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I wonder how they did the program "live" in 1950 when California had no connection to the national (NYC-Chicago) coaxial network? The biweekly schedule would have permitted enough time to distribute film or kinescope copies. The article doesn't specifically mention the method (direct film vs. kinescope) used to record the live performances, but most if not all live shows of that era were recorded on kinescope. Motion picture cameras could have been used to record the action during a "live" broadcast.

Desilu of course recorded before a live audience, but the final product was edited prior to distribution, and there was three to four weeks lag time between filming and broadcast. In the case of the season two episodes following the birth of Little Ricky, the lag was longer because most of those episodes were filmed BEFORE Lucille Ball began to "show", and once she began to "show", then they filmed the episodes dealing with her pregnancy.

The Desilu decision to film rather than broadcast live was an attempt to remain in California. They did not want to move to New York, and the promise of theater quality filmed episodes was the only way to avoid doing the show live from New York. By 1952, a coast to coast coaxial cable link was built, but the connection did not exist in 1951 when I Love Lucy debuted. Desilu retained ownership rights of the film, but even Desi Arnaz underestimated the value of the reruns, as conventional thinking at the time was that no one would want to view old episodes that people had already seen.
 
Lucy's first choice to play Fred and Ethel

Lucy's first choice to play Ethel was Bea Benederet, but she was under contract to do the Burns and Allen show. Neither Desi nor Lucy had even heard of Vivian Vance, but director Marc Daniels had worked with her and suggested Vance for the role. She was appearing in a play in San Diego at La Jolla Playhouse, and Daniels and Arnaz drove down to watch the play. They were convinced they had found their Ethel Mertz, and offered her the role backstage after the show.

Lucy's first choice for Fred Mertz was Gale Gordon. He was under exclusive contract to CBS Radio to do the Our Miss Brooks radio show (Miss Brooks did not move to tv until 1952), and thus was unavailable. William Frawley heard that Desilu was looking for a Fred Mertz and called the Arnazes asking for the part. Desi knew about Frawley's drinking problems before offering him the job, but but bluntly warned him that he had to get the problem under control if he wanted the part. If he missed any rehearsals or was late to the set, he would be replaced.

The photo below depicts the cast during the Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour era, 1957-60. In addition to Little Ricky being much older and having lines to speak, another distinctive difference is that Vivian Vance received better costumes, was allowed to look more glamorous, and no longer had to remain twenty pounds overweight so as to appear to be much older than Lucy. In real life, Vance was a year or two younger than Ball. Vance carefully negotiated these points when she signed on for Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour, after six seasons of I Love Lucy.

Most if not all of the Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour episodes involved celebrity guest stars. The first episode, "The Star Next Door", was written for Bette Davis. Davis had an accident (equestrian accident, if I am not mistaken) shortly before filming and could not participate. Tallulah Bankhead was recruited to take Davis' place. See link below to watch the episode



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Guys:

Pat and Passatdoc:

Okayokayokay. You Read It In A Book, so the observations of someone who knows film and has actually seen the source material are certainly worthless.

Jeez Louise. If you only knew how much bad info based on bad research there is out there.
 
Burns @ Allen

Their very first show is on dvd,George walks the audiance through the procedure of the filming showing the sets and their front door and the neighbors front.He jokes about since he thinks its rather cheap also.They go through the rooms with camera filming at a distance so there is no doubt they are just sets.The 1955&6 season they get better furniture and it looks more like a real home,and he gets his den above the garage and his TV he can watch everything Gracie is doing.Also in the beginning lots of stars were also doing their radio show during that week and they were totally different shows.Radio was easier not much to learn,but TV a whole different venue,they had to learn the dialouge.
 
Reruns and Payment

Many short changed the value of reruns for many "old" television shows.

Saw an interview years ago with the actress who gave the voice to "Wilma" of the Flintstones. She stated the actors were given the choice of a flat fee for their services, or a smaller upfront fee and a piece of the rerun action. Well no one thought anyone would watch "old" cartoon reruns, so they went with the former. If they had only known the "Flintstones" would have morphed into what it became, not to mention still on the air...

