launderess
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Daylight savings time ends at 2AM tomorrow.
USA Members Don't Forget To Turn Those Clocks Back
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And it will be dark by 4 pm tomorrow. Depressing. I would rather have the light later in the day.
Amen to that Tim. Dreading the long nights! Always try to wear brighter colors in the winter, it helps a little bit. Not ready for the time change! Wish they would leave it alone, plays havoc on my elderly Dad.
Barry
Barry
I don't know why we can't have DST all year long.. just make DST the new standard time. Who actually likes it getting dark between 4-5 pm? No one I ever asked.
A good reason not to have d.s.t. all year around, is because this time of year it is pitch black outside when the children are leaving for school in the morning. Many still walk, and could be stuck by a car or scooped up by a stranger in the darkness.
I hate the short days, and long nights also, btw....
I hate the short days, and long nights also, btw....
The saddest, most depressing day of the year is the first Sunday in November.
Rick is right about permanent DST. The way people drive when dropping kids off or picking them up from school is already a situation of total anarchy. Imagine them doing it in the dark.
Permanent DST or PST is on the ballot here in CA. I'm voting against either option, as much as I prefer it to get dark later. Even though I'm not doing the morning commute thing anymore, it would be a nightmare in the dark, particularly through school zones.
I suppose those who love their Xmas lights are rejoicing right about now.
Rick is right about permanent DST. The way people drive when dropping kids off or picking them up from school is already a situation of total anarchy. Imagine them doing it in the dark.
Permanent DST or PST is on the ballot here in CA. I'm voting against either option, as much as I prefer it to get dark later. Even though I'm not doing the morning commute thing anymore, it would be a nightmare in the dark, particularly through school zones.
I suppose those who love their Xmas lights are rejoicing right about now.
Not only USA members but here in Canada as well!
The province of Saskatchewan does not do DST either.
Ralph,
I voted against both options too, because I see too many problems with our state being out of sync with the rest of the nation. But I do think that we should just keep DST for the whole country year round.
While I like the extra hour when we fall back, I hate the earlier darkness, and the earlier light in the morning. I’m like a vampire, one ray of sunlight and I’m awake, and can’t go back to sleep.
Back in the 70’s during the energy crisis we kept DST year round and it was fine, although it was a problem for children walking to school in the dark. But don’t they all get driven now anyway? They could also make the start time for school an hour later to compensate for the darkness.
Eddie
I voted against both options too, because I see too many problems with our state being out of sync with the rest of the nation. But I do think that we should just keep DST for the whole country year round.
While I like the extra hour when we fall back, I hate the earlier darkness, and the earlier light in the morning. I’m like a vampire, one ray of sunlight and I’m awake, and can’t go back to sleep.
Back in the 70’s during the energy crisis we kept DST year round and it was fine, although it was a problem for children walking to school in the dark. But don’t they all get driven now anyway? They could also make the start time for school an hour later to compensate for the darkness.
Eddie
Anyplace that you have fluorescent lights, especially like undercabinet lights in the kitchen, switch the tubes to full spectrum like 6500 Kelvin daylight. The time in the morning and evening that you are bathing your eyes in that light will really help give you energy and beat the winter blues.
Thanks for that suggestion Tom. We have two under counter fixtures at the back end of our kitchen. I'll look into "daylight tubes for them."
I've seen the "daylight" designation on LED bulbs too. Would they have the same effect? Our new house has a lot of LED fixtures and canned lighting.
Eddie, I voted the same way. The author of the failed bill and now the proposition used to be on the city council here. He was firmly against medicinal cannabis, so this is just another example of him being out of touch with the electorate. I like your suggestion of starting school an hour later. That would sell me on year 'round DST. Additionally, our new place has Venetian blinds in the bedrooms, which get bright morning sun during the spring and summer months. I'm going to come up with something to keep the master bedroom dark until I'm ready to face the day.
I've seen the "daylight" designation on LED bulbs too. Would they have the same effect? Our new house has a lot of LED fixtures and canned lighting.
Eddie, I voted the same way. The author of the failed bill and now the proposition used to be on the city council here. He was firmly against medicinal cannabis, so this is just another example of him being out of touch with the electorate. I like your suggestion of starting school an hour later. That would sell me on year 'round DST. Additionally, our new place has Venetian blinds in the bedrooms, which get bright morning sun during the spring and summer months. I'm going to come up with something to keep the master bedroom dark until I'm ready to face the day.
