Vintage window a/c's

[newvista58]

HEY GUYS. TOO BAD WE ALL DON'T....

Live near each other. We could have a trade off / LOL.

That thinline is very cool looking, Justin.
Here is a GE I have. I think is called a
Fashionette. It works, but probably needs
A refrigerant charge. It never gets cold
Enough. Plus it vents hot air out the
Sides and the back. The hot air on the sides
Radiate back into the room tbrough the side
Curtains. I hope I can find some who will
Recharge it.

Good luck with your restorations emersoncold.
Looks good.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Thx new vista, that ge is the first I ever seen before. I hope your willing to pony up the cash for a shot of r22. It is not cheap. I plan to have the fedders and EQK rapped up by the end of the month (along as nothing happens in the process lol) is any one in the pa area? Since I'm in the Pittsburgh area. I plan on doing a full resto to the 57 fridigiare and the philco ford husky, plus I have a friend that wants his 52 philco, emerson quite kool (aka EQK) and a airtemp. Super happy to do them since I haven't seen these units before and probably never will.

 

[countryford]

emerson5000cold, The GE Thinline is not for sale, I would like to get it running. Would you be willing to assist me on getting it going?

 

[combo52]

Is My Older Window Low On Freon?

The easy way to tell is when the A/C is running on a warm day, [ over 80F ] with fairly high humidity, and if the entire evaporator gets wet with condensation and especially if the suction line [ usually the larger of the two lines attached to the compressor ] going back to the compressor gets wet with condensation you DO NOT have a low charge situation.

 

Often people assume that an older A/C needs refrigerant added, but it is seldom the case, if there was a leak it would have all leaked out years ago. Window A/Cs are not like car A/Cs where there are lots of rubber seals and a moving compressor shaft seal to leak a little refrigerant as time goes by. Window A/Cs are more like a home refrigerator, I would guess that 80%+ of home refs and window A/Cs will never need any refrigerant added to them even if they last more than 50 years.

 

John L.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Good input combo52, some older ac's do more dehumidifing then cooling. Well countryford, I'm in pa, your in Phoenix. That's a long ways

 

[newvista58]

GOOD POINT JOHN....

I definitely understand about the system being sealed,
but I don't know what else could cause the GE Fashionette
to blow cool / not cold. It does exhaust alot of Hot air.
And I have seen it condense moisture. I would love to get
it working correctly.

Any thoughts on what to do? How about you emersoncold?

Thanks again.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Well...

Like I said, some units are meant to take water out of the air then cool, there might be a Restriction (somehow) and even dirty coils/lose fan blade(s). I'd check to see that air is getting thru the coils and that there is no way air could get around the coil.

 

[newvista58]

I HAD THE WHOLE UNIT OUT......

of its case, and thoroughly cleaned all the components,
even though they weren't as dirty as some other units.

Like I said, it does exhaust a lot of Hot air, but
doesn't get cold. I'll just keep at it and see
if I can get it straightened out.

A lot of this is all about... try, try again / Lol.

 

[combo52]

GE Thin-Line A/C

Hi Louis, How many BTUs is your GE A/C? and what is the AMP draw from the name plate?, some of these units were not all that powerful.

 

[emerson5000cold]

Finally some progress...

I was busy today! Fixed the pfna compressor power wire, got the overload device locked in. Got the terminal cover bolted up. Put softer compressor springs in and put the case back on it. Got the stripes laid out on the kenmore dehumidifier case and found the wire hold downs for the fedders. Did I mention I was busy lol

 

[toploader55]

That Philco Noiseless is just beautiful

 

[emerson5000cold]

Thx top loader!! In the end it cost me anywhere from 180~200 bucks (after buying it, and all the stuff needed to fully reatstore it. I could never sell it, I doubt I could even get my money back from it

 

[newvista58]

Hi John,

I will look at the unit and get back to you with that information.

Thank you.

 

[emerson5000cold]

My bets

On your ge I bet it pulls no more then 6.5-7.5 amps and is any where are 5,000-6500 btu's, my EQK is almost back together

 

[newvista58]

THE GE FASHIONETTE....

Is 5000Btu's and 7.5amps.

 

[toploader55]

This is my 1971 Chrysler Airtemp I bought when I was a Freshman in HighSchool.

The last time I fired it was about 5 years ago. I am going to dust it off when I get home.

 

[combo52]

GE Fashonette A/C

Hi Louis, Your GE A/C is not a real powerful model at just 5000 BTUs but could certainly keep a well shaded bedroom very well cooled and dehumidified if allowed to run long enough.

 

This GE A/C would have an EER of about 5.5 when it was new [ it may have fallen a little with the passing of time ] so it would be about twice as expensive to run as an average newer A/C.

 

If you want to bring it to Martins wash-in we can check it over and see if it is likely working properly.