Warner Brothers sold off it's film archives and more importantly the plates, films and the lot for it's "Looney Toons" cartoons, mainly because it needed money, but did not forsee the huge market afterschool and Saturday morning televison would have. Those old films lived on providing late night, PBS and other showings, until cable came along, and things began being snapped up and only shown by TNT, TBS, and what other owner run "station" had the rights.

Today of course we have no such problems, actors, directors and anyone else having to do with any sort of film or television program wants into the pot of future revenues from any rebroadcast.

Syndication is what most television programs are going for today. Once there are enough episodes, even if the show isn't that great, it almost promises steady returns for all involved.

However syndication can also kill the goose that lays the Golden Egg. Too many reruns of old episodes while the new ones are still on, tends to turn people off. "Will and Grace" started to loose rating share once repeat episodes where shown sometimes twice a day every day in the same market as new episodes aired only once a week.
 
I found a little Lucy/Paramont triva just the other day:
It seems that Lucy's Daughter Lucy Arnez was considered for the Rizo character in "Greese". They wanted her to screen test. The senior Lucy called the director and told him "I used to own this damn studio, and my daughter doesn't have to test to get a part."
The part went to Stockard Channing and the rest became history.
 
Carol Burnett

I wonder why the Carol Burnett shows are not on dvds.Like season 1 etc.Seems like they would be a goldmine.I think they would be snatched up quickly.Anyone know?
 
Carol Burnett

I understand it has to do with all the royalties and permission from all the guests. You will notice that even when they have the best of showes, they are usually from the stock characters and not the guests.
 
Celebrities then and now...

Has anyone noticed that all those classic shows had "special guest stars" and shows like "Cavalcade of Stars" that showed them in a favorable light, singing and dancing, and people wanted to see that? Now the time we see celebrities is shows like "Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew" Now we just get to see them try to get off the drugs.
 
Sandy....

First off let me say I am not being sarcastic with whats written below. You say you know film and saw the source msterial....ok fine then can you describe this source material and what it says? Can you tell us where we can go to see it ourselves? Can you also tell me why the head producer of I Love Lucy,Jess Openheimer and everyone else involved with I Love Lucy would lie, including Lucy, Desi, the original writers Madilyn Pugh-Davis, and Bob Carrol Jr. and other key Desilu people who were there? If you have proof that they did fine. I want to know more about the truth as I hate not having the correct informartion about things in history that are as interesting to me as this......I am not saying you are lying but instead of getting in a huff, give us as much info about this as you can and stop attacking us becasue we believe what we have read and interviews with the people who were part of it that we have heard. I believe what they say because they were all there were you? If you do have the proof that they all lied please share it because the real truth deserves to be known and I would personally be thankful to you if you were the one to share it. Please share it with us all. Passatdoc, actually that picture could have been taken in during the last season of I Love Lucy because Keith Tibadeaux aka Richard Keith came onboard as Little Ricky during the last season. That I do know for a fact. As for B&A being done live in 1950 and how was it seen in New York with at the coaxial cable......that was what they made kinnies for, they made them in Hollywood and then shipped the Kinnies to the east for broadcast. Milton Biow head of the Biow agency did not want to do that for I Love Lucy and expected the Arnazes and everyone else involved to move to New York. He told Jess Openheimer he was not buying a show where 15% of the audience saw a good picture and 85% saw it through cheese cloth. The problem with that was no one involved with the show wanted to move to New york so that is when they came up with the idea of doing it on film. According to Jess Openheimer orignally Lucy wanted to do the show live every other week like B&A so she could still do movies but lucky for us it turned out not to be the way it happened. PAT COFFEY
 
Whirlaway

Can you give me proof that the episode of the B&A show was the very first episode ever shot in 1950. Maybe those kinnies were not destroyed by age after all maybe they were lost like some of the orignal episodes of the Honeymooners or the auditon tape (what we now know as a pilot) of I Love Lucy. That could be a distinct possibility. I am very much willing to keep an open mind and if I can see proof that was I was believing was wrong I will be more than glad to admit it and accept it. PAT COFFEY
 
