hoover8pulse
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Yeah that's definitely the newer version.
Washing White Bedding with Ariel - Still stained! :(
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Could those spots be
pretreated with diluted liquid chlorine bleach, then re washed on a normal cycle?
pretreated with diluted liquid chlorine bleach, then re washed on a normal cycle?
richardc1983
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What do you define as a dirty sarks load to warrant using 155ml? I know muddy sportswear or work wear with oil on etc but would gym clothing fit into that category?
I've got a full load of darks with mixed gym wear and daily wear in ready to do a 40c would 102ml be enough? Nothing appears stained or would you add more? I would say it's a full 6kg load.
I've got a full load of darks with mixed gym wear and daily wear in ready to do a 40c would 102ml be enough? Nothing appears stained or would you add more? I would say it's a full 6kg load.
hoover8pulse
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I'd probably add the extra 35ml if its a full 6kg load. Nothing looks dirty but f it's a full load I always add a but more. Usually my loads don't fill up the machine so I don't add the extra amount.
richardc1983
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So 135ml or 190ml?
hoover8pulse
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135ml unless the load was really soiled I'd use.
aquacycle
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Re: Ariel dosing. I've never once needed to use that much powder. The water around Yorkshire is mostly very soft and going over about 90ml always tends to cause excessive suds.
Richard, I know this is old fashioned, but I swear blind by Borax Substitute. Yorkshire Trading Company sell it, as well as some of the cheap shops. Failing that, you can get it online. Follow the instructions on the box. Dose the detergent for low soiling and add 2 tablespoons of the powder to the wash. Wash on a long, medium-hot wash (ie 60 degrees) preferably with a soak option if your washer has one. If not, leave to soak over night in the same stuff (detergent dosed a low, with 2 tbs) and then put in the machine with a fresh dose.
Honestly, it works a treat! Hubby recently got a new tattoo and got ink all over the cream the cover duvet, this shifted it no problem!
Richard, I know this is old fashioned, but I swear blind by Borax Substitute. Yorkshire Trading Company sell it, as well as some of the cheap shops. Failing that, you can get it online. Follow the instructions on the box. Dose the detergent for low soiling and add 2 tablespoons of the powder to the wash. Wash on a long, medium-hot wash (ie 60 degrees) preferably with a soak option if your washer has one. If not, leave to soak over night in the same stuff (detergent dosed a low, with 2 tbs) and then put in the machine with a fresh dose.
Honestly, it works a treat! Hubby recently got a new tattoo and got ink all over the cream the cover duvet, this shifted it no problem!
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richardc1983
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I might get some borax then. What about soda crystals and are we talking of borax for whites or coloureds as a detergent helping booster?
hoover8pulse
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Soda Crystals helps soften water so you need less detergent. They also help remove stains too & prevent lime scale build up in the washing machine.
Borax works the same as Soda Crystals except Borax deodorises the laundry too.
Borax works the same as Soda Crystals except Borax deodorises the laundry too.
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aquacycle
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Borax is better for whites as a booster, but safe to use on most types of washing for ad hoc stain removal.
Soda crystals are brilliant for a day to day wash booster. They soften the water meaning you can use less powder. But I've found they're not so fantastic for heavy stain removal.
See link below for info on Soda Crystals.
Soda crystals are brilliant for a day to day wash booster. They soften the water meaning you can use less powder. But I've found they're not so fantastic for heavy stain removal.
See link below for info on Soda Crystals.
aquacycle
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And info on Borax.
We have white table cloths and napkins that are prone to stains, especially if we've had curry. I've not come across a stain yet that I can't shift with borax substitute in some form or other, be it soaking, pre treating or just adding to the wash.
We have white table cloths and napkins that are prone to stains, especially if we've had curry. I've not come across a stain yet that I can't shift with borax substitute in some form or other, be it soaking, pre treating or just adding to the wash.
richardc1983
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I might have to get some. I've bought pure sodium percarbonate before after recommendation on another topic on here but found it disappointing. Yellow sweat stains still on shirts after washing. Perhaps borax will help?
aquacycle
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Yellow sweat stains still on shirts after washing
I used to get that something shocking, especially on light coloured, slim fit t-shirts (in the days when I was slimmer *sob*, RIP 30" waist!). It stopped happening when I scrapped colour detergent and went back to using bio for everything.
Borax Substitute should definitely help. It releases a natural agent that works in the same way as oxi bleach, so in some ways, it's like a cheaper, more natural version of Vanish.
