Mpls. CL. I've used these and they are amazing.
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Vintage Hobart Buffalo Chopper
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Those Hobart choppers are popular out my way at the Carolina BBQ places.The Hobart machines show up in the used restuarant equipment places from time to time.they can also be used with other Hobart attachments-meat grinders and such.the Capitol BBQ place here in Ayden has a HUGE floor mounted Hobart chopper.They need it-the most popular Carolina BBQ place in the area!So Good!
norgeway
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Ayden!
Thats Pete Jones place isnt it!!! That IS some good Q !!
Thats Pete Jones place isnt it!!! That IS some good Q !!
Yes,beleive it is-has a replica capitol "dome" on the roof of the building.
toploader55
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Hobart Buffalo
That is a Very Old Model. When you want to change out the bowl, you take off the cover, and at the base of the motor, there is a large Thumb Screw. Loosten that and the Whole Motor tips to the left.
Very Powerful and Dangerous Machines. I use one everyday at the restaurant I work at and it is pretty rare that I'll let anyone operate it until I've instructed them how to use it, and then I'll stand there and watch them at least a dozen times or so until I am comfortable with their use of this machine. Those spinning blades could easily take off multiple fingers or a hand.
That Model is also Direct Drive which the Newer Version that I use (1974) has a belt drive system. I don't think they make those anymore. Stevet ???????
That is a Very Old Model. When you want to change out the bowl, you take off the cover, and at the base of the motor, there is a large Thumb Screw. Loosten that and the Whole Motor tips to the left.
Very Powerful and Dangerous Machines. I use one everyday at the restaurant I work at and it is pretty rare that I'll let anyone operate it until I've instructed them how to use it, and then I'll stand there and watch them at least a dozen times or so until I am comfortable with their use of this machine. Those spinning blades could easily take off multiple fingers or a hand.
That Model is also Direct Drive which the Newer Version that I use (1974) has a belt drive system. I don't think they make those anymore. Stevet ???????
Isn't the blade cover or guard over the knives on these interlocked-the machine won't start unless the guard is in place and closed down over the knives.
norgeway
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Buffalo Chopper Vs finger!
My Grandmother cut her little finger off with one of these in the late 50s, She worked in a school lunchroom and was making slaw and pushed the cabbage TOO far, when she pulled her hand out her little finger was hanging by a piece of skin!!, Our local surgeon sewed it back on, she didnt lose it, but it was stiff from then on,so yes, these things can take off fingers quickly.
My Grandmother cut her little finger off with one of these in the late 50s, She worked in a school lunchroom and was making slaw and pushed the cabbage TOO far, when she pulled her hand out her little finger was hanging by a piece of skin!!, Our local surgeon sewed it back on, she didnt lose it, but it was stiff from then on,so yes, these things can take off fingers quickly.
toploader55
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Interlock
Yes there is one, but the design of the machine is Very Scary as the opening where the food goes in and comes out is wide open and one could definately (through not paying attention or being careless) loose fingers or even a hand.
Yes there is one, but the design of the machine is Very Scary as the opening where the food goes in and comes out is wide open and one could definately (through not paying attention or being careless) loose fingers or even a hand.
So,while using the Hobart Chopper---KEEP HANDS AWAY!!!Would have thought the opening for the blade guards would be not large enough to allow a finger or hand to get under it.Haven't examined one of these tools in awhile.so,treat it with the same respect as a power tool like a table,radial,saw,or a band saw-WATCH WHERE YOUR HANDS ARE!!!And another tool where you should watch where your paws are---Sheet metal squaring shears-manually powered(foot treadle) or powered.Any of the above tools will give you a quick and undesired manacure!
toploader55
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Hobart
I will go to the restaurant today or tomorrow and take some pics of the design and hazzards of this machine.
I will go to the restaurant today or tomorrow and take some pics of the design and hazzards of this machine.
