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Cool <br
Very robust, looks very nice in place
Please let us know on performance
When did you actually install them
Will you be doing videos
I hope one day i'll have a set too <br
Have fun!
 
Never seem these in anyones home, they must be sold in VERY small numbers in the UK <br
I wonder who does the after sales service for them <br
Dont know anything about this make at all, with the bolt down base plate I assume they are semi commercial <br
Look nice and solid built? What about lifting the lid on the appliances chestermike?
 
Mike! LOVE the new addtions!!! I can't wait to see more! I see you have the washer on the left this time :-) to do with the door hinging? <br
I do hope those lovely maytaskos are safe and sound and won't be forgotten....if they need a new home....;- <br
Darren
 
If miele ever goes

out of business... hopefully V-zug has it's TOL models available for me!
BTW is V-zug part of the BSH group or so? (The transportbolts reminded me of BSH, so does the manual lay-out)
 
Adorable Adora

Thanks everyone for the messages, am busy doing pics n vids!!!

Phillip: 1600rpm 8kg load, it just hums on spin and the motor just powers through the revs!!

Gary: i dont think you`ll be finding many of these in later years!!...lol almost are indestructable!!! good speaking to you this morning!!

Laundress: I`ll see what I can sort out!!! you would love the dryer I`m sure, it just seems to "SUCK" the moisture from the clothes, not noticed excess heat like a condenser, AND a dryer thats quiet without being vented!

Louis: yes have just ordered a mains power pack for the camera, I`ll take you throught the progs...dont forget, only 45mins from Manchester.

Paul, yes along the same lines but with a difference I`m liking...

Darren K: yes dont worry the Maytag Asko`s are staying, I just love those machines, especially the styling as they both look identical, thats the only thing that bugs me about the Adoras!! loving the clothesline special by the way!!

Rudin: Congratulations, will have to compare wash results, so far great for me!!!

Lee: yes very easy to use, Touch & Go, as well as variables. Doesnt have a Start/Stop button though, automatically start after 20secs following programme selection or switches off if not in use.

Rolls Rapide: Oh yes that was my first thought, anti flood device that breaks your pipes - not good, have asked the question about whats required

Dyson2Drums: installed on friday just before the gang decended for the weekend, still finding my way around the programming, so far so good.

Bertrum: you wouldnt, they are just released into UK, 5yrs guarantee covered by Independant Service, not promoted as Semi-Commercial, will do more inside pics

Toggles: WetClean with a Steam Finish?? what do you reckon??

Darren: Gotta get some dates sorted!!! having just installed them the existing plumbing dictated the installation, didnt want to put any extra weight on my pipes with the anti-flood device, I prefer them the other way round like the Maytag (which are well staying.. Lol) have not turned the dryer door as am waiting for a stacking kit to take some Stack photos for the shop!!

Chris: Adorable indeed, the visitors couldnt wait to strip their beds n use it...LOl

VintageHoover: Jack -no problem, glad you got to see them, - yes pixiedust indeedy!!if you get a chance look at the Vintage Zugs with Louis - marvellous!!

AskoMiele: similar but thats where it ends, the user manuals are very Swedish, written like my previous pair

Top Inside: polydrum in two halves, solid metal harness supports,

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Rear

The baseplate is a few inches thick of moulded polycarbon, very rigid and lots of fibre side panel sound insulation.

The three moulded pipes on the LHS from the water inlet / powder dispenser are the baffle stability fill pipes, the first time I used it I couldnt make out what was happening, fill inject stop fill inject stop as it was spinning....

And what other washer has its own Black Box of tricks..thats the speed / motor controller and on board computer linked to the top panel.

It uses the power of the water heater for the STEAM function, which makes sense of exisiting technology and as steam rises its in the right place under the drum to start with.

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V-Zug Adora with ....

VAS - Vibration Absorbing System, diagram showing how the water is pumped to the baffles individually to aid vibration & stability!! When I first saw the Zug Adora I thought it pumped water to the baffles like the Titan did for washing!!! As it has a water jet that showers the clothes as well I like this version of events better...

