Now here’s a question I have John, aren’t the timers on the ‘64 MK12 washers the same as the ones in ‘63? I seem to think they would be similar other than the gentle button which I believe activates the extra slow speed.
Unfortunate news about the ‘63 Whirlpool
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Hi Sean, the timers in the 63 and 64 whirlpool imperial mark 12s may be very similar. I would be willing to bet they probably aren’t the same but in any case I don’t think the timer for the 64 is real common either
You certainly can use your washer without the gentle cycle I wouldn’t imagine that you almost ever use a gentle cycle anyway.
You should also be able to fix the cam block with the proxy and then take a Dremel and grind it as necessary to make it work again, certainly a tedious process, but I’ve seen it done.
John.
You certainly can use your washer without the gentle cycle I wouldn’t imagine that you almost ever use a gentle cycle anyway.
You should also be able to fix the cam block with the proxy and then take a Dremel and grind it as necessary to make it work again, certainly a tedious process, but I’ve seen it done.
John.
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Hi John, I may look into making further repairs to the cam assembly but here’s something else I may try. I’ll ask my younger sister in Arizona if her boyfriend knows of anyone who has a 3D printer along with scanning the cam assembly and using CAD to make some adjustments to the cam assembly since it’s ever so slightly crooked which may be why it’s not working properly on the gentle cycle.
I could just use the regular cycle, but just want to have everything in working order so I won’t have to go back and do everything all over again.
Hi John, I may look into making further repairs to the cam assembly but here’s something else I may try. I’ll ask my younger sister in Arizona if her boyfriend knows of anyone who has a 3D printer along with scanning the cam assembly and using CAD to make some adjustments to the cam assembly since it’s ever so slightly crooked which may be why it’s not working properly on the gentle cycle.
I could just use the regular cycle, but just want to have everything in working order so I won’t have to go back and do everything all over again.
Some more news
I’ve made a few more repair attempts, unfortunately none of them were all that successful despite many attempts. At this point, I’m almost considering on waving goodbye to both of them since it’s been nothing but trouble ever since the timer broke last year..
Even searched all over eBay and such and can’t seem to find what I need.
In the meantime, the Maytags are all still working fine with no trouble at all.
I’ve made a few more repair attempts, unfortunately none of them were all that successful despite many attempts. At this point, I’m almost considering on waving goodbye to both of them since it’s been nothing but trouble ever since the timer broke last year..
Even searched all over eBay and such and can’t seem to find what I need.
In the meantime, the Maytags are all still working fine with no trouble at all.
repairguy
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No worries. I’d be interested in the whirlpools.
1963 whirlpool mark 12 washer
Hi Sean, you said this thing works fine except on the delicate cycle why don’t you just keep using it on normal? How often would you ever use delicate cycle on a whirlpool Belt Drive anyway they’re not hard on clothing.
John
Hi Sean, you said this thing works fine except on the delicate cycle why don’t you just keep using it on normal? How often would you ever use delicate cycle on a whirlpool Belt Drive anyway they’re not hard on clothing.
John
It’s not often I use the gentle cycle, but sometimes I’d wash lightly soiled items just to take some wear and tear off of the machine.
Unfortunately, I won’t be able to use it since the contact for agitate decided to break on me. Might be a way to fix it but I’m not sure.
Unfortunately, I won’t be able to use it since the contact for agitate decided to break on me. Might be a way to fix it but I’m not sure.
It’s hard to tell what’s going on in the picture, but if a brass tab has broken off that switch on the right in the picture a replacement can be soldered in place pretty easily. This wouldn’t be a reason to sideline the machine.
Correct, the brass tab has broken off unfortunately. Hopefully I can successfully repair it, if not, then I’ll transplant Mark 18 consoles from a set a friend is parting out. Don’t want to alter the originality but that may be the route I’ll have to go if this debacle/charade doesn’t end.
Repairing a controls corporation, washer timer
Hi Sean, I can find you a timer that has the same contacts and you can just drill out the rivet and use the contacts from another timer. I use tiny nuts and bolts instead of rivets when I do this, we always had a lot of trouble with the rivets popping on Mallory timers and we often fix them this way.
If you want me to find a timer for you that you can part out and send it to you let me know.
John
Hi Sean, I can find you a timer that has the same contacts and you can just drill out the rivet and use the contacts from another timer. I use tiny nuts and bolts instead of rivets when I do this, we always had a lot of trouble with the rivets popping on Mallory timers and we often fix them this way.
If you want me to find a timer for you that you can part out and send it to you let me know.
John
Yes Mallory parts are all interchangeable, I've done this on this several timers. I cannot tell from your picture (reply 27) what is broken, it looks good to me.
Hi Robert, the contract that broke is for agitate. It stinks when things like this happen, but it’s to be expected when you have something that’s over 60 years old. Don’t really want to do this, but if I can’t fix the timer, going to see if I can transplant consoles from a Mark 18 set from the late 70’s a friend is going to be parting out, that’s if I can’t successfully repair the timer.
Fixing an older timer with a broken cam follower
Sean, you’re making this difficult your picture 27 shows a controls corporation timer the parts will not fit from a Mallory timer which you show and reply number 31
I offered to send you a control corporation timer that you can rob parts from, Robert is right. It’s easy to fix these timers. The parts are interchangeable, but you have to use the same brand timer.
John
Sean, you’re making this difficult your picture 27 shows a controls corporation timer the parts will not fit from a Mallory timer which you show and reply number 31
I offered to send you a control corporation timer that you can rob parts from, Robert is right. It’s easy to fix these timers. The parts are interchangeable, but you have to use the same brand timer.
John
ragnboneman
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Thinking way out of the box here but years ago I had a lot of trouble getting contacts and repair parts for an obsolete Canadian brand called CLL.
AUX contacts for controls are hard to get and I made them by peeling apart common things like Open frame relays and soldering the replacement contact in the place of the old one I would drill out.
Crude but effective way to make a part.
https://www.rfparts.com/relays/relays-openframe/ku14d35.html
Sometimes a contact file like this will re surface the and polish them up enough to solve your trouble too.
https://canada.newark.com/gc-electronics/9338/standard-width-burnishing-tool/dp/93B0612
AUX contacts for controls are hard to get and I made them by peeling apart common things like Open frame relays and soldering the replacement contact in the place of the old one I would drill out.
Crude but effective way to make a part.
https://www.rfparts.com/relays/relays-openframe/ku14d35.html
Sometimes a contact file like this will re surface the and polish them up enough to solve your trouble too.
https://canada.newark.com/gc-electronics/9338/standard-width-burnishing-tool/dp/93B0612
ragnboneman
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Arduino automation systems are getting easier to use.
not simple but much easier than trying to wire a PC to a washing machine as I have seen done..
https://www.automationdirect.com/ad...ollers/productivity_open_(arduino-compatible)
not simple but much easier than trying to wire a PC to a washing machine as I have seen done..
https://www.automationdirect.com/ad...ollers/productivity_open_(arduino-compatible)
stricklybojack
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I remember picking these machines up...
...and you getting them from me. Best vintage laundry appliance find i ever made, no doubt.
I hope you get the thing running as that tab seems fixable. You have already done the hard part.
A competent machinist could knock it out fairly easily i would think...but they're not around so much anymore
...and you getting them from me. Best vintage laundry appliance find i ever made, no doubt.
I hope you get the thing running as that tab seems fixable. You have already done the hard part.
A competent machinist could knock it out fairly easily i would think...but they're not around so much anymore
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