Wet Clothes

[launderess]

250 rpm is extraction/spin

No H-axis washer tumbles at 250 or even 100 rpms; wash would cling to sides of drum and never be "lifted and dropped" which is what does cleaning.

Depending upon cycle, water levels and other factors most washers tumble at specific rhythms.

 

[Chetlaham]

Figured as much. Guess there is no balance between cleaning and moisture removal. Not without two speeds.

 

[thomasortega]

"Would a washer that tumbled at 250 rpm be able to clean clothes?"

Chetlaham, Pleas ehelp me understanding what kind of frankenstein you're trying to make.

250rpm wash, no spin, tumble dry.

Will it also release fabric softener on wash and detergent on final rinse "just to be different"?

I'm really not understanding your concept...

 

[combo52]

Hi Thomas, It is not even worth thinking about, Chelsea is off her meds again.

 

John 

 

[thomasortega]

John.

Not always! As a designer, the very first thing I learned in college was thinking out of the box.

Many inventions that are extremely popular today came from people "off their meds".

What she's doing may sound stupid sometimes and actually obsolete because some of the concepts were tried or even used before and abandoned because they didn't work, however, she's thinking out of the box and I'm liking that. It's like a brainstorm, among several ideas that sound stupid a brilliant idea may come up. She may not have the knowledge you have (By the way the very best repairman I've ever met and You know I look forward for the day you can come here to tune up my whole collection) or the knowledge I have (decades designing appliances) but she's curious, curiosity is good. We both wouldn't have reached the excellence levels we have if we weren't curious.

 

[sudsmaster]

Easy solution:

Get a damn ringer.

 

[Chetlaham]

I see you're triggered again John. Which customer did you upset this time around? I'd take your very own advice of not taking it out on other people. In addition to letting Jason run the business, negative reviews regarding behavior aren't coming from him.

"Again this is beyond our control. Please do not take it out on our staff!"

http://www.alcoappliance.net/

@thomasortega: Don't listen to John, or anything he says about me. Its all made up. I'm simply another person that he wants to ride off this site.

I'm thinking of a combo machine. In so far I'm abandoning the 250 rpm idea. It won't wash well enough in addition to pushing water up into vents made for drying.

 

[Chetlaham]

250 RPM

Comes from having a single 10 pole motor which in theory would allow both washing and spinning at a lower cost, in addition to perhaps allowing the machine to get away without having a suspension.

The 250 rpm spin would prevent the clothes from going into dry while still dripping wet.

 

[thomasortega]

"...in addition to perhaps allowing the machine to get away without having a suspension."

No way at all.... Using the Niagara as an example.... even tumbling with no water would make the washer start dancing like Paula Abdul.

The water weight helps keep the washer in place during wash... and... sometimes it moves sideways depending on the load and how the load "fell" in one specific revolution.

 

[Chetlaham]

Right, but I'm thinking a larger full size machine. My understanding is the old combos did not have a suspension and actually spun at 250 RPM without dancing then went into dry.

 

[mrboilwash]

Old horizontal axis washers without suspension either had very heavy concrete blocks in them to keep them on the floor at 250 RPM or if not they had to be bolted down.
The few that didn`t require bolting down sounded like a jackhammer during spin.

 

[foraloysius]

Overhere in Europe it wouldn't make any sense to save money in that way. You can have a decent Beko frontloader with a heating element and 1000rpm for 300 euros ($355.). It's mass production that can make a washer cheap, not skimping on performance.

 

[Chetlaham]

Right, but can that Beko also dry?

 

[mrboilwash]

What`s the point of a washer-dryer that spins at 250 RPM in the blue Deluxe Forum?

There`s an utterly unpleasant phenomenon called global warming and because of this most of the civilized world has put up energy restriction which would make it impossible to build and sell such a washer anyways.

 

[foraloysius]

No, that Beko can't dry, but for 500 euros you can have one that dries and spins at 1400rpm.

 

[combo52]

250 RPM spin Combination with no suspension

Guys she is seriously off her meds and just trying to get attention, its not even worth responding to.

 

John

 

[Chetlaham]

The bullying on this forum seriously needs to be dealt with. Its not fair that members have no option other than leaving. Which is the goal of said perpetrator.

Anyway, no doubts about the Beko. However I do prefer EM controls.

Is the Beko condensing or vent type?

 

[Chetlaham]

Energy Restriction

I'll give you that. However if you really wanted to combat global warming you have to go nuclear. If nuclear was the bulk (greater than 90%) of all power generation, than shaded pole motors, low spin speeds, heated rinses, ect would not matter. In fact this was the dream of General Electric.

 

[combo52]

250 RPM spin Combination with no suspension ??

It not worth commenting on, she is just an anonymous troll vying for attention dreaming up silly ideas that have no possibility of ever being built, the lack of consideration of energy consumption in all your ideas shows how unlikely any of these ideas make any sense let alone will ever be built by anyone.

 

John 

 

[mrboilwash]

I couldn`t tell if a 250 RPM combo without suspension ever existed anywhere, but there has indeed been a German "Cordes" horizontal axis TL which spun a tad below 300 RPM and had no suspension at all.
It was very heavy and made a hell of a noise knocking on the floor when it spun. Didn`t dance much though. IIRC it started to spin with the tub still half full with rinse water, thus accelerating slowly and gradually which helped a bit distributing clothes evenly.

I think most of Chetlaham`s ideas like the "Schalterbackofen" or a low spin washer without suspension already existed at some time in the past somewhere on the planet.
They belong into the pink forum, because they`re things of the past and have zero chance to get a revival. For good reasons.

Chetlaham, do you think uranium is an unlimited resource?
Can you tell just one single nation on the planet that has found a final solution where to store the nuclear waste safely forever?[this post was last edited: 10/23/2020-15:33]