
It uses recirculating water action, the "Spiraclean" agitator is entirely appropriate for an Easy and (at least in the UK) it used a GE style filter pan. On UK models the right hand knob was the heater thermostat control. Spin speed was 3100rpm
View attachment vacbear58++3-18-2013-15-24-27.jpg
mickeyd
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How fabulous is that?
A Twintub with a classic Easy Spiralator and filter-flo recirculation. What a day, Vacbear. GM & EASY TT's. It really never stops around here! Thanks! And thanks for the tip off to Ephemera.
A Twintub with a classic Easy Spiralator and filter-flo recirculation. What a day, Vacbear. GM & EASY TT's. It really never stops around here! Thanks! And thanks for the tip off to Ephemera.
GSW-McClary
Mickey
I cannot tell you how excited I was when I noticed the McClarey TT, as it was the first reference I had seen of this style of machine oon your side of teh pond.
The attached vid courtsey of Matchbox Paul, this is the more advanced model with the automatic rinse - different from both the Hoover and the Speed Queen styles. I just put a little more water pressure on mine to make the jets flow out further
Al
Mickey
I cannot tell you how excited I was when I noticed the McClarey TT, as it was the first reference I had seen of this style of machine oon your side of teh pond.
The attached vid courtsey of Matchbox Paul, this is the more advanced model with the automatic rinse - different from both the Hoover and the Speed Queen styles. I just put a little more water pressure on mine to make the jets flow out further
Al
twintubber
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THANKS vacbear58!!!
That is exactly the machine I am referring to!
Damn I really want one now more than ever.
Mickey, I thought you were kidding around, but did you not know of these machines?
I know them very well and would love to have one.
Not sure if the NA models had the "spin ring" style rinsing though-that was amazing!!!
Yep, a BLUE spiralator agitator with "Filter-Flo" style filter pan and all. BIG washtub compared to most twin tubs, and an ultra high speed spin.
Ya can't just can't these machines for performance. And I would love to put it next to my Simplicity and see which one outperforms the other!
That is exactly the machine I am referring to!
Damn I really want one now more than ever.
Mickey, I thought you were kidding around, but did you not know of these machines?
I know them very well and would love to have one.
Not sure if the NA models had the "spin ring" style rinsing though-that was amazing!!!
Yep, a BLUE spiralator agitator with "Filter-Flo" style filter pan and all. BIG washtub compared to most twin tubs, and an ultra high speed spin.
Ya can't just can't these machines for performance. And I would love to put it next to my Simplicity and see which one outperforms the other!
twintubber
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And Thanks Again.....
vacbear58.
You were posting a video as I was replying to your thread.
Fun that you were so happy to hear that we had them here too!
Don't think I ever saw the McLary version, but have seen and owned a GSW/Easy version (same machine).
But I believe our NA machines had a plastic wash tub and didn't feature the spin-rinse system.
Notice Guys, how this not only had the GE "Filter-Flo" style lint filtration system, but also the short and quick agitation strokes that GE had at the time. Unlike the older Easy models which had a slower agitation stroke.
vacbear58.
You were posting a video as I was replying to your thread.
Fun that you were so happy to hear that we had them here too!
Don't think I ever saw the McLary version, but have seen and owned a GSW/Easy version (same machine).
But I believe our NA machines had a plastic wash tub and didn't feature the spin-rinse system.
Notice Guys, how this not only had the GE "Filter-Flo" style lint filtration system, but also the short and quick agitation strokes that GE had at the time. Unlike the older Easy models which had a slower agitation stroke.
Twin Tub vs Compact (Portable) Washer
Hauled the Hoover TT out of it's cubby as one should take the thing out for an airing now and then,if nothing else the odd use keeps the seals and pump in good condition IMHO. Anyway am here to tell you won't be doing that again anytime soon! *LOL*
Did small load of darks using older version of Cheer powder (Triple Colour Guard), and while yes the Hoover does clean well enough, the effort to get there is just more than my nerves can stand. Perhaps if the motor didn't make enough noise to wake the dead things might be different. It is that darn motor noise which gets to one and you will hear it allot if you intend to get any where near the same standard of rinsing one obtains from a good front loader.
The shifting of laundry (wringers, hand washing with a mangle, twin tubs) does have the benefit of leaving less lint on laundry IMHO. This is because washing is lifted out of the muck laden water and wrung/spun out. As opposed to the spin drying cycle on top loaders that sends water filtered through the wash on it's way out of the tub. The darks done yesterday in the Hoover had much less linting than when done in the Whirlpool compact even allowing for the latter having a recirculating lint filter system.
