Vanish or Oxi Clean
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dave886
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oxi powder for whites & vanish for colours, because vanish is very weak, wash the soil item on a long wash with prewash selected just for boost of cleaning action
iheartmaytag
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I'm thinking you must be speaking of a different Vanish than my mother used to use. Vanish used to be a toilet bowl cleaner.
So, Oxi-clean for me.
So, Oxi-clean for me.
Vanish
Is a brand of oxygen bleach based laundry products from Reckitt Benckiser sold many in the EU, UK and elsewhere outside the USA. In the States similar products were sold under the brand "Spray n Wash Pink" tablets, powder and other in wash stain remover products. RB discontinued the line a few years ago but Vanish is still sold.
Is a brand of oxygen bleach based laundry products from Reckitt Benckiser sold many in the EU, UK and elsewhere outside the USA. In the States similar products were sold under the brand "Spray n Wash Pink" tablets, powder and other in wash stain remover products. RB discontinued the line a few years ago but Vanish is still sold.
Per se oxygen bleaches alone do not break down fats, and proteins, but they will make laundry whiter and remove stains. To remove the soils mentioned there are various other substances such as washing soda, surfactants, enzymes, borax etc... These can often be found mixed with some oxygen based bleach/stain removers or on their own.
Oxiclean powder is not a great choice for oxygen bleach as it is >50% washing soda IIRC. You would be much better off with either pure sodium percarbonate or at least the offerings of stain removers with oxygen bleach and enzymes from Vanish, P&G (Tide or Ariel), and so forth.
Washing soda (sodium carbonate) is added to oxygen bleaches to increase the pH making the in water solution more alkaline which enhances performance. Truth to tell sodium percarbonate already contains enough washing soda to do the job on it's own and the balance often comes from powdered laundry detergents that contain sodium carbonate. If a oxygen bleach product must contain washing soda choose one with the lowest ratio of sodium carbonate to sodium percarbonate. Excess washing soda is used mainly as filler and really not necessary.
Oxiclean powder is not a great choice for oxygen bleach as it is >50% washing soda IIRC. You would be much better off with either pure sodium percarbonate or at least the offerings of stain removers with oxygen bleach and enzymes from Vanish, P&G (Tide or Ariel), and so forth.
Washing soda (sodium carbonate) is added to oxygen bleaches to increase the pH making the in water solution more alkaline which enhances performance. Truth to tell sodium percarbonate already contains enough washing soda to do the job on it's own and the balance often comes from powdered laundry detergents that contain sodium carbonate. If a oxygen bleach product must contain washing soda choose one with the lowest ratio of sodium carbonate to sodium percarbonate. Excess washing soda is used mainly as filler and really not necessary.
thor
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thor
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Thanks Launderess, your info is super clear. I use Miele's ultrawhite detergent . it works well to keep white the laundry but is not so good to remove stains. I've tried the with bleach (vivid) and it is better on stais but not so good to keep white. Some times I use vanish in powder , the white one, and it works but close are a little stiff also after 4 rinses and a dryer. So I was thinking to try oxi clean but your info I keep what I have. Only the Miele detergent is not so good on stain plus it works best at 70º C.
thanks.
thanks.
strongenough78
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Spray N Wash Pink!!! I LOVED that stuff!!!! They don't sell it anymore 
glenfieldmathk1
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I use Vanish OxiAction ExtraHygiene when I wash my chef whites at 60C in my washing machine.
It works very well at removing stains from the chef white alongside the Persil Nonbio tablets that are used, compared to using tablets on their own. Not sure how much bacteria it kills, though it does mention on the packaging 99.9% of bacteria killed.
It seems to work better than Ariel stain remover which I tried with Persil, and the two cancel each other out, meaning I had to re-wash anyway. Waste of money buying Ariel stain remover really.
I'm guessing oxiclean is pretty much the same product as Vanish OxiAction?
It works very well at removing stains from the chef white alongside the Persil Nonbio tablets that are used, compared to using tablets on their own. Not sure how much bacteria it kills, though it does mention on the packaging 99.9% of bacteria killed.