 

John L.

 

[philr]

Eddie, where was your Airtemp made? Around 1970-71, they switched from making them from the Dayton plant to the Bowling Green plant. I think all those with slider controls should have been made at the Dayton plant. (I'm excluding the Canadian-made Airtemps). What does the rear grille looks like? 

 

[emerson5000cold]

K

That airtemp looks like it is in mint shape! How many btu's is it? The EQK is finally finished! So happy! I can't wait for a 52 philco, airtemp and a EQK to show up for a restoration.

 

[newvista58]

THANKS JOHN....

I will bring it to Martins Wash In.

I tried using it in the bedroom at night,
so there was no Sunload. Plus I keep the room
dark during the day, as well. I could not get
it to cool enough to where it was comfortable,
even after running it all night for several
nights.

I know some of these take a while
to get into good running after sitting for
years. Last year was my first season with
it. I would really love to get it working
correctly. I love the Old style, and prefer
them because they go with all the vintage
furnishings.

Looking forward to the Wash In. See ya there.

 

[toploader55]

Ken...

That is a HO7-91... 6,500 BTU. That is the same chassis that was used for the 8,000 as well.

Phil...

I have no idea which plant it was made. In this pic file, there is a shot of the outside grill.

Also is pic of the Window Mounting Bracket which I still think to date is the most perfect mounting system. No need for brackets screwed into the house below the sill.

This Mounting Bracket was used on the Imperial and Custom series.

They supported from the 6,500 units though the 18,000 units.

The Tempette which was the 5,000 thru 8,000 window series were the inexpensive line.

Custom was a better series and also offered Heat Pump models.

Imperial was the "Grand Dame" of the line.

The Titan series ran 18,500 thru 33,000 BTU. The Titan could bring a room down to 58 degrees and that's with some wiggle room to get colder too.

 

[toploader55]

Here is the Brochure from 1971...

I just realized,

The Tempette series was discontinued around 1970.

The Sleeper series replaced the Tempette. It was a sturdier unit and a tad more quiet.

 

[philr]

I think mine (the smaller Imperial 6500 BTU) was made in 1971. it has the newer grille at the back with 4 sections and the blue Pentastar logo. 

 



 



 

 

 

 

 

[toploader55]

That is the same unit my Dad had in his bedroom.

So, I would say it's a 1972 1973.

Couldn't believe he left that in the house when he sold it and moved. It was brand new and only used one summer.

I had moved out and he built a new house with no A/C. We had 5 window units he left behind. 2 Fedders Weather Wheels 8,000 and 13,000, a 15,000 GE Super Thrust, His Chrysler Airtemp 6,500, and a 5,000 Westinghouse "Mobile Aire.

When all those units were running, it was like Antarctica in there.

Oh, Geez I almost forgot...a 8,000 Whirlpool in the Kitchen. It was a mid 60s model.

On a hot summer day or night, I used to walk around the house listening to the hum of the compressors and the sloshing of the condensate water splashing around.

They also had a distinctive odor like metal, heat and water.

Just like Bakelite, Rubber, Hot Water and Clorox in a Solid Tub Washer. Right ?

Gosh, things were made so well back then and really worked too. I miss those days.

Wasting Water, Electricity, and Increasing that Carbon Footprint too. Who the hell thought that one up... Carbon Footprint ?

 

[cfz2882]

weird .60s small AC

once,at the salvation army,found a small(~5000 BTU) AC made with a section through the middle that was ~1-1.5" thick seperating the indoor and outdoor sections,so a window could be closed down through the middle.unit appeared to be early-mid 1960s vintage-anyone know what this was?-Was in my z28 that day,so when home and got my pickup to fetch the AC-it was gone when I got back-didn't think anyone else would want the old paint-spattered thing...

 

[philr]

These were made by Heat Controller but sold under many brands including their own "Comfort Aire".

Here are a few versions sold under the Frigidaire brand in Canada (pics#1 to 5). Chrysler Airtemp also sold these and so did Hotpoint, Norge and other brands too. 

http://air-conditioner-man.tumblr.com/search/heat+controller

 

[emerson5000cold]

Phil...

If you don't all ready realize it's KB from flicker. You always got the info!! Which is always a huge help. Here's another pic of the EQK, and a unit that I plan to get hopefully before it gets scrapped. Any one know what the front cover looks like?

 

[philr]

Yes Ken, Welcome here BTW! 

 

 

 

[emerson5000cold]

Breaks my heart.

So sad to see these units all tour up . I plan on pulling the one even tho the evap coil is ripped out of it.

 

[delaneymeegan]

My only experience with ACs

 

 

Oh Dear.  Happens to me all the time.

 

I'm wondering what model Pink had all the problems with. Carrier perhaps?

 

 

Ken- nice retro paneling and carpet.   I miss it.