It is the rinsing part of using a TT that gets one down. Am sorry but the spin can rinisng system only works for very small loads made up of small items. Most everything else is going to require a trip through some sort of immersion rinsing either in the TT's main tub or elsewhere. It is all that draing of water and refilling of the main tub that causes all the bother. Depending upon several factors one will be doing that quite allot in order to remove all the detergent/muck from the washing.
One can only assume many routine users of TT's back in the day weren't to bothered by exacting rinsing standards. Just cannot see otherwise and have them deliver on claims about being able to "whizz" though mountains of wash using a twin tub.
Hauled the Hoover TT out of it's cubby as one should take the thing out for an airing now and then,if nothing else the odd use keeps the seals and pump in good condition IMHO. Anyway am here to tell you won't be doing that again anytime soon! *LOL*
Did small load of darks using older version of Cheer powder (Triple Colour Guard), and while yes the Hoover does clean well enough, the effort to get there is just more than my nerves can stand. Perhaps if the motor didn't make enough noise to wake the dead things might be different. It is that darn motor noise which gets to one and you will hear it allot if you intend to get any where near the same standard of rinsing one obtains from a good front loader.
The shifting of laundry (wringers, hand washing with a mangle, twin tubs) does have the benefit of leaving less lint on laundry IMHO. This is because washing is lifted out of the muck laden water and wrung/spun out. As opposed to the spin drying cycle on top loaders that sends water filtered through the wash on it's way out of the tub. The darks done yesterday in the Hoover had much less linting than when done in the Whirlpool compact even allowing for the latter having a recirculating lint filter system.
It is the rinsing part of using a TT that gets one down. Am sorry but the spin can rinisng system only works for very small loads made up of small items. Most everything else is going to require a trip through some sort of immersion rinsing either in the TT's main tub or elsewhere. It is all that draing of water and refilling of the main tub that causes all the bother. Depending upon several factors one will be doing that quite allot in order to remove all the detergent/muck from the washing.
One can only assume many routine users of TT's back in the day weren't to bothered by exacting rinsing standards. Just cannot see otherwise and have them deliver on claims about being able to "whizz" though mountains of wash using a twin tub.
mickeyd
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Well Hello, SCOTT! A warm welcome back!
No, I wasn't kidding. That circle jet spray is well-known among the Frigidarians, but in it a TT-- Whoooo. eeeeee--news to me, and good news, indeed.
I love that machine to death. And thanks to Vacbear for the posting the vid.
So glad you're back, a gift of the Polar Vortex. Could listen to you all night.
Was smitten from the beginning when you said:
Have a coffee, tea, soda or juice. Pour a drink or crack a beer (or two).
Strike up a Lucky, chew on a Stogey, treasure a Tipparello or enjoy a long sweet mellow pipe. Light up a Bong or roll a big Fattie!*
Maybe some popcorn if ya like or need.
Then sit back, and enjoy the show!!!!!
No, I wasn't kidding. That circle jet spray is well-known among the Frigidarians, but in it a TT-- Whoooo. eeeeee--news to me, and good news, indeed.
I love that machine to death. And thanks to Vacbear for the posting the vid.
So glad you're back, a gift of the Polar Vortex. Could listen to you all night.
Was smitten from the beginning when you said:
Have a coffee, tea, soda or juice. Pour a drink or crack a beer (or two).
Strike up a Lucky, chew on a Stogey, treasure a Tipparello or enjoy a long sweet mellow pipe. Light up a Bong or roll a big Fattie!*
Maybe some popcorn if ya like or need.
Then sit back, and enjoy the show!!!!!
mickeyd
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HI Scott ~
Last night, I search-o-latored for a thread where I asked you a question before your signal went dark. In that search, I found this one and it was so entertaining that resurrection was clearly indicated, but it is not the one I was searching for. In that not-yet-found one, I wanted you to discuss, at great length your detergent use: how you arrived at the low dosages you mentioned in this thread; how you get such good results; if you had heard of homeopathic medicine which uses miniscule traces of a compound; why your clothes are so clean and white with such low doses; what kind of detergent you use, recalling that Amway was so concentrated, only a small quarter--maybe eighth--of a cup was recommended.
So when you feel like regaling us with a well-developed post which you often apologize for (so funny, since many here love long posts), please have at it, good friend, whose signal is now bright again.