Get a Hollywood Sleep Mask Ralph, thats what I used to wear to block out the light and it worked pretty well. You can find them in most drug stores, and in Target and Walmart where they sell the ear plugs and eyedrops, ect.
We have vertical blinds in our bedroom now and they block the light fairly well, better than horizontal venitian blinds. I hung them right onto the ceiling (the window has a soffit over it) and ordered them so they go from wall to wall, so they really are very effective at blocking the sunlight.
Whenever I see a movie, TV show or House Hunters with no window coverings in the bedroom, I think WTH, HOW do they sleep with the light in their eyes?
Eddie[this post was last edited: 11/3/2018-23:24]
We have vertical blinds in our bedroom now and they block the light fairly well, better than horizontal venitian blinds. I hung them right onto the ceiling (the window has a soffit over it) and ordered them so they go from wall to wall, so they really are very effective at blocking the sunlight.
Whenever I see a movie, TV show or House Hunters with no window coverings in the bedroom, I think WTH, HOW do they sleep with the light in their eyes?
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You’re welcome Ralph! The phone isn’t a Bell Princess phone, it’s a Crosley reproduction and doesn’t have the lighted dial. I do have a Moonbeam clock though on my side of the bed, but surprisingly, it doesn’t bother me. We used to have a Crosley clock that had a face lighted with blue light and that was very distracting.
The Moonbeam is a very low glow yellow light, just enough to be able to see the face of the clock. Its one of the older reproduction models from LL Bean that we got in about 1999, when I was still working. It was good at the time, since the light would flash first, before sounding the alarm. And since I used to have to get up at 5 am, and David worked swing shift and went to bed at about 2 am, it kept him from being woken up.
Eddie
The Moonbeam is a very low glow yellow light, just enough to be able to see the face of the clock. Its one of the older reproduction models from LL Bean that we got in about 1999, when I was still working. It was good at the time, since the light would flash first, before sounding the alarm. And since I used to have to get up at 5 am, and David worked swing shift and went to bed at about 2 am, it kept him from being woken up.
Eddie
What I REALLY don't like about DST is that its not dark until like 8:30,9:00PM and with the hot summers-that is ridiculous.Lets just have EST all year.The time change should be done away with entirely.It also wrecks havoc at work on our transmitter schedules.Tell all operators to IGNORE the local time clocks and use the GMT ones only.And when it gets dark early in the fall winter-and you have to run lights earlier--is this REALLY saving power?
We have two matching small GE clock radios for our nightstands that must be pushing 30 years old. I like them because their digital readouts are red and create no light pollution at all. I also prefer waking to music at a barely audible volume than to an alarm, no matter how pleasant its chirping may be.
Since all of the vintage Telechron and GE clocks I had at our old place are still boxed up (this house is seriously deficient of outlets in the living and dining rooms), my "fall back" chore won't take long at all tonight.
Since all of the vintage Telechron and GE clocks I had at our old place are still boxed up (this house is seriously deficient of outlets in the living and dining rooms), my "fall back" chore won't take long at all tonight.
arbilab
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plays havoc on my elderly Dad
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Plays havoc on my elderly self. Leave the gawldang dagflabbed clocks the flock ALONE! Diddling them doesn't 'save' squat. The lobbyist for DST is the brick & mortar retail industry, which is the new buggywhip industry anyway.
plays havoc on my elderly Dad
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Plays havoc on my elderly self. Leave the gawldang dagflabbed clocks the flock ALONE! Diddling them doesn't 'save' squat. The lobbyist for DST is the brick & mortar retail industry, which is the new buggywhip industry anyway.
firedome
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Dark condtions...
in the morning is a serious issue for the safety of children, just last week near here a 7 yr old child waiting at a bus-stop was run over and killed by a pickup trick driver that didn't see him due to the darkness. The driver wasn't charged due to the circumstances. Safety of children should override all other economic or convenience factors IMO.
That said, starting schools later is also a good idea, especially for adolescents.
in the morning is a serious issue for the safety of children, just last week near here a 7 yr old child waiting at a bus-stop was run over and killed by a pickup trick driver that didn't see him due to the darkness. The driver wasn't charged due to the circumstances. Safety of children should override all other economic or convenience factors IMO.
That said, starting schools later is also a good idea, especially for adolescents.
It was dark here before 5:30 pm....I hate it. I'd rather be on DST all the time.