Dear Pat:

I'm not being sarcastic either, but this really has been a rough thread. I reported on something I saw, something that falls within my area of professional expertise, and I was answered with citations from books. As a writer and editor, I'd like to offer a couple of observations about books and articles:

People who write books have to research them. Research often depends on interviews. When people are interviewed, they are not under oath, and trust me, they sometimes say things that are not true. Here is one example: Some years ago, I was asked to write a magazine article about the house seen at the end of North by Northwest - the one at the top of Mount Rushmore. So, I began researching. The first place I looked was at some books on Hitchcock. They all said the same thing - that Hitchcock had had a Frank Lloyd Wright house copied for his movie. Now, when a bunch of books all say the same thing, there's usually one source for it, one that all the books are taking their information from. Sure enough, there was such a book. It was a book of interviews Hitchcock did with French director Francois Truffaut back in 1967. In that book, Hitchcock says - flat out, no equivocation - that he copied a Frank Lloyd Wright house.

Now, I frequently write about Wright, and know a pretty fair amount about his work, and I was fairly sure that the house seen in the movie wasn't a copy of any Wright house. But that was a supposition on my part, so I researched, and went over the info available for every single Frank Lloyd Wright house ever built. Not finding any match, I called a friend of mine who is very, very expert about Wright and has published several scholarly works about Wright's buildings. He confirmed that the house in the movie had nothing to do with any house Frank Lloyd Wright ever designed. It looked quite a bit like one of Wright's houses, but Alfred Hitchcock had not - definitely not - done what he had claimed in an interview that he knew jolly well was going to wind up in print. What Hitchcock himself said about the house was not true. You can read the finished story here: http://www.jetsetmodern.com/modatmovies.htm

Now, all this brings up why an interviewee might say something that wasn't true. I'm an editor and writer, and I interview people pretty often. Most of them are as truthful as they can possibly be, but I've learned to double-check everything I'm told and verify it independently, because people do mis-remember, or they'd like to build up their reputation, or they don't really remember and make something up, or they're trying to throw the interviewer off the track about something they would like to hide. And sometimes they just don't know the whole story. There are lots of reasons.

The events surrounding the founding of Desilu and the beginning of I Love Lucy are nearly sixty years in the past. Much of the writing that has been done is based on information in the first major book on the subject, Bart Andrews' The 'I Love Lucy' Book, which, as you know, was endorsed by Lucille Ball herself. While I believe Andrews did some very fine research (and so has Steven Coyne Sanders), I have never thought that enough research has gone into other shows of the period, to compare and contrast them with Lucy.

When I mentioned the Burns and Allen episodes, I was reporting what I saw in three 1951 eps. They are: Teenage Girl Spends the Weekend (original airdate 4/26/51), Space Patrol Kids Visit (original airdate 8/16/51), and Gracie Gives a Wedding (original airdate 9/13/51). These eps are widely available on DVD from several companies, since they're public domain, the company mine are from is Digiview.

In all three of these episodes, I saw the unmistakable hallmarks of a performance filmed in front of an audience. There is genuine, warm applause when the stars make their first appearance in each ep, and Gracie's hand is so big that she has to make that little hand signal that stars use to quell applause. The laughs sometimes run over the dialogue. The actors sometimes "hold", meaning they pause while the audience is laughing, and continue saying their line only after the laugh has died down (there is absolutely no need to do this if canned laughs are to be inserted). And the laughs for George Burns' stand-up jokes on the sidelines are often pretty feeble, not huge yuks as they'd have been if they were canned. The sets are small like Lucy's, not spacious like My Little Margie's, which was filmed like a movie under soundstage conditions. And most importantly, the Burns and Allen eps are not kinescopes, filmed off a TV screen - they are obviously film as film, intended to be shown on TV. I have any number of kinescoped shows in my personal collection, and these ain't kinescopes.

