Vintage window a/c's

[ovrphil]

Ken

Great work and love your interest with your A/C's...along with some others who do the same.

In the not too distant future, we'll be in a house again. Without explaining all the details as to why and so one, a new HVAC was just installed last year, and we're still paying our half on it. If the house was without any air, I'd look into a single unit (it's a 1150 ft2 home) - wonder if that would be less costly in terms of cooling costs? Michigan has some warm summers, but they're never long.

Great thread and thanks for sharing your craft/interests.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Just some more stuff I did...

Cleaned up the little emerson, tore it down to nothing. Saving it from totally rusting out.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Picked up some sweet heater fans, started glass bedding the drain pan, trying to save this old fridge

 

[emerson5000cold]

Primered the pan

Paint tomarrow and rubber sealing

 

[emerson5000cold]

Cleaned this one up..

It was really really dirty! Now it should be one happy tubing unit! And painted up some emerson parts

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[mieletag]

Is that Carry Cool a 6000 BTU or a 5800? It looks like a later built unit, but GE's access port on the compressor makes it to be an older one before the Fedders buyout in 87 or 88. I have an ealrly 6000 with the aluminum indoor fan blade and 3 5800 units with the plastic centrifugal fan. Great units you have and great job restoring them.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Thanks mietag!

This one is a 5800 btu model, I was running the compressor when it made full head pressure it sounded like it had a restriction in the evap coil. Does yours do that?

 

[mieletag]

Sorry to to not get back sooner. The 6000 and the 5800 btu units when first started and superheat is high will make (the best I can describe) a low duck decoy sound. A cross between a duck call and a sheep bleating, except lower frequency and somewhat muted. I have a 1981 GE top mount refrigerator with a static condenser. I use this only as an overflow unit now. Anytime the refrigerator is started warm, after a while the evaporator(frost free unit) will make the same sound as the larger BTU Carry Cools. The only thing that I can think of is that this is refrigerant gas flashing at the end of the cap tube going into the evaporator, until the evaporator is fully active and the superheat has come down.

I have a 1969 GE Fashionette that has copper evaporator tubing with the aluminum spine fin wrap. This unit always seems to run a high head and somewhat high superheat even after I recovered the charge, evacuated to around 200 microns, and recharged with virgin R-22. Even replacing the cap tube did nothing to lower the superheat.

I also have a 1989 GE Carry Cool that is one the higher efficiency 4000 something BTU units with the condenser off of the 5000 BTU units. This one has the Fedders Rotorex rotary compressor in it. The unit cools fine, but has a somewhat higher evaporator discharge air due to the smaller compressor and larger evaporator fan and condenser coil. The compressor has a bad discharge check valve on it and when the compressor shuts off, it will back spin the compressor till the pressures have equalized. Makes a heck of a clatter.

Hope this helps.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Thanks again lol

I'll have to get the owner to run this on a hot day and get back to me. Sounds like you keep your units in really nice shape, I like that. Picked up another hotpoint today for 24 bucks. Spotted 2 airtemps in mint shape and a hunter branded unit

 

[mieletag]

Wow, that Hotpoint/Fashionaire equivalent looks great! I would still like to get one of those, had one before but the compressor had high leakage to ground. The unit I would really like to find is a GE Slumberline or Hotpoint equivalent. Keep up the great work!

 

[emerson5000cold]

It sure is a beautiful unit!

I'm picking up tonight some real coil cleaner to really get this one clean. It is bad!

 

[yogitunes]

great jobs you got going on there......nothing like the older units, style and function...

but where are you able to get parts from, I have a whirlpool designer series from the late 90's, needing a master control switch, impossible to find.....

 

[emerson5000cold]

Well yogitunes...

I haven't had to replace any parts besides the Capacitors. I really don't know where to find parts but I think the only website would be repair clinic. Should be able to put in model and serial number and they should at least give you a part number that could led you to one on eBay. That's the best I got and thanks I try hard to keep these old units up and running.

 

[emerson5000cold]

My youtude videos






http://youtu.be/DlG4cSStUI8
http://youtu.be/gosXUhZdEys
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http://youtu.be/O5ilGygC55s
http://youtu.be/9HXL32O9NlA
http://youtu.be/8JbLi1u8Vek Believe me, you want to watch these since I had some really rare units
http://youtu.be/iR5PKKFXAQU
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http://youtu.be/20qUn2vZmcw
http://youtu.be/l234ycJhqik
http://youtu.be/lhXmNHXZvzA

 

[toploader55]

Thanks for posting those Great Videos.

Soothing Compressor sounds from years gone by.

Love the Philco Noiseless. Actually all of them.

We had in our house growing up GE, Fedders Chrysler Airtemp, Westinghouse and Whirlpool.

Our neighbors had a 23,000 BTU Coldspot. I used to love to hear that kind of a grunt/growl sound when the compressor kicked on.

Also nothing like the sound on a Humid Hot Summer's Day to hear the condensate water splashing around inside the units.

Today's units sound so anemic.

 

[supersuds]

Thanks for the videos. I was wondering how noiseless the Philco Noiselesses were...they seem quiet at least.

Wonder when Philco left the room AC business? I'd guess mid-Seventies.

I agree, Eddie. Air conditioners are the sound of summer!

 

[Unimatic1140]

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[toploader55]

I wonder how they came up with Noiseless.

That's quite a claim. But then again, all that wonderful engineering back in the day... they were more quiet than most.

Funny how the compressors from those days were louder but the sounds were so soothing, they were wonderful to sleep to.

 

[supersuds]

Absolutely. I remember the low-pitched VOOM our 1953 Mitchell made, not the high pitched whoosh you get from the newer ones. Also, it didn't rattle!

 

[emerson5000cold]

Thanks everyone! I had the Philco ford running again today. Also got my new hot point installed, just need to change the plug out so it can be plugged in lol

 

[norgeway]

Westinghouse

Built one in the 60s that was REALLY QUIET, the outside of the cabinet was built so the compressor hung about a foot or more down the wall outside, our neighbor had one and it was about as quiet as a fan running.

 

[supersuds]

The blog linked by PhilR above actually has a picture of a brochure about these unusual Westinghouse units. Looks like a good idea that probably didn't catch on with the spread of central AC.

The name "Continental SS" doesn't seem like a good idea, though, considering the WWII implications.

 

[petek]

I seem to remember Sears (in Canada at least) selling that style of a/c which hung down below the window.  

 

[beekeyknee]

Hi Ken,

It's good you're not using an acid base cleaner on those old coils. I made that mistake once. The acid will eat through the corrosion on the coils, especially where they sit in the water, and then the coil is ruined. Do you use a fin comb to straighten damaged fins on coils?

Brian

 

[ac1954]

Ac

1950s fedders weather wheel one of 3 along with 6 Philcos I’m saving from a abandoned motel

 

[sarahperdue]

Fedders envy

We've had multiple burglaries in the country over the years, and the Fedders that belonged to my grandmother's half sister is one of the things I miss the most. I think "Big Sister" was born in 1888, and the a/c could still make icicles into the 1990s.