Vintage window a/c's

[warmsecondrinse]

Welcome to the group.

 

"Not all the older units were that inefficient." When I was a kid I used the E.E.R. formula that had just come out to calculate the efficiency of my parents' 1964 Norge 10,300 btu unit. I got the formula out of the Sears catalogue. The Norge came out to 7.5 and IIRC, 7.5 and up got the label of "high-efficiency" back then.

 

"Older units blew much colder air." I agree, however another factor is dehumidification. In general the lower the humidity is, the higher the temp can get before people become uncomfortable. Newer units do not dehumidify as well as older ones. I seem to recall some discussion of this in late summer. It was just before my heart surgery so I wasn't too attentive. Anyone recall this?

 

Jim 

 

 

[emerson5000cold]

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[newvista58]

STILL SEARCHING OUT ELUSIVE FEDDERS.....

Hey Guys,

Nice A/C's. I def love the old units. Form is as important
to me as function. I've always been fascinated with the
Fedders Weather Wheel A/C's since I was very young and had
a Cousin who had a 220v one through the wall. We didn't
get an A/C till later. This was the first one I saw and
was fascinated with it.

Hence......I have been in search of any 50's / 60's Fedders
Weather Wheel to use in my place. I have managed to get
an early 60's Amana round vent "Circle of Air", an early 60's
true Chrysler Airtemp round vent casement unit, and a GE
early 60's Plastic encased window unit.

If any of you come across any Fedders, or other round vent
units, for sale in Jersey or surrounding area, PLEASE let me know

Please post any other pics. I love seeing all the different
models.

Have a Great Day.

 

[emerson5000cold]

At newvista58 I happen to have a 1962 fedders with the weather wheel but after I fully restored it, I couldn't sell it. Plus I promised the last owner I'd give him first crack at it if it where to come up for sale. They are really good units. I'll post some more pics up later

 

[newvista58]

HEY THERE EMERSON5000.....

Hope all is well. Welcome to the forum

I def would be interested in the Fedders,if you
should want to sell it, and the previous owner passes.
Thanks for letting me know.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Thx newvista, that airtemp is a rebadged fedders. That amana, would one like to sell it? Looks like a really nice unit! Well the last owner is the air conditioner guy on YouTube, LOVES old ac's. He would go nuts if I sold it someone else since I got it for free when he payed 150 for it. I hooked him up with a 1948 philco York, base model EQK,and something else. I got a comfort aire and a ge superthrust waiting to be picked up by him. Here's the link to his channel. My channel, well it's kinda a long story, but there is vintage ac videos on it. Shorter story:y channel showed up at school, got made fun of (really didn't care) ended up lock all my videos.

http://https//m.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Q6wccayA0

 

[emerson5000cold]

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[countryford]

Here are two of mine. The Fedders works great. I have promised NewVista it, but we haven't figured out how to get it to him without costing a fortune.
The second one is the G.E. Thinline. The picture was taken before I cleaned it all up. I've been told the compressor is shot on it. Had an HVAC friend of mine tell me that. I'd like to use it, but not sure about replacing the compressor.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Hey countryford

Would to I like to sell that thin line? I love the look of it! As for the fedders, it's the same as mine! Which is totally awesome!! Today I checked on my emerson quite kool drain pan to see how it the rubber coating set up and primered my kenmore dehumidifiers case

 

[travis]

Shipping

Justin:

 

You could probably strap an a/c unit to a pallet and have it shipped as LTL freight.  Shipping by freight is usually much cheaper than a private carrier.  I would check on Uship.  I recently sent a monitor top unit crated to Portland from St. Louis and back.  It was about $200 each way.

 

[newvista58]

HEY GUYS. TOO BAD WE ALL DON'T....

Live near each other. We could have a trade off / LOL.

That thinline is very cool looking, Justin.
Here is a GE I have. I think is called a
Fashionette. It works, but probably needs
A refrigerant charge. It never gets cold
Enough. Plus it vents hot air out the
Sides and the back. The hot air on the sides
Radiate back into the room tbrough the side
Curtains. I hope I can find some who will
Recharge it.

Good luck with your restorations emersoncold.
Looks good.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Thx new vista, that ge is the first I ever seen before. I hope your willing to pony up the cash for a shot of r22. It is not cheap. I plan to have the fedders and EQK rapped up by the end of the month (along as nothing happens in the process lol) is any one in the pa area? Since I'm in the Pittsburgh area. I plan on doing a full resto to the 57 fridigiare and the philco ford husky, plus I have a friend that wants his 52 philco, emerson quite kool (aka EQK) and a airtemp. Super happy to do them since I haven't seen these units before and probably never will.

 

[countryford]

emerson5000cold, The GE Thinline is not for sale, I would like to get it running. Would you be willing to assist me on getting it going?

 

[combo52]

Is My Older Window Low On Freon?

The easy way to tell is when the A/C is running on a warm day, [ over 80F ] with fairly high humidity, and if the entire evaporator gets wet with condensation and especially if the suction line [ usually the larger of the two lines attached to the compressor ] going back to the compressor gets wet with condensation you DO NOT have a low charge situation.

 

Often people assume that an older A/C needs refrigerant added, but it is seldom the case, if there was a leak it would have all leaked out years ago. Window A/Cs are not like car A/Cs where there are lots of rubber seals and a moving compressor shaft seal to leak a little refrigerant as time goes by. Window A/Cs are more like a home refrigerator, I would guess that 80%+ of home refs and window A/Cs will never need any refrigerant added to them even if they last more than 50 years.

 

John L.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Good input combo52, some older ac's do more dehumidifing then cooling. Well countryford, I'm in pa, your in Phoenix. That's a long ways

 

[newvista58]

GOOD POINT JOHN....

I definitely understand about the system being sealed,
but I don't know what else could cause the GE Fashionette
to blow cool / not cold. It does exhaust alot of Hot air.
And I have seen it condense moisture. I would love to get
it working correctly.

Any thoughts on what to do? How about you emersoncold?

Thanks again.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Well...

Like I said, some units are meant to take water out of the air then cool, there might be a Restriction (somehow) and even dirty coils/lose fan blade(s). I'd check to see that air is getting thru the coils and that there is no way air could get around the coil.

 

[newvista58]

I HAD THE WHOLE UNIT OUT......

of its case, and thoroughly cleaned all the components,
even though they weren't as dirty as some other units.

Like I said, it does exhaust a lot of Hot air, but
doesn't get cold. I'll just keep at it and see
if I can get it straightened out.

A lot of this is all about... try, try again / Lol.

 

[combo52]

GE Thin-Line A/C

Hi Louis, How many BTUs is your GE A/C? and what is the AMP draw from the name plate?, some of these units were not all that powerful.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Finally some progress...

I was busy today! Fixed the pfna compressor power wire, got the overload device locked in. Got the terminal cover bolted up. Put softer compressor springs in and put the case back on it. Got the stripes laid out on the kenmore dehumidifier case and found the wire hold downs for the fedders. Did I mention I was busy lol