Last night, I search-o-latored for a thread where I asked you a question before your signal went dark. In that search, I found this one and it was so entertaining that resurrection was clearly indicated, but it is not the one I was searching for. In that not-yet-found one, I wanted you to discuss, at great length your detergent use: how you arrived at the low dosages you mentioned in this thread; how you get such good results; if you had heard of homeopathic medicine which uses miniscule traces of a compound; why your clothes are so clean and white with such low doses; what kind of detergent you use, recalling that Amway was so concentrated, only a small quarter--maybe eighth--of a cup was recommended.
So when you feel like regaling us with a well-developed post which you often apologize for (so funny, since many here love long posts), please have at it, good friend, whose signal is now bright again.
twintubber
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Ah, mickey.....
I love ya, Bud! You make me feel so special
And so good to be back on here.
You said:
"So glad you're back, a gift of the Polar Vortex. Could listen to you all night."
Damn, you flatter me! Thanks for those sweet words.
Also:
"Was smitten from the beginning when you said:
Have a coffee, tea, soda or juice. Pour a drink or crack a beer (or two).
Strike up a Lucky, chew on a Stogey, treasure a Tipparello or enjoy a long sweet mellow pipe. Light up a Bong or roll a big Fattie!*
Maybe some popcorn if ya like or need.
Then sit back, and enjoy the show!!!!!"
Somebody got that!!! And of course it would be you-hee hee.
I was trying to be inclusive to all persons and lifestyles.
As for the Polar Vortex, please, send it back SOON! 'nuff said.
I missed your posts the most as you are so eager to learn and so fascinated, it's almost childlike.
That is an amazing quality to have-cherish it.
I always felt bad that I never responded to your queries about my homeopathic detergent mixes before my computer crashed.
But I WILL get into that in a post on here real soon. And I hope you will appreciate the answers.
Once again, to all my FRIENDS at AW.org, thanks for always being there and to being such wonderful people.
My world would be lost now without you.
I love ya, Bud! You make me feel so special
And so good to be back on here.
You said:
"So glad you're back, a gift of the Polar Vortex. Could listen to you all night."
Damn, you flatter me! Thanks for those sweet words.
Also:
"Was smitten from the beginning when you said:
Have a coffee, tea, soda or juice. Pour a drink or crack a beer (or two).
Strike up a Lucky, chew on a Stogey, treasure a Tipparello or enjoy a long sweet mellow pipe. Light up a Bong or roll a big Fattie!*
Maybe some popcorn if ya like or need.
Then sit back, and enjoy the show!!!!!"
Somebody got that!!! And of course it would be you-hee hee.
I was trying to be inclusive to all persons and lifestyles.
As for the Polar Vortex, please, send it back SOON! 'nuff said.
I missed your posts the most as you are so eager to learn and so fascinated, it's almost childlike.
That is an amazing quality to have-cherish it.
I always felt bad that I never responded to your queries about my homeopathic detergent mixes before my computer crashed.
But I WILL get into that in a post on here real soon. And I hope you will appreciate the answers.
Once again, to all my FRIENDS at AW.org, thanks for always being there and to being such wonderful people.
My world would be lost now without you.
Like and hate the maytag TT agitation
The agitation on little Maytags is incredible. I like the impellers, but they really tangle clothes. You can do a spin rinse, BUT you must NOT fill the spin tank up with water, just thoroughly wet the load, then start. Or, you can take a broom stick, ad put it in the bottom of the spinner prior to loading. When you do this, it makes a donut of clothes around the spinner, then remove. I pull the mat to the top, so it doesn't squeeze a bunch of water into the tank. You stick a clothes pin in the part where the switch pushes down. if the load is really big, I suggest that you do it in parts, not one. Now, be REALLY careful as you do this, because remember that it's going 2000 RPM. A reminder: you must remove the spin may prior to doing an open spray rinse, because if you don't, it will make a mess. You can find a belt on repair clinic. Click the link and you'll find it, but a little EXPEN$$$$$$$IVE.
The agitation on little Maytags is incredible. I like the impellers, but they really tangle clothes. You can do a spin rinse, BUT you must NOT fill the spin tank up with water, just thoroughly wet the load, then start. Or, you can take a broom stick, ad put it in the bottom of the spinner prior to loading. When you do this, it makes a donut of clothes around the spinner, then remove. I pull the mat to the top, so it doesn't squeeze a bunch of water into the tank. You stick a clothes pin in the part where the switch pushes down. if the load is really big, I suggest that you do it in parts, not one. Now, be REALLY careful as you do this, because remember that it's going 2000 RPM. A reminder: you must remove the spin may prior to doing an open spray rinse, because if you don't, it will make a mess. You can find a belt on repair clinic. Click the link and you'll find it, but a little EXPEN$$$$$$$IVE.