It seems to work better than Ariel stain remover which I tried with Persil, and the two cancel each other out, meaning I had to re-wash anyway. Waste of money buying Ariel stain remover really.
I'm guessing oxiclean is pretty much the same product as Vanish OxiAction?
Glenfield, why don't you use plain biological powder on your chef whites - it will do the same job as adding an extra stain remover as that contains enzymes anyway, and will render the main function of non biological detergent (i.e. the lack of enzymes) useless. This way you will save money too without having to add stain removers which can work out quite expensive per wash!
I have never experienced stain removers cancelling detergent out (and I have used Ariel and Vanish in the past), to the point of rewashing being necessary... Ariel and Vanish are more or less identical in principal formulation (just like Ariel and Persil detergent) - so there is no reason why Ariel will "cancel out" detergent and Vanish won't.
Jon
I have never experienced stain removers cancelling detergent out (and I have used Ariel and Vanish in the past), to the point of rewashing being necessary... Ariel and Vanish are more or less identical in principal formulation (just like Ariel and Persil detergent) - so there is no reason why Ariel will "cancel out" detergent and Vanish won't.
Jon
glenfieldmathk1
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Jon, I will try Bio Detergent, maybe then no more Vanish needed!! But I really used the Vanish for hygiene reasons, as I cannot afford to keep washing at 95C, yet don't want my chef whites to be unhygienic, and even a 60C wash in my machine is short, probably doesn't kill all of them. Can you suggest a different hygiene additive, or does Bio detergent disinfect anyway?
Meanwhile when I used Ariel and Persil, the stain didn't lift out and there wasn't many suds. The suds which were there looked a but like Tablet Soap suds.
Meanwhile when I used Ariel and Persil, the stain didn't lift out and there wasn't many suds. The suds which were there looked a but like Tablet Soap suds.
I would imagine a 60*C wash with a biological detergent would suffice anyway, without having to resort to hygiene additives. Hot water and soap will kill most germs.
A cost-effective alternative would be to use a tiny bit of Dettol or Zoflora in the final rinse. If you have access to a cash and carry, Persil and Ariel both do Hygiene versions of their professional powders.
How much powder do you use? If you are saying you don't see suds and stains aren't removed, perhaps you are underdosing.
Jon
A cost-effective alternative would be to use a tiny bit of Dettol or Zoflora in the final rinse. If you have access to a cash and carry, Persil and Ariel both do Hygiene versions of their professional powders.
How much powder do you use? If you are saying you don't see suds and stains aren't removed, perhaps you are underdosing.
Jon
The German consumer magazine tested many stain removers and only Sil powder by Henkel did well. All the others not so much. Powders did better than gels or liquids.
I see that all these stain removers are basically expensive detergent (oxy + enzymes) so I think a little extra detergent would do just as well at removing stains . I also see that Vanish says to add one scoop to four liters of water, letting it all soak for an hour to achieve the antibacterial effect. How's that possible in a washing machine that surely uses more than four liters per fill?
I see that all these stain removers are basically expensive detergent (oxy + enzymes) so I think a little extra detergent would do just as well at removing stains . I also see that Vanish says to add one scoop to four liters of water, letting it all soak for an hour to achieve the antibacterial effect. How's that possible in a washing machine that surely uses more than four liters per fill?
ronhic
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even a 60C wash in my machine is short,
Mat,
Not quite sure what you are using, but it maybe worthwhile to engage the pre-wash option if you have one with a half dose of detergent in addition to the longest cotton 60c cycle if things don't come clean with Persil/Ariel or, as an alternative, ALDI Almat Stain Lifter Bio. This was the best detergent in the last Which? test by 5%....
.....and as a bonus, it costs 1/3 the amount to use @ 11p per load compared to 30p for Ariel.
