Two more Simpson Push Button Fluid Drives for the collection!

[brisnat81]

Beautiful Machines Leon

They look fabulous as usual

Steve,

Dryers that take up more than a standard 60cm x 60cm form factor are usually 20amps 4800watts. These require a dedicated 20amp plug and circuit. The toploading F&P dryer needs 32amps and must be hardwired. The only other 32amp circuit in the average house would be for an electric cooktop and oven.

There were some early UK Euro dryers that came here in the 70's that had a 13amp requirement and had to be installed on a dedicated 15amp circuit, however these days they are all converted to 10amps before arriving on our shores.

Regards

Nathan

 

[toggleswitch]

Thank you.
Care to say which is most prevalent?

Here we find:
220v 30a line for the vast majority; full-sized machines
220v 20a line for stationary comapct machines. (special line)
120v 20a line for portable compact electric dryers and gas-fired dryers. (All of the gas and some of the electrics may be used on a 120v 15a line.) of coyrse 120v is ordinary line voltage for us.

 

[brisnat81]

Hi Steve,

99% of dryers sold here have a capcity of 3.5-5.5kg and run at 2400w 240v 10amps. These sell in the tens of thousands per year, these dryers cost from $300AUD up to $3000AUD for the High end Miele.

Speed queen, Kleenmaid and Maytag sell large capacity machines that run on 20amp 240v 4800w. F&P Sell the 32amp TL Dryer. These dryers would sell in the hundreds per year and cost >$1500AUD

Most houses arent wired for a 20amp dryer.

Regards

Nathan

 

[DADoES]

<blockquote>The toploading F&P dryer needs 32amps and must be hardwired.</blockquote>Interesting. My US version F&P SmartLoad is rated 24A and is connected with a standard 30A dryer cord.

 

[brisnat81]

I dont know why the F&P is rated so high, it makes it very hard to install in most houses.

With an 62 or 80amp service it takes a fair bit of capacity unless you use gas for cooking.

 

[mayfan69]

F & P Topload Dryer

A retail store here..."Goodguys Warehouse", which Nathan will know are clearing out the topload F & P dryer as its not selling very well, mainly as more people here in Oz are buying front load washers and want a compact dryer they can stack on top. A lot of laundries here in Oz are not designed for a side by side washer/dryer pair.

I was quoted AU$999.00 on the dryer down from AU$1499.00!! When i realised it needed to be hardwired, i thought no thanks.

The Simpson dryer in this thread will need a 20amp plug when it gets installed.

Leon

 

[tlee618]

Thanks Leon, That machine is just beautiful with her console all aglow!!! Terry

 

[arrrooohhh]

Leon, The 1970 model was tested in the 1971 Choice and lists full specifications for this machine. I shall have to post it to you.

If you ever had to many fluid drives I am always happy to take one off you, for a fair price of course, just let me know!

I also have to follow up with you a motor for my 1970 Simpson which looks a lot like yours.

 

[mayfan69]

Cycle Times for Bob

Hey Bob,

Attached are the cycle times for both machines. The first sheet is for the machine on the left: with the lighted console and all push buttons.

Leon

 

[mayfan69]

Cycle Times 2

This is the sheet which shows the cycle times for the machine on the right with the control knob.

Ash,

Haven't forgotten about you: will weight up the motor and let you know how much to post and would appreciate the Choice article: email me for my address. I will certainly keep you in mind if i want to part with any Fluid Drives in the future...or any of the other Simpsons I have.

Leon

 

[chestermikeuk]

Wow

Well done Leon, what clean lines & styling on those new machines, love the Timelines, AND, lighted control panels etc, they are really gonna light up your Laundry Studio when its all sorted...BTW..How Big is this space gonna have to be with all these machines you are aquiring...LOL

I`ve never seen a programme chart give so much clear information as on the timeline etc, plenty of scope to wash even plastics & rubbers!!!

Cheers, Mike

p.s. half way through the Servis Manual, ...thanks!!

 

[mayfan69]

Glad you like the manual Mike

Hey Mike,

Thanks! Glad you like the manual: will email you the actual instruction manual for a Mark 22 soon.

I'm going to have to have a pretty big garage methinks!!

Cheers
Leon

 

[toggleswitch]

~Interesting. My US version F&P SmartLoad is rated 24A and is connected with a standard 30A dryer cord.

I'm thinking that the wattages (US/ AUS) are the same. It's probably just that the nearest ameperage over 20a there is 32a.

My understanding is that in some lands with 220v ordinary line voltage, there aren't really outlet configurations (for in-home use) of high amperage draws, thus the need to hardwire.

Although there are industiral-grade plugs and sockets, they are said to be VERY pricey.

 

[mickeyd]

I can't believe the beauty of the machine in the post wi

It's just such eye candy--tremendous, and like Mike, I've never seen a chart so detailed and satisfying right down to the Suds--YAY

Someone over at Simpsons REALLY loved washing machines, right down to the manual.

Thank You, Leon. What great reading treats to go with lunch.

Someday, I'd love to see that unique agitator in action.

 

[rickr]

Those are really cool looking machines! Congrats!

 

[nasadowsk]

Interestingly, the electric codes in the US now require the use of plugs, for everything. Even dishwashers.

 

[toggleswitch]

Can we assume that a DW must be plugged in somewhere that is not directly behind the machine (i.e. inaccessible?)

 

[brisnat81]

Dishwasher socket behind the Dishwasher

Is a huge no-no here.

They warn that because you could push the dishwasher into the plug and bend it outside of specifications or half remove it from the socket, which could then result in overheating. It has to be accessible and is usually in an adjacent cupboard. Garbage disposals are usually plugged into a switched outlet which is then switched on the wall.

I think the reason we hardwire High Amperage appliances, is that with 240V we have so few of them and there is no need for a 25amp plus connector domestically.

Most Australians dont move their stove and oven with them, they stay in place until they fail or you rennovate. Everything else that 99% of the population buys excluding water heaters and built in airconditioners are rated at 10amps or less. That's why the high amperage plugs are so expensive because there are so few homes that use them.

The legislation varies from time to time as to whether the stove and oven need an easily accessible isolator or whether the fusebox is enough.

 

[toggleswitch]

Didn't someone here once post a pic that included an electric (storage-type) hot water heater that was plug-and-cord connected?

Bizarre!

 

[toggleswitch]

~99% of dryers sold here have a capcity of 3.5-5.5kg and run at 2400w 240v 10amps.

How long does a 10amp dryer take?

1- top-loader load (medium spin, say?
2- front loader (fast spin, say)?

TYVM