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Welcome Hugh !

Hugh,
I am glad you have decided to join this group ! I can't say that all my experiences within this group have been positive. I have tried several times to contact certain people about finding certain machines--and the replies were not always nice.
I love all the old machines and have tried very hard to make friends within this group-much to my disappointment ! I hope you have better luck than me.

Derrek
 
Hi Derrek,
Thanks for the welcome, I am sorry to hear your experiences have not been positive but I must say I am surprised as I have received a warm welcome from Applianceville, all the people here seem to be warm and friendly folks.
You are most welcome to e-mail me and I will be pleased to help you in any way I can however coming from the UK my knowledge of US machines is somewhat limited.
I do own a US Whirlpool Top Loader and I find it to be a superb washing machine.
Best Regards.
Hugh
 
Re: Hi! Derrek:

Hi! Darrek, don't feel too hurt and pleaz try to just know that there are a lot more good people in this Club, than the ones that have to input their opinions. They put them in a terrible manored way, rather than using their Brains first {instead of sitting them} before they make their comments.

{eg} Checking back at your Thread Posting, looking for some particular Machines and the Thread Posting Replies that you got from not only just one person, but several.

I've had that happened to me on several occasions and I fortunately had enough of the nicer people reply, not only on my Thread Postings, by "via" my E-Mail to let me know it had happened to them as well one time or another.

Pleaz try to not let them get to you and know that there are enough people out here in the Club who will try to do their best to help you and others, as best as they are able.

Hugh, excuse me for taking your space, but I just had to make myself heard, considering my feelings being hurt for Derrek as with thinging back about my past hurts as well.

Peace to You Both and Happy Laundry Days and Caring Thoughts,
Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
 
Re:

Hi! Hugh, I'm curious to know, although I think I've got my answer while writing to you. With your having a "USA" made Whirlpool Washer, did you have to use a special Electrical Adaptor in order to plug it into your Current Ratings, in order to operate it? I know unless I'm wrong that the UK has 50-Cycle, where we have here in the USA 60-Cycle Electricity. Don't you normally also have 220-Volt Electricity for almost everything that you use over there, including Small Kitchen Appliances? I have a Friend here who is from the UK and he had to get Adaptor's for his UK items that he Shipped Overseas to here in the USA when he relocated here. His Table Lamps only Light Dim, due to the difference between here and there, but at least they work.

Peace and Happy Whirlpool Washing, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
 
Hi Steve,
Actually my Whirlpool is factory made (Whirlpool Corp. Benton Harbour, Michigan. USA) with 230 Volts 50Hz components the so no step down transformer is required. The main drive motor is a two speed unit rated at 230 Volts 50Hz 600W it has no heater and apart from the voltage the washer is identical to US sold models. It is by far my favourite machine; my UK Front Loaders are like toys compared to the Whirlpool Top Loader the only exception being my Dyson Contra Rotator which is fitted with cast iron balance weights and is heavier than the Whirlpool.
All the best.
Hugh
 
Derrick, if I remember correctly, you are looking for a Sunny Yellow WCI60 Frigidaire washer and matching Filtrator dryer preferably in working condition. I would love to have a 1958 or 1965 verson of the said pair. I don't have any mechanical ability whatsoever. So, it's a mute point for me to find something and it needs restoration. The restoration process takes a tremendous amount of time, sweat, blood, energy, and funds. When the process is through, it becomes the restorers baby and I doubt any amount of money to purchase the pair would be sufficient (especially a Frigidaire pair of this vintage). Sure I would love to have a resored pair and it's a fantasy of mine, but I fully understand someone's positoin after restoring--although it still stings and smarts. Having the dream of several vintage machines will be that for me. And it's like many others here. So, the rest of us have to enjoy other's collections and appreciate all they've done. Gregg has spent well over 6 months tweaking, fine-tuning, and everthing else to prepare his bountiful colleciton of machines for the upcoming convention. It is a labor of love, but I know it's exhausting. Adn believe me, I would love a General Motors Frigidaier. But I'd want it for my daily production washer & dryer LOL. I hope I've not offended you. As someone said in response, there is a loooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnngggg line of us ahead of you that want the same or similar pairs of Frigidaires.
 