Mat,
Not quite sure what you are using, but it maybe worthwhile to engage the pre-wash option if you have one with a half dose of detergent in addition to the longest cotton 60c cycle if things don't come clean with Persil/Ariel or, as an alternative, ALDI Almat Stain Lifter Bio. This was the best detergent in the last Which? test by 5%....
.....and as a bonus, it costs 1/3 the amount to use @ 11p per load compared to 30p for Ariel.
gmmcnair
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Washing Soda and Borax
I make my own laundry soap...no not the dreck you see posted on the Internet...real natural liquid soap made with potassium hydroxide. It works great in soft water although I have no optical brightener.
When my clothes are extra dirty, on my white stuff, I usually add some borax to the wash to boost things and whiten. I usually follow up with a line dry in the sun if I can. My whites are splendidly white.
Colored stuff like dish towels I use a bit of washing soda b/c I think its alkalinity helps boost oily stain removal a bit better.
I make my own laundry soap...no not the dreck you see posted on the Internet...real natural liquid soap made with potassium hydroxide. It works great in soft water although I have no optical brightener.
When my clothes are extra dirty, on my white stuff, I usually add some borax to the wash to boost things and whiten. I usually follow up with a line dry in the sun if I can. My whites are splendidly white.
Colored stuff like dish towels I use a bit of washing soda b/c I think its alkalinity helps boost oily stain removal a bit better.
glenfieldmathk1
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@ronhic - I will try ALDI when the persil is all gone.
My machine does have a pre-wash, but It causes the electronic/timer to stop working properly, meaning I have to pull the machine all the way out, remove the plug, then plug it back in, before it unfreezes and allows me to select a wash, so I won't do a pre-wash in it, I do however if really needed boil (95) or run it through a pre-rinse. (basically It Holds, and doesn't come out of Hold).
I will be trying Dettol in the future too.
Meanwhile Jon, I am certainly not under dosing. one Chef jacket, one trousers, one Apron - 2 Persil Tablets. Really don't think that's under dosing, more like Over dosing.
I am just saying the one time I tried Ariel Stain remover with the Persil Tabs, no suds at all, 60C wash and needed re-washing due to dirt another 60 wash.
I gave the Ariel to my Uncle, who has Ariel anyway, and he's happy with it.
At least with Vanish, the suds concentration increases slightly, and things come out clean.
I am unsure where my local cash & Carry is, though could order some online, if everything else fails.
My machine does have a pre-wash, but It causes the electronic/timer to stop working properly, meaning I have to pull the machine all the way out, remove the plug, then plug it back in, before it unfreezes and allows me to select a wash, so I won't do a pre-wash in it, I do however if really needed boil (95) or run it through a pre-rinse. (basically It Holds, and doesn't come out of Hold).
I will be trying Dettol in the future too.
Meanwhile Jon, I am certainly not under dosing. one Chef jacket, one trousers, one Apron - 2 Persil Tablets. Really don't think that's under dosing, more like Over dosing.
I am just saying the one time I tried Ariel Stain remover with the Persil Tabs, no suds at all, 60C wash and needed re-washing due to dirt another 60 wash.
I gave the Ariel to my Uncle, who has Ariel anyway, and he's happy with it.
At least with Vanish, the suds concentration increases slightly, and things come out clean.
I am unsure where my local cash & Carry is, though could order some online, if everything else fails.
paulc
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Mat,
Poundstretcher sell 100 wash boxes of Professional Ariel Antibacterial Plus for £16.99. It is very good and claims to disinfect at 40 deg ( as long as the contact time exceeds 10 mins ). I have really soft water so get away with 50ml per load so actually I should get 200 washes out of a box. A LOT cheaper than buying ordinary Ariel Bio from the supermarket.
Poundstretcher sell 100 wash boxes of Professional Ariel Antibacterial Plus for £16.99. It is very good and claims to disinfect at 40 deg ( as long as the contact time exceeds 10 mins ). I have really soft water so get away with 50ml per load so actually I should get 200 washes out of a box. A LOT cheaper than buying ordinary Ariel Bio from the supermarket.