I have no earthly idea why Desilu people have claimed - or had it claimed in their behalf - that they "invented" three-camera, live-studio-audience filming for sitcoms. What I do know is that I have seen another show that appears to have used the technique prior to Lucy. It is possible that being such busy people (filming a movie or TV show is all-consuming) that the Desilu people didn't know that Burns and Allen had used the same technique right down Romaine Street from them.

You've heard from someone else who has seen the first episode (The Kleebob Card Game, original airdate 10/12/1950) that George Burns actually shows the audience the set and how the filming was going to work. What this means to me is that more research into how Desilu came to be known as the originator of something, when there is evidence to the contrary, is needed.

I am not trying to say that I know everything there is to know about Desilu, or I Love Lucy, but I do know film and I do know research, and there is obviously more research needed into this issue.
 
Today, they are getting away from 3 cameras...

Do you think they will get away from 3 cameras as a cost cutting move?

Last year "Guiding Light" announced that they would get a "new look". One article said that the way it and other soap operas were filmed,it had not changed "Since the days of "I Love Lucy", and that on 02/29/08, that would all change. For about 2 months, that date was in the closing credits.

For the "new look" camera operators would be using hand held digital cameras. Instead of having sets like Lucy did, scenes would be shot in actual offices. For outdoor scenes, a town in NJ across the way from Manhattan would stand in for Springfield. Actors could be more "spontaneous' in their performance.

2/29 came along and I think the effect is terrible! In some indoor scenes there are dark shadows. The cameraman is usually too close to the actors so you see too much of their mouth. On outdoor scenes, faces are often washed out. If two actors are walking and talking, the camera follows them and is sometimes herky-jerky. See why I think this might have been a cost-cutting move? Another soap, As the World Turns, is taped this way and the traditional way. I think viewers prefer the traditional scenes.

By the way, when I talk about actors, Guiding Light has "regular" actors. Look at Young and the Restless or Bold and the Beautiful, and I believe that those shows have Shakesperean actors. Everything they say is in a more dramatic way.

Last question: I have seen some black and white scenes of Jackie Kennedy talking about her new furniture and also of JFK's funeral march that were in black and white but had a very "bright" and intense appearance to them, they did not look like film. Could this have been early videotape?

 
Sandy, discrepancies can arise from subjective interpretation, e.g. you're assuming Hitchcock used the word "copied" literally. Maybe he was using it loosely, and what he meant was, he used a house that is a copy of the Wright style of architecture.

Maybe Desilu doesn't consider Burns & Allen to be a sitcom, in which case their claim about being the first sitcom to use a 3-camera setup is correct.

In any case this seems like some truly extreme pedantics. I grew up in L.A. and had "the stars" as personal and family friends, and one thing I know for sure: there's no shortage of tall claims and tall egos in the TV/film industry, and people who take credit for things they shouldn't.
 
Jeff:

You're right about the egos in Hollywood; it's the biggest pitfall for any researcher into movies and TV.

Here's what Hitchcock said about the Vandamm House - direct quote (Hitchcock/Truffaut, revised edition, Simon & Schuster, New York, 1983):

"The house that's used at the end of North by Northwest is the miniature of a house by Frank Lloyd Wright that's shown from a distance. We built part of it for the scene in which Cary Grant circles around it."
 
Sandy....

As I said I wanted proof....and from what you said in your last post that was enough to make me think that there is a lot more to the puzzle than what meets the eye. I in no way meant to question your comptency in this subject at all and I am sorry if it appeared otherwise. Your last post does leave some intriguing questions to be answered though and makes me wonder how much of the truth about early TV history we really know today. I also wonder if B&A could have used less than 3 cameras and edited the shows in such a way to make it look like a 3 camera show. Do you think that could be possible? Or in that opening scene of the first show when George went into the audience could you see 2 other cameras besides the one that was filming? Also why would someone be dumb enough to write that the first 2 seasons of B&A were done on Kinnies when just looking at kinnies and film you can see a major difference and you do not have to be fluent in the knowledge of film to see the difference and also why would that same person say those episodes no longer exist when you and Whirlaway have made it obvious that they do. Also I understand what you were saying about interivews and how everyone remembers things different....but it still astonishes me that a whole group of people would lie about such a thing, that's the one thing I still get hung up on.....it would be one thing if it was one person like the incident you described with Hitchcock but a whole group of people doing that? Or could it be like JeffG said one person's interpertation may be different form someone else' (although saying something no longer exists when it does still exist is not misinterpertation to me....to me that is lying plain and simple)? You know Sandy the Musuem of TV and Radio has been trying to put together the history of the Golden Age of TV and radio but this thread is beginning to make me wonder if they are really coming away with the true story....what do you think?....PAT
P.S. I did not mean to cause any hard feelings I just love this part of history and I am as passionate about it as you obviously are too.
 