At our plants we have several of the big choppers that are 8 to 12 feet across to blend ingredients to be added to chopped and formed chicken nuggets, patties. Our covers cover it all while blending the raise and the blades stop but the bowl turns to empty against a shield into a converor belt or a large cart that then goes to the large miser to blend with the meat and be chilled so it can be formed then go through a predust, batter, breader cycle and into a fryer to be either fully cooked or par fried (to set the coating) then into a big spiral freezer and on to packaging.
norgeway
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Dangerous Tools!!
Anyone who ever worked in a furniture plant knows what a veneer clipper is!! A huge air operated knife!! it will clip off a hand just as quick as it will a two inch thick stack of veneer panels!!
Anyone who ever worked in a furniture plant knows what a veneer clipper is!! A huge air operated knife!! it will clip off a hand just as quick as it will a two inch thick stack of veneer panels!!
toploader55
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Buffalo Pics
#1
This is the machine I use in the Summer.
#1
This is the machine I use in the Summer.
toploader55
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#2
This is the machine not yet assembled for Chopping. This is the way the Dishwashers must put the machine away after they wash the parts.
I want no one to assemble this machine unless I have instructed them to and have been authorized by me
This is the machine not yet assembled for Chopping. This is the way the Dishwashers must put the machine away after they wash the parts.
I want no one to assemble this machine unless I have instructed them to and have been authorized by me
toploader55
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#3
Here is the Blade attached to the Drive Shaft and the Knife Guide in Place.
The Blades spin on the shaft at 3450 RPM while the Bowl Rotates at about Record Player speed 33 RPM or so.
Here is the Blade attached to the Drive Shaft and the Knife Guide in Place.
The Blades spin on the shaft at 3450 RPM while the Bowl Rotates at about Record Player speed 33 RPM or so.
toploader55
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#4
Here is the Machine with the Cover in Place. There is a Knob on the back of the cover which only when everything is aligned and assembled properly will engage the safety switch to let the operator turn it on.
The Bowl rotates from Left to right. Notice the Large openings at both ends of the Cover which can Very Easily accomodate a Whole entire Hand.
Under the Dome in the Center of the Cover is where the Blades are spinning at 3450 RPM.
Safe Machine ??? I THINK NOT !!![this post was last edited: 2/27/2012-11:29]
Here is the Machine with the Cover in Place. There is a Knob on the back of the cover which only when everything is aligned and assembled properly will engage the safety switch to let the operator turn it on.
The Bowl rotates from Left to right. Notice the Large openings at both ends of the Cover which can Very Easily accomodate a Whole entire Hand.
Under the Dome in the Center of the Cover is where the Blades are spinning at 3450 RPM.
Safe Machine ??? I THINK NOT !!![this post was last edited: 2/27/2012-11:29]
toploader55
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#5
Here is a Pic which I took by angleing the Camera to get a shot from the bottom of the Bowl as to what it looks like under the cover.
Note the Precise Clearence Proximity of the Tip of the Blade to the bowl.
The Product to be chopped should be cut down into a Uniform Cube or Dice to insure uniformity of processing. Another words , you should Quarter the Onions, Or rough chop the Celery, Carrots, or Meat so when it goes through the machine it comes out evenly and uniformaly chopped. The more revolutions the bowl and product go though, the finer the product will be.
I should have shot a video of it running. Maybe I'll go back later and do that.
This is Hobart Quality Engineering. It's no wonder why there machines last this long.
Here is a Pic which I took by angleing the Camera to get a shot from the bottom of the Bowl as to what it looks like under the cover.
Note the Precise Clearence Proximity of the Tip of the Blade to the bowl.
The Product to be chopped should be cut down into a Uniform Cube or Dice to insure uniformity of processing. Another words , you should Quarter the Onions, Or rough chop the Celery, Carrots, or Meat so when it goes through the machine it comes out evenly and uniformaly chopped. The more revolutions the bowl and product go though, the finer the product will be.
I should have shot a video of it running. Maybe I'll go back later and do that.
This is Hobart Quality Engineering. It's no wonder why there machines last this long.
toploader55
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#6
This is the "Power Hub.
The Lever on the Left Engages and Disengages the PTO. (Power Take Off) from the Drive Motor.
This Hub powers accesories such as a Meat Grinder, Power Shredder/Slicer, Power Dicer etc.