Gary
Gary
Dark here a little after at 4 today and they are still trying to fix the more than 80,000 power outages for the second weekend in a row, Down to a couple thousand now. Hopefully the rest can get power back soon.
After today, I think I agree with Gary. It's only going to get worse over the next month and a half.
I'm not among the overworked masses that have to commute, but I'm sure they'd appreciate it still being light out when they got home from work.
Schools could adjust their start times, like an hour later after Thanksgiving break and then an hour earlier after spring break (or whatever other breaks they have now -- it seems like the grandkids are on some kind of break every month or two).
I'm not among the overworked masses that have to commute, but I'm sure they'd appreciate it still being light out when they got home from work.
Schools could adjust their start times, like an hour later after Thanksgiving break and then an hour earlier after spring break (or whatever other breaks they have now -- it seems like the grandkids are on some kind of break every month or two).
It's normally dark when I go to work and may or may not be morning/light when I leave depending on how long I'm there ... so that aspect has no effect on me.
Here in Arizona, we don't have to do such nonsense. LOL
More dark is more depressing...
The tradition started in Germany to save coal, but like you’d mentioned, where is the savings on electricity for lighting, and the US is now one-hundred-years into this practice, having started in 1918...
In addition to Arizona, what other places in the United States or the world don’t have to move their clocks forward or back? (Yes, should I think of moving there?)
I have turned back all my clocks but a couple wall clocks, one so high up that I need to stand on something, and another that is in the living room awkwardly over the TV, and both must be taken down to set, and each make bird noises each top of the hour...
Oh, and another wall clock in the kitchen I don’t often look at unless the stove clock has the temperature and the microwave clock is used for the timer I’m more alert to when cooking needs checking or is finished...
I shockingly had to set the clock in my car, even thinking I was running late for work, and know I wil have to m6 wife’s clock in her car... —Very surprised our new cars, least of all mine and the one I had before never did them by themselves...
And don’t get me started on workplaces where you gain or lose an hour on your productive time because of this.,. Not all places such as manufacturing have the advantage of being closed during these “stages”...
— Dave
The tradition started in Germany to save coal, but like you’d mentioned, where is the savings on electricity for lighting, and the US is now one-hundred-years into this practice, having started in 1918...
In addition to Arizona, what other places in the United States or the world don’t have to move their clocks forward or back? (Yes, should I think of moving there?)
I have turned back all my clocks but a couple wall clocks, one so high up that I need to stand on something, and another that is in the living room awkwardly over the TV, and both must be taken down to set, and each make bird noises each top of the hour...
Oh, and another wall clock in the kitchen I don’t often look at unless the stove clock has the temperature and the microwave clock is used for the timer I’m more alert to when cooking needs checking or is finished...
I shockingly had to set the clock in my car, even thinking I was running late for work, and know I wil have to m6 wife’s clock in her car... —Very surprised our new cars, least of all mine and the one I had before never did them by themselves...
And don’t get me started on workplaces where you gain or lose an hour on your productive time because of this.,. Not all places such as manufacturing have the advantage of being closed during these “stages”...
— Dave
I think a lot of people think that Daylight Savings Time is in the winter when it gets dark early, when it's the opposite.
We're debating ending it
There's a national consultation going on here in Ireland about daylight saving time at the moment. The European Parliament voted on a proposal to look at ending it right across the EU. At present most countries observe it and they all switch over on a coordinated day:
2am on last Sunday of October clocks go back.
1am on last Sunday of March clocks go forward.
We're pretty far north (Dublin is roughly in line with Edmonton Alberta) and a lot of Northern European cities are much further north still, so it actually does have a significant impact as the days are very short in winter and very long in summer.
There's a national consultation going on here in Ireland about daylight saving time at the moment. The European Parliament voted on a proposal to look at ending it right across the EU. At present most countries observe it and they all switch over on a coordinated day:
2am on last Sunday of October clocks go back.
1am on last Sunday of March clocks go forward.
We're pretty far north (Dublin is roughly in line with Edmonton Alberta) and a lot of Northern European cities are much further north still, so it actually does have a significant impact as the days are very short in winter and very long in summer.
kb0nes
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Loving the fact that as technology improves there are less and less clocks in my life that need to be touched. Only have two in the house now that don't adjust themselves, the stove and microwave. Wish I could just turn those displays off as I never look at either anyhow.
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