Instead of thinking of this thread as rough Sandy....

I prefer to think of it as 2 intelligent adults having a interesting and stimulating (to me) debate about a subject that they are both passionate about and that they both enjoy. This thread has also opened up my eyes to the fact that you are someone that I would love to talk to about the history of TV in general because you are obviously no novice when it comes to the subject. I always love to talk to someone about things I love when I feel I can learn things about them from that person and in the case of TV history I feel you would definately be someone I could learn from.....PAT
 
Pat:

First, let me say that I appreciate the olive branch, which I accept gratefully. I hope we can get together on the phone soon.

As to why someone might say those B&A episodes don't exist when in fact they do, there's a simple explanation. Film gets lost all the time. Movie studios often don't have complete records of what's in their vaults, things get misplaced or even stolen. Sometimes things that are being stored for an independent company (like the one that made B&A) are moved or even dumped because storage fees aren't paid (this can happen when the owners of a TV show or independent movie die and no one takes care of their business affairs properly). So, it's possible that when that writer was looking for the B&As, they were nowhere to be found. "Lost" movies and shows turn up all the time; only a couple-three years ago, a Gloria Swanson/Rudolph Valentino silent that had been lost for decades miraculously turned up, in a print found in the Netherlands. The B&As I have are obviously syndication prints, not nearly as good quality as when originally shown (remember the awful syndication prints of Lucy seen in the '60s and '70s?). They could have turned up in a private collection, or in a TV station that was moving, or whatever. And it's possible that their original camera negatives (or at least dupe negatives) are still in some vault somewhere, uncatalogued. Nobody worried too much about Lucy's negatives for a long, long time, although they were decently well-stored.

I honestly don't think the B&As could have been done with only two cameras. Here's why: Three-camera filming is done for a very simple reason - it allows you to take a master shot (a shot that shows the entire scene and all the actors in it) with one camera, while the other two are used to take closer shots of two actors exchanging their lines (or sometimes, a smaller group of actors, say a couple). This allows the show's filming to proceed very quickly, so that the studio audience does not get bored and cranky waiting while technicians change camera setups. One camera films the entire Ricardo living room, one films Lucy talking to Ethel, and the other films Ethel talking to Lucy, for example. Then film from all three cameras is edited together to create the final scene. The B&As appear to be just the same, with one camera for the master shot and one for each major actor. If it was done with only two cameras, there would have had to have been a lot of waiting time while they moved a camera from one actor's position to another actor's position, and that would have taxed the patience of the studio audience. It would also have been more expensive; the expense of the third camera and its operator would have been less than the expense of the extra camera setups.

Last, I have not meant to imply that anyone has lied about the use of three-camera technique at Desilu. It is entirely possible that someone told an interviewer that Desi invented it in the honest belief that it was true. Since so much Lucy info goes back to Bart Andrews' book, it's possible that other writers have just kept repeating what Andrews said, without questioning it.

Anyway, it's all very interesting, and I hope I can come up with more info on the subject. I look forward to talking with you soon.
 
The three camera

I dont think it was the fact of three cameras,I believe it was the man in charge of them on the Lucy set.Burns and Allen could or probably did use 3 cameras.Somewhere it is written that the East coast received film flown in from the west coast coast a day ahead of air time not kinnies.If you look at e-bay,there are usually several Tv prints for sale from that era,they are not kinnies.Bobby
 

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