This machine saves Hours of Slicing, Shredding and Chopping per day.
Only good for bulk items, I still use a Cuisinart type processor for smaller batches of things such as Chopping Shallots, Garlic and Pureeing smaller quantities.
This is the "Power Hub.
The Lever on the Left Engages and Disengages the PTO. (Power Take Off) from the Drive Motor.
This Hub powers accesories such as a Meat Grinder, Power Shredder/Slicer, Power Dicer etc.
This machine saves Hours of Slicing, Shredding and Chopping per day.
Only good for bulk items, I still use a Cuisinart type processor for smaller batches of things such as Chopping Shallots, Garlic and Pureeing smaller quantities.
toploader55
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Here's a little Demo Vid.
The Restaurant is closed for the Winter, so there is No Food to Chop !!!
This will give you an idea of what this machine is about.
The Restaurant is closed for the Winter, so there is No Food to Chop !!!
This will give you an idea of what this machine is about.
The Chopper shown in the video clip is like some of the ones I see in the restuarant supply places traded in on new ones.So,indeed,keep hand away from the tool when it is running-the same respect for a table,or band,radial saw.The openings in the knife cover are indeed large enough for a finger,hand,or even a hand utensil to get under.So with that guy-put your food into the bowel,then allow it to work until your food is chopped to the texture you want.
The Veneer cutter must be like a sheet metal shop squaring shears.These can be foot-kick powered by stepping on the foot treadle to lower the blade.Or powered-a motor turns a flywheel that power the blade-or hydraulic-as whats at our plant-the hydraulic system lowers the blade.and the shear can cut other items besides sheet metal.I use it to cut dielectric material for "sandwich" caps for our transmitters.since I can't cut straight with regualr shears-the squaring shears does the work for me-I just watch wear my paws are before lowering the blade.
The Veneer cutter must be like a sheet metal shop squaring shears.These can be foot-kick powered by stepping on the foot treadle to lower the blade.Or powered-a motor turns a flywheel that power the blade-or hydraulic-as whats at our plant-the hydraulic system lowers the blade.and the shear can cut other items besides sheet metal.I use it to cut dielectric material for "sandwich" caps for our transmitters.since I can't cut straight with regualr shears-the squaring shears does the work for me-I just watch wear my paws are before lowering the blade.
toploader55
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The review on YouTube
Someone posted that they thought the machine in my clip said "Not so sure what's unsafe."
Hello... Spinning Blades, Space Cadet, Oh well...
Someone posted that they thought the machine in my clip said "Not so sure what's unsafe."
Hello... Spinning Blades, Space Cadet, Oh well...
I can agree-on the You Tube person-yes--ANY machine with spinning blades is-----DANGEROUS!!What does that person think is in his lawnmower?
Eddie thanks for that fine demo vid. Hobart also has the best meat tenderizer i have ever used. It could tenderize chicken breasts to make Chicken Cordon Bleu without ripping them to pieces. saved lots of time over pounding each one individually. It kind of looked like a large toaster, if i would ever see one at a restaurant supply i would sure buy it. The one we used was an "afterschool" gig in the late 1970's Im sure it was purchased used like all the other kitchen equipment at that job. Hobart truly made Serious equipment. alr
toploader55
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Thanks Guys...
I used a Hobart Meat Tenderizer 37 years ago. I remember that date because it was the only time I ever ran across one in a Kitchen. Great Machine and did a Awsome job. If I remember the "Teeth" were pretty much out of fingers reach. But I only used it a few times and they were tricky to clean too.
I haven't been to a Restaurant show in decades. I'm sure Hobart is still the leader in Sales and Design but as in anything made today, I'm sure there are some sacrifices made along the way to boost profits.