I've been using it for ages now after I bought a box from the Vintage Washhouse in Skipton and tried it out on a stained tablecloth. I also pre-treat with green Household Soap occaisionally, that works really well too and you can pick up 2 bars for £1 in Home Bargains, although the Borax is far less effort.
I used to get that something shocking, especially on light coloured, slim fit t-shirts (in the days when I was slimmer *sob*, RIP 30" waist!). It stopped happening when I scrapped colour detergent and went back to using bio for everything.
Borax Substitute should definitely help. It releases a natural agent that works in the same way as oxi bleach, so in some ways, it's like a cheaper, more natural version of Vanish.
I've been using it for ages now after I bought a box from the Vintage Washhouse in Skipton and tried it out on a stained tablecloth. I also pre-treat with green Household Soap occaisionally, that works really well too and you can pick up 2 bars for £1 in Home Bargains, although the Borax is far less effort.
zanussi_lover
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Use Liquid detergent
As much as powders are great, I much prefer liquid detergents, as you can pretreat the stain by rubbing some on, and leaving it to soak in before washing and 9 times out of 10 it removes the stain completely.
Liquids penetrate the fabrics surface quicker than a powder, as its already diluted into a liquid.
I'm currently using Persil Bio small and mighty, and I love the stain ball, that you can use to work in some liquid into the stain before washing, I've tried it on quite a few stains and its got them out completely.
I would say pretreat the stain with Persil or Ariel bio Liquid, leave to work in for a few minutes and wash at 40, never on a hot wash as that could set the stain in more.
As much as powders are great, I much prefer liquid detergents, as you can pretreat the stain by rubbing some on, and leaving it to soak in before washing and 9 times out of 10 it removes the stain completely.
Liquids penetrate the fabrics surface quicker than a powder, as its already diluted into a liquid.
I'm currently using Persil Bio small and mighty, and I love the stain ball, that you can use to work in some liquid into the stain before washing, I've tried it on quite a few stains and its got them out completely.
I would say pretreat the stain with Persil or Ariel bio Liquid, leave to work in for a few minutes and wash at 40, never on a hot wash as that could set the stain in more.
aquacycle
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Liquid's don't contain oxygen based bleaching agents. Powders are far more effective at removing stains first time than liquids. Prolonged liquid use also causes whites to turn grey and makes your washing machine more prone to bad smells and mould.
aquacycle
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never on a hot wash as that could set the stain in more
Not an issue in cold fill machines. Detergent works best when it's heated up slowly from cold. 60 degrees is probably optimum temperature, but I've boiled our white table cloths on many occaisions and it's removed dry food stains from tomato sauces, curry, dips, soup etc with ease.
Not an issue in cold fill machines. Detergent works best when it's heated up slowly from cold. 60 degrees is probably optimum temperature, but I've boiled our white table cloths on many occaisions and it's removed dry food stains from tomato sauces, curry, dips, soup etc with ease.
zanussi_lover
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Liquids
My washing machine doesn't smell and I use liquid detergents quite a lot but then again I wash at 30, 40 and 60 degrees in my washing machine with the liquids and my washer doesn't smell mouldy or have any on the door seal as I keep the door ajar between washes.
And rest assured I use Persil Small and Mighty liquid on my whites at 40 degrees and they aren't dingy or grey.
As much as powders contain oxygen based bleaching agents, I prefer the dissolution of liquids in cooler washes, as I find I get powder residue on darks with powder.
Also if Ariel bio powder doesn't remove a stain, which is meant to be the best powder on the market, theres something wrong with the formula.
Try Persil
My washing machine doesn't smell and I use liquid detergents quite a lot but then again I wash at 30, 40 and 60 degrees in my washing machine with the liquids and my washer doesn't smell mouldy or have any on the door seal as I keep the door ajar between washes.
And rest assured I use Persil Small and Mighty liquid on my whites at 40 degrees and they aren't dingy or grey.
As much as powders contain oxygen based bleaching agents, I prefer the dissolution of liquids in cooler washes, as I find I get powder residue on darks with powder.
Also if Ariel bio powder doesn't remove a stain, which is meant to be the best powder on the market, theres something wrong with the formula.
Try Persil
aquacycle
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which is meant to be the best powder on the market
Says who? I haven't used Ariel in yonks.