Bob, don't feel too overwhelmed...while it's a long, hard search, the reward definitely pays off!! One of these days there will be a fully operational Frigidaire that someone will pass along to you!

I don't have anything vintage enough yet! :(
 
Re: Whirlpool Washer Info:

Hi! Hugh, thank you for clarifying the Electricity inquiry I asked you about, on your Whirlpool Washer. To my knowledge {and I'm not real updated more currently} I do know that in the past that Maytag had 50-Hz Washers and I believe no doubt Dryers available, at that time for Canadian operations. I'm sure that other Manufactures also made/make them as well, but I'm only familiar with the Maytags. I'm not aware about more updated time, at least of such still being available, from here to there {Overseas and Canada} unless they are Manufactured in that particular area. I knew about the Maytags by reading the Literature that I've still got listing the different Electrical Capacity available and stating at that time that it was for Canadian operation. "BTW" what Brand and Model Dryer do you have, is it a Match to your Washer?

Peace and Happy Whirlpool Washing, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
 
Hi Steve,
I had considered a Maytag but no electrical suppliers in my area carried the Maytag brand, I also had problems sourcing the Whirlpool but one phone call to Whirlpool UK solved my problems as they kindly arranged for their service company to order and deliver the washer to me. They are readily available in most electrical stores now but not six years ago when I bought my washer.
I take it from your comments that Canada uses a different voltage from the USA, this is interesting so what voltage is used in Canada?
Regarding my Drier; unfortunately it is a UK model a Hotpoint Ultima Condenser Drier, although I would really love the matching Whirlpool Drier but I was put off the Whirlpool by its electrical requirements. In the UK we have 220-240 Volts 50Hz 13 Amp standard wall outlets which can supply appliances up to 3000 Watts however the Whirlpool USA 22Lb drier requires 4500 Watts so this meant I would have needed to install a 30 Amp circuit to supply it with power so alas I had to settle for the standard UK Drier.

All the best.
Hugh
 
Re: Canadian Electricity:

Hi! Hugh, as far as I know from the Maytag Literature of the past years, I was referring about, the Canadian Electricity was 50-Hz Cycle and they were 208/240-Volts for both Washer and Dryer, according to my Literature of Mid-1980's.

Do you possibly have a way to Post a Pix of your Washer and Dryer? I've seen some {made for overseas} Kenmore Washers, but no Whirlpool Washers or Hotpoint Dryers.

Peace and Happy Whirlpool and Hotpoint Laundry Days, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
 
US/Canada/Mexico

electrical standards are the same, 120/220 volts, 60 Hz.

Some areas of US were 50 Hz as late as 1940's

Some areas still have 208 volts
 
Thanks Steve and Jaune,
So does the USA actually use two voltages within the home; I presume the latter 220 Volts 60Hz is for use in appliances with heaters? In the UK only one voltage is used within a domestic dwelling Single Phase 220-240 Volts 50Hz with all power points being 3 pin 13 Amp capable of supplying appliances up to 3000 Watts. Industry has various voltage options but most commonly this is 3 Phase 415 Volts 50Hz. I find the variations in voltages between different countries very interesting and there is no doubt a safety advantage with a 120 Volts system also 60Hz would allow Induction motors to run faster. The 240 Volts used in the UK can easily kill and let me tell you it can give a very nasty shock, I have had my share of them over the years LOL.
Steve attached is a pic of the Whirlpool I will take a pic of the Hotpiont Drier later.
Regards.

Hugh.