The last Kitchen I ran had a Meiko Dishwasher. Cleaned very good. As this was a Breakfast Restaurant and we all know about dried on Egg Yolk especially after it sits in a Bus Pan for 1/2 an hour during the slow period of the morning. Normally One pass and they were clean. But not a dependable machine by any means. The construction of the machine was decent except they used a Plastic Manifold to feed the Upper Wash Arm. What a Stupid Design. Most people you hire to run a DishMachine generally don't give a Rat's Ass about abusing the machine as far as slamming the racks in and jamming sheet pans in the thing just so they have to wash a little by hand. To replace this Plastic Manifold, had the ticket price of almost $800.00. It should be Stainless like everything else in the machine. Why they chose plastic is Just Plain Stupid. And 3 pumps. Wash, Rinse and Drain. Yeah, Yeah. eliminates the need for 20 psi Line Rinse pressure and cheaper to hook up than a Gravity Drain that needs to be hard piped in, but just MORE to go wrong. Did have the same "Waterproof" System like the Miele Dishwashers and Washers. Which was also a pain in the butt always on a busy Saturday or Sunday Morning. (Those of us in the business know that if there is going to be Mechanical Failure with any piece of Equipment, it's going to be on a Weekend or Holiday).
Glad you enjoyed the video as most people have no idea what a "Buffalo" - Food Chopper is.
Here is a Pic of the Meiko Machine.
I used a Hobart Meat Tenderizer 37 years ago. I remember that date because it was the only time I ever ran across one in a Kitchen. Great Machine and did a Awsome job. If I remember the "Teeth" were pretty much out of fingers reach. But I only used it a few times and they were tricky to clean too.
I haven't been to a Restaurant show in decades. I'm sure Hobart is still the leader in Sales and Design but as in anything made today, I'm sure there are some sacrifices made along the way to boost profits.
The last Kitchen I ran had a Meiko Dishwasher. Cleaned very good. As this was a Breakfast Restaurant and we all know about dried on Egg Yolk especially after it sits in a Bus Pan for 1/2 an hour during the slow period of the morning. Normally One pass and they were clean. But not a dependable machine by any means. The construction of the machine was decent except they used a Plastic Manifold to feed the Upper Wash Arm. What a Stupid Design. Most people you hire to run a DishMachine generally don't give a Rat's Ass about abusing the machine as far as slamming the racks in and jamming sheet pans in the thing just so they have to wash a little by hand. To replace this Plastic Manifold, had the ticket price of almost $800.00. It should be Stainless like everything else in the machine. Why they chose plastic is Just Plain Stupid. And 3 pumps. Wash, Rinse and Drain. Yeah, Yeah. eliminates the need for 20 psi Line Rinse pressure and cheaper to hook up than a Gravity Drain that needs to be hard piped in, but just MORE to go wrong. Did have the same "Waterproof" System like the Miele Dishwashers and Washers. Which was also a pain in the butt always on a busy Saturday or Sunday Morning. (Those of us in the business know that if there is going to be Mechanical Failure with any piece of Equipment, it's going to be on a Weekend or Holiday).
Glad you enjoyed the video as most people have no idea what a "Buffalo" - Food Chopper is.
Here is a Pic of the Meiko Machine.
toploader55
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Plastic Manifold Upper Wash Feed
$800 for that Grey Plasic Tube. Zheesh !!!
$800 for that Grey Plasic Tube. Zheesh !!!
Meiko
DW's are OK but I'd take a Hobart AM-14 over that any day!
DW's are OK but I'd take a Hobart AM-14 over that any day!
toploader55
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AM 14
I'm with you Nick on that.
Hobart is 99.9% indestructable. I think the first thing an operator could break is the doors. Ya know around where the handles attach to the door ?
But inside they're all SS construction. I just saw a New AM with the One Piece door. Ewwwwwww. Makes it look like a Meiko.
I'm with you Nick on that.
Hobart is 99.9% indestructable. I think the first thing an operator could break is the doors. Ya know around where the handles attach to the door ?
But inside they're all SS construction. I just saw a New AM with the One Piece door. Ewwwwwww. Makes it look like a Meiko.
Am-15
It may look like a Meiko but is built much heavier and not nearly as complex. But yeah I like the 14 better. I'll take some pics and video soon and post it.
It may look like a Meiko but is built much heavier and not nearly as complex. But yeah I like the 14 better. I'll take some pics and video soon and post it.
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