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Nice looking machine. Never seen one before. The top has a kind of 'traditional' look to it but the door and drum etc look modern, shame about the Poly tub - very similar to the Electrolux group Carboran tubs.

Great machine though.
 
Was Reading The Owner's Manual

For this washer and it tis a rather interesting beast.

First and foremost the washer is designed for those living in multi-family housing (lofts, apartments, etc), thus the emphasis on anti-vibration and silence when running.

Cold fill only, but a powerful enough heater to get water boiling quite quickly, this also functions to make steam for those cycles.

Bio cycle uses stepped washing temperatures (starts cold, holds at warm for a bit, then goes onto whatever high temp one has requested). Dispenses the detergent first, then sends the bleach down once the unit resumes heating for the "boil wash" or "hot wash" portion.

Soap wash cycle dispenses water conditioner first, then after several minutes sends the soap detergent down into the drum. This mimics how laundry should be done when using pure soap or soap based detergents in that water is first softened with chemicals to bind minerals, then soap is added. This means less soap is required because of the soft water, and also helps prevent scum from forming.

Turbidity sensor adjusts washing and rinsing to suit soil levels. However one can also choose soil levels as part of wash program.

Wetcleaning cycle, steam cleaning cycle for various clothing, and the unit can even steam clean itself. This last bit replaces the need for maintenence wash cycles.

Still, only a 5kg load size, which is normal for Europe, the UK and elsewhere, still seems small by US standards.

As for the "plastic" outer tub, think pretty much all high end washers are going that way, Miele and so forth. Allows one bit less stainless steel, and does cut down a bit on weight. I mean the stuff is used for hulls on yachts that cost very dear and one has not heard many complaints.

L.
 
Drum Size

yes its deffo an 8kg "LARGE" drum...was able to get two double bed complete sets in it no problem, 2 x duvets covers, bottom sheets and 8 pillow cases....

Outer Drum: yes I was disapointed not to be SS, unless the new Asko`s are changed to poly as well, the new range of Maytagaskos as well as the old have much to offer in price, features and functionality...

Bio Wash: this one is interesting, anyone seeing that on the control panel and not reading the book would assume Wash starts from cold and heats up in profile stages.....this Zug programe has a second stage when using two part multi-component detergent, i.e. Alkaline Detergent + Bleach

Part one: first the alkaline detergent with softener is added to the wash from the MAIN wash compartment & then suds are heated to 40c, then..
Part two: Around 6 mins later the bleach component is added via compartment one, the pre-wash compartment...

Does anybody know of any Euro detergents (household) that do this???

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chestermikeuk That machine is very awesome!!! I just wish that such FL machines existed in the US. Very boxy, Like it!! tilting consoles, I like it even more!! I hope they operate for you repair-free for years to come. They do indeed look like they are very solid machines.
 
Sorry about the mix up in washer capacity/size, must have gotten hold of a manual for a different model.

Must be some very hard water in V-Zug land as it makes so many references to water conditioners. Most laundry detergents sold in the EU/UK are more than capable of dealing with the often rock hard water in some areas. Though one can purchase either soda crystals or Calgon to soften water as well, but many washing machine repairmen say it is really not required if one is dosing detergent correctly.

Noticed the thing about dispensing "bleach" later in the cycle as well. For those in the USA note that when European washing machine makers and others refer to bleach, they most always mean oxygen type, not chlorine. One can purchase all and sundry sorts of oxygen bleaches to add to wash cycles in the EU/UK. Range goes from Vanish type stain removers to "FleckenSalz" to liquid hydrogen peroxide. The powders are mainly sodium percarbonate which is rapidly replacing sodium perborate in EU/UK for various reasons.

IIRC most TOL and even MOL laundry detergents in the EU/UK are still designed for long step cycle washes, even if the final wash temperature is less than "boiling". This is also possible with detergents labled designed for "quick washes".

Find when using Persil, things are normally clean long before the water reaches boiling, this is perhaps Henkel's push to promote cleaning in cold or cool water.
 

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