6-20-2005-03-35-39--Spiraclean.jpg
 
power

Hugh, there is a thread on here somewhere where power standards were discussed in detail. I'm not sure if it's still current or in the archives, but the shortened version is:

Most US homes, with the exception of very old ones that haven't beenupgraded, have 120 and 220 volts 60 AC available. 220V (or 208V in some areas) is generally used only for high load appliances such as

electric ranges that plug into a special dedicated 50 amp outlet
full-size electric dryers that plug into a special dedicated 30 amp outlet (compact portable units run on 120V)
room A/C units with a capacity over 12,000 BTU
electric heat of any kind (baseboard, ceiling or floor radiant, electric furnace) except for portable units, which run on 120V up to 1500 watts.
Central A/C or heat pumps
electric water heaters over 5 gallons

Some things (well pumps, swimming pool pump motors) can be wired to run on either voltage, depending on size of motor and voltage availability at point of use.

Manufacturers adhere to a Worst Case Scenario power draw of 15 amps at 120 volts, since that's the standard even very old homes used. Newer homes are wired to 120 Volt 20 amp standard, and some neweer 120volt appliances can utilize this, but they have a different type plug and outlet. Otherwise, everything else runs on 120 volts. For quite a while now we've been getting a lot of appliances that are dual voltage and 50/60Hz, you just move a switch and put an adaptor on the plug to fit where you are at. Some of the newer appliances are even self-sensing (my IBM laptop power supply is like this) and automatically knows which voltage/frequency is in use.
 
208V supplies

208V feeds are usually 3 phase fed from the power company.They are the most common 3 ph use voltages.The advantage with it is you get 208V between phases and 120V from phase to neutral or ground.this makes it easy for balancing 120V loads evenly in a building or premises fed with it.Its common in apartment building(most common user in residentail building)Condo buildings,and most commercial buildings.If a building has a 230 Delta 3 ph feed-you will need a transformer to step the 230 down to 120V. YOU CANNOT GET 120V FROM PHASE TO NEUTRAL-you will get what they call a "bastard voltage"around 160-170V that will instantly damage any 120V appliance connected to it.Have seen it fool some elctricians-they think-"Oh it 208/120V"--but SURPRIZE!!The 220-230V 3Ph is common in older buildings.In some cases they had a system called "red-leg delta" in which the red tagged leg is center tapped for 120V-this is a big disadvantage-It puts all of the 120V loads on one phase!!!Power compnaies hate it-load balancing and power factor goes nuts.and if you have phase load sensitive equipment-anything with a 3Ph rectifier in it-the heavily loaded leg will reduce the efficiency of the recitfier circuit.Years ago saw the effect of the loaded phase while doing SN noise readings on an FM transmitter-the noise meter fluctated to the blinking of the tower light beacon(those ran on 120 V 2 750W bulbs per beacon)When the station converted to 208/120 that problem was eliminated.most of the radio station studio and transmitter buildings I dealt with had 208-120V 3ph.One building had 230V 3Ph delta with wall mounted stepdown transformers for 120V-they had one per phase to balance the load-there were two FM transmitters in the building.Any of the apartment houses I lived in had 208-120V.The building I work in now has a 208V supply too-they just step down the 4160V building feed to 208/120V with a transformer bank.
 
Re: Whirlpool Photo:

Hi! Hugh, thank you for Posting the Photo of your Whirlpool Washer. It is great seeing one that was made for an Overseas {from us} usage. I've mainly seen the same or similar Console where yours is 2-Tone Blue Color, they've been more of a
2-Tone Tan/Beige Color here in the USA. I wonder if the Manufactures do that purposely, so they know which particular Brand/Model goes where... The only other different Color Consoles I've seen on Whirlpool Washers and Dryers are the ones with the Color-Co-Ordinated Water Temp, Water Level and Timer Settings, in Blue, Red and Yellow or Orange, or maybe even all of those. I don't remember for sure without looking at some Literature, what the Colors being used are, but they are the most Colorful Controls that I can remember for quite some time. The only other Washers and Dryers are the either 1960's or 1970's Philco Washers and Dryers, that had the Multi-Colored Lens above the Cycle Push-Buttons.

Whenever you get a chance, I as well as no doubt others would like to see your Hotpoint Dryer as well.

Peace, Happy Whirlpool Washing and Hotpoint Drying, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
 

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