Washing whites with liquids just doesn't work. Yes, they're clean, but they lose their colour and without oxygen based bleaching agents, towels, for example, retain a lot of the grease and oil that comes from skin. Speaking from experience, before we lived together, my other half was an exclusive liquid user and ALL his white towels had gone grey. They were the first thing to go, replaced with lovely new white towels and a box of Persil Bio.
I also wouldn't ever wash my whites on 40 degrees - they need a hotter wash. Being perfectly honest, I do think that whites on 40 with liquid is pretty manky.
I've also found powder to dissolve a lot better than liquid, which is more dense than water and tends to gloop up in the machine and leave more residue around the tub. If powders are leaving residue, you're either using the wrong cycles or your machine isn't rinsing properly.
Says who? I haven't used Ariel in yonks.
Washing whites with liquids just doesn't work. Yes, they're clean, but they lose their colour and without oxygen based bleaching agents, towels, for example, retain a lot of the grease and oil that comes from skin. Speaking from experience, before we lived together, my other half was an exclusive liquid user and ALL his white towels had gone grey. They were the first thing to go, replaced with lovely new white towels and a box of Persil Bio.
I also wouldn't ever wash my whites on 40 degrees - they need a hotter wash. Being perfectly honest, I do think that whites on 40 with liquid is pretty manky.
I've also found powder to dissolve a lot better than liquid, which is more dense than water and tends to gloop up in the machine and leave more residue around the tub. If powders are leaving residue, you're either using the wrong cycles or your machine isn't rinsing properly.
zanussi_lover
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Liquid detergent
Well for me it works for me, my whites are sparkling.. so its personal preference.
Everyone has their own way of doing laundry, my washing machine doesn't smell mouldy, I keep the door ajar, and I don't exclusively wash everything at 30 with liquids, I do wash at 40 and 60 degrees.
I still wash towels and sheets at 60 degrees to kill bacteria, dust mites and germs and run my washer on a 90 degree wash with some white vinegar to clean out the machine.
Why is washing whites at 40 disgusting? they are just clothes, its not as if I wash my whites with tea towels and towels together with dirty dishcloths and wash them in cold water.
40 degrees is more than sufficient to wash normally soiled white and coloured fabrics, and will effectively remove soil, and hanging white laundry in the sun will naturally whiten them.
You only need to wash white clothes at 60 if they are caked in crap, but even so if you pre soak clothing before hand in cold water before washing, which is effective.
Well for me it works for me, my whites are sparkling.. so its personal preference.
Everyone has their own way of doing laundry, my washing machine doesn't smell mouldy, I keep the door ajar, and I don't exclusively wash everything at 30 with liquids, I do wash at 40 and 60 degrees.
I still wash towels and sheets at 60 degrees to kill bacteria, dust mites and germs and run my washer on a 90 degree wash with some white vinegar to clean out the machine.
Why is washing whites at 40 disgusting? they are just clothes, its not as if I wash my whites with tea towels and towels together with dirty dishcloths and wash them in cold water.
40 degrees is more than sufficient to wash normally soiled white and coloured fabrics, and will effectively remove soil, and hanging white laundry in the sun will naturally whiten them.
You only need to wash white clothes at 60 if they are caked in crap, but even so if you pre soak clothing before hand in cold water before washing, which is effective.
aquacycle
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Why is washing whites at 40 disgusting?
I didn't say it was disgusting, I said it was manky. Manky isn't as gross as disgusting is
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White clothes show up things like sweat marks and tide marks around cuffs and collars more so than dark clothes - they tend to stain easier. The hotter water also has a bleaching effect, so whilst the detergent will still clean at 40, overtime it will cause whites to discolour and look a bit manky. Especially as you're using liquid, you really need to hotter water to keep whites looking their best. It's quite obvious that a detergent with oxi bleach in it is going to give better results on white items.
There's a reason why the "whites" cycle on a washer is traditionally a boil wash.
I didn't say it was disgusting, I said it was manky. Manky isn't as gross as disgusting is
. White clothes show up things like sweat marks and tide marks around cuffs and collars more so than dark clothes - they tend to stain easier. The hotter water also has a bleaching effect, so whilst the detergent will still clean at 40, overtime it will cause whites to discolour and look a bit manky. Especially as you're using liquid, you really need to hotter water to keep whites looking their best. It's quite obvious that a detergent with oxi bleach in it is going to give better results on white items.
There's a reason why the "whites" cycle on a washer is traditionally a boil wash.
