Updated photos on the 1963-64 Kenmore 600

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randycmaynard

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Hey guys, here's some new photos of the Kemo 600 from this evening while doing a load of towels. Various shots of the control panel, motor and tranny, wash and spin action. Video is not ready yet but hope to have it up on YouTube this weekend but for now, enjoy these photos. Can't believe how good of a shape the machine is in given its age - the underside photos do reveal some surface rust on some of the parts from several years of storage and a week or two sitting outside under a shed which is where I picked it up from last Sunday.

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Kenmo 600......

Waterfall filter - missing the latch.... it broke off back inside - one of the repairs to be made!

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Love those shots, thanks for posting them. The tranny looks pristine, and I can read the serial numbers on the belts. You've got a winner here for sure. I can't wait for the videos.

Have a good one,
James
 
When the videos are ready.....

I'll post links on this thread for the videos when they are ready. The older post below from this past Sunday has the initial photos while it was in the truck bed and afterward.
 
I odn't think I got to congratulate you on the earlier thread. This is simply a very beautiful machine that is in such great shape for its age. Hardly looks used.
 
This is the very first washer i remember at 1 to 3 yrs. old. I actually started getting chocked up when i saw this thread.

I actually put a chair on front of this machine to see it wash from above and the chair slipped out from underneath me and the only thing i remember was me screaming with litterally a thread of my toungue hanging!! Thank the lord i was as young as i was,...i have loved these things since, and..well iguess there is no and.

Pat, formerly known as agiflow. Missed you appnut as well as many others.
 
Missed you appnut as well as many others.

Aww, thank you Pat. You made my morning, possibly my whole day. It's good to have ya back!! Don't be a stranger around here!!!
 
Tom....

Got this machine from a young lady in Burns, TN which is about 30 miles west of Nashville - it had belonged to the mother of a friend who gave her the washer after hers died. The machine had been in storage since the friend's mother had to move in with son due to not being able to live alone any longer and she had not used the washer very much. Friend's mother bought it new in 1964!

Bob, thanks - had been look for "mom's" washer so it was a great find and to have it in such good condition was a real nice suprise - icing on the cake!

The weekend of March 28th will bring the addition of the 70s Westinghouse frontloading spacemates with it's matching dryer - the 2nd of three machines for my small collection.
Still looking for the elusive '56 Westy slant front washer - that one will be much more difficult to find so, it's back to the computer, CL, thrift stores, estate sales etc!
 
What a superb machine! Congratulations and thanks for the pictures! I'm also looking for a vintage Kenmore or Whirlpool to fit the only space I have for another washer. Wow! Something like this would be great!
 
Wow Randy, that machine is just beautiful!!! Congratulations it cleaned up beautifully.

That machine is right out of my childhood, I remember seeing so many machines of that era in the late 60s and into 70s.
 
Kool old Kenmo! Congratulations on finding this "low mileage" original!
 
Pic # 4 Waterfall filter - missing the latch--LOVE IT

What a nice close-up, the powder blue under the waterfall, with the red then beige towels and the striking black powerful 3-vane. Wonderful.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing the video of this classic.

My aunt had this machine, along with the matching gas dryer when I was real young. I liked this machine better than the 68 800 model my parents had. I liked the waterfall lint filter, the agitator with that small cap, the speckled tub, and the sound it made. The appearance was also beautiful.
Now I have a question for Gordon, and all the Kenmore experts here, and I hope this isn't a stupid question, but I remember that the pitch of the woo woo sound that my folk's 800 model was a bit higher than the 600 model my aunt's machine. It had the traditional low pitch sound that I like better. Don't get me wrong, I like that belt drive sound regardless of the pitch. Now, if the transmission, motor and rpm, pump, belt, and the spin drive were the same in all of these machines, why would the pitch be diffrent in some of them ?
I would appreciate you taking the time to answer this for me.
Thank You, and have a nice day.
Jim.
 
Gordon, I have the same question as Jim. I thought I read one time that the pitch of the "woo-woo" is largely dependent on the size of the belts and pulleys as well as the washer cabinet. Grandma's 24-inch Kenmore space saver machine was noticely higher pitched than the wider 29-inch models that other people we knew had.
 
Jim and Rob -

It's hard to say that one item makes the woo-woo sounds exactly, it's probably a combination of things.

Motors have something to do with it. There have been GE, Delco, and Emerson motors in BD washers over the years. I always thought the later GE motors that were square (unserviceable) made a higher pitch just in operating than the Emersons.

Most of the 24-inch and 29-inch standard cap machines had split-phase motors (which were often GE), whereas the large cap machines had capacitor start motors which were usually Emerson - at least speaking to later production. The split-phase motors start a little bit more slowly, and they give off some more pleasing sounds during start up than the capacitor start motors which spring to life instantly.

The belt itself is the biggest contributor to the woo-ing, and the worn state of the belt can slow it down as it seats further into the pulleys with wear. I believe that with wear, the machine's pitch changes. However, I have four belt-drives here, some with original belts and some not, that emit four distinctly different woo-woos and they are essentially the same mechanically.

Since we know that the 'quiet-pak' machines can be largely almost silent, things like pumps and transmissions don't contribute much to the sounds. The basket drive pulley can make a lot of unpleasant noise, and the pump does make some suctions sounds when operating, especially in drain.

Mostly it's the belt itself and this can vary from one belt to the next. Belts were revised over the years. Randy's machine has a 95405 belt, which is the current number for the big non-quiet belt and was revised to be more flexible and less prone to breakage than the earlier belts. I am sure that a change in materials altered the belt sounds a little bit. The 95405 belt has been standard equipment since the mid 60s, though I don't know when exactly that it replaced the previous version.

As to 24-inch machines, I have always figured that cabinet geometry contributed to the higher pitch on them, and I have noticed this myself.

Sorry for a non-definitive answer!

Gordon
 
Gordon......

How am I going to get that old belt off and a new one on? I looked a the WP service manual that Robert told me about on the site here but still don't quite comprehend geting it from around everything and then the new one back around everything. Looks as though it could be a PIA situation.

Thoughs, suggestions, comments, snide remarks and such.... lol!
 
Belt sounds:

I just shrugged the difference in pitch off as being part of a washer's "personality". I have seen where two of the very same model had different pitches. My aunt and my friend both had 1970 model 500 Kenmores. They were both exactly the same, but the woo pitch on my friends washer was a little higher in pitch than my aunt's.

Age definitely can be a factor. The woo on my aunt's 500 changed noticeably in pitch as it got older. Originally it had a woo pitch that was about the same as the white 1968 Kenmore 700 washer featured in one of Andy's (RedCarpetDrew) videos. In it's last few years of operation the woo became higher pitched, having the same pitch as the late 60s Whirlpool featured in another one of Andy's videos. (BTW, thanks for the great videos Andy.) The washer always had it's original parts, and there were no changes in its function as it performed well up until it died.

Have a good one,
James
 
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