What do people think of the new Persil available in USA?

[centenialguy]

Laundress,

I looked up Persil history, and there is a statue of her in the town where it was founded.

 

[launderess]

Statue of Weisse Dame

Isn't of "Persil" which is named after its key ingredients *PERborate and SILicate*, but of the White Lady.

The White Lady much like the mythical Phoebe Snow of the Lackawanna Rail Road was meant to symbolize purity and cleanliness.

Weisse Dame was the first advertising campaign for Henkel's Persil and still remains one of the most potent and loved symbols for that product in Germany.

http://www.persil.de/de/ueber-persil/persil-history.cky.html

http://www.henkeldiversity.com/2012/12/10/happy-birthday-to-persils-white-lady/

Over the years from her initial launch in 1920's through 1960's the Weisse Dame changed her frock as fashions did as well.

Persil White Lady - Google Search

 

[iheartmaytag]

I have tried several if not all the Persil detergents.  The only one that I was not fond of was the pearls.  I noticed in a few washings my whites had grayed.   As for the smell it does linger, but it's not offensive to me.  

 

The intensive fresh has a very nice scent, and just barely detectable in towels after the dryer.  The PODS seem to have the strongest scent of all, but not objectionable, kind of a manly smell, not flowery or sweet.  

 

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Delaney-

As I said I agree about gas, I wonder if it is more the leak detection smell they put in the gas or if it is the petroleum smell.  In any case I smell it on clothes, as well as I can go into a home with a gas stove and can tell they have gas as there is that smell.  

 

 

 

[centenialguy]

Yes laundress!

My camera is not connected, or I'd show you the billboard animation photo of her in white with an umbrella and a turquoise background on the side of one of my HO scale buildings on my model RR layout.

 

[arbilab]

About the gas dryer smell

With the valve wide open the wash-- especially sheets-- came out smelling burnt. Turning the valve down ~one quarter reduced the problem below the point it was objectionable.

Natgas doesn't really have a smell when burned. Burning also destroys the leak-detect additive. EITHER type of heat can expose laundry to smells from intake air. Working this problem convinced me that the detergent scent agents were being rancidified/oxidized by excess heat.

Most places, gas (heat) is so much cheaper than electric it's preferable to solve the overheat problem than switch. Which should also solve the drum discoloration, though I wasn't dealing with that.

 

[jerrod6]

Revised 2n1 formula?

I bought my second 50+ load bottle of Persil 2n1 liquid today.  When I got home I noticed small modifications to the front label mainly in color.

 

When I flipped it around to the back I noticed something else.  The back label contains the words "low suds, clean rinse formula".  I also took a sniff of the bottle and the first comparisons seemed to be that the new formula had less of the same scent, but on my second sniff I can't tell any difference ---so not sure about that--although I don't have an issue with the original scent.

 

I don't have problems with suds in the original but I am use to dosing small amounts of Persil German formula liquids to prevent them from oversudsing, but perhaps this revised formula will address concerns some have had about oversudsing and rinsing.

 

First pic is front of old and new bottles - new on the right.

Second pic is back of old formula

Third pic of back of revised formula

 

[artcurus]

Currently experimenting with Persil Pro Clean and Gain Fabric softener. So far I really like it, the Persil cleans real well, and does not oversud. However, I will my machine is not HE, and runs hot water directly from the tap, though I usually wash in warm. Don't know if that makes a difference.

I will say that by itself, the Persil scent seems to fade a lot quicker.

I also don't like the pearls.

 

[jerrod6]

The perls

This is the formula that contains a lot of oxygen bleach so if you want to use a detergent to bleach whites the Perls has it.

I use both formulas and they work well for me. I checked the Persil Pro web site and see that the Perls bottle no longer has the spout, however if you want one you can order it.

 

[vacerator]

When a 24

year old is still living at home, and only washes his sheets once per month, I appreciated the Persil scent in "my" laundry, as the Arm and Hammer fragrance free I also use wasn't taking care of the "cheese" odor left behind after the kid does his wash. Last week, he had a rash before he washed them.
I'm lost for any more words or advice for the young man. I tried to help give him some common sense since 2005 when he lost his mom to breast cancer and had to move in.
I don't get it. A 4.0 grade point average in calculus and physics, but when he over flows the toilet, doesn't know which way to turn the water shut off valve.
I mean, the shower also has separate hot and cold valves on the wall.
Oh well, we must have done something right. He graduated from a private technical university, has never been in any trouble, and has a nice steady girl friend who is a soon to be CPA.

 

[petek]

Well it finally arrived in the stores around here a couple of weeks ago (3 or 4 different versions)  so I picked up a bottle of the ProClean 2 in 1. I don't mind the smell, it's fairly light and to be honest I can't say as it cleans any better than the bargain basement on sale $1.99 Ajax or Arm & Hammer stuff I've been using for years. Since it's designed for use in both regular TL's and HE machine (mines a vintage filter flo) the concentration may have something to do with things. Plus my clothes don't get all that dirty.  I sometimes have a problem with pit stains but I pretreat those. 

 

[circlew]

I wasn't overly impressed with it. I used the Persil Pro-Clean MegaPearls, and didn't think it was worth the price. When I used it up, I went back to the Sears Ultra Plus, which cleans nearly as good at a much lower price.

 

[jerrod6]

In my front loader I use about 1 to 2 tablespoons of the Perls when I wash whites and so it lasts about a year and works well for me.

I checked the Pro Perls web site today and see it seems to be reformulated as well. Seems like more and different ingredients.

Last thing I will say.

 

[helicaldrive]

I take back everything negative I said about Persil

Curiosity got the better of me and I bought a bottle of 2 in1 and the Power Pearls, and I tried again.

The first time I tried it again, I had an oversuds in the SQ FL and the load did not get clean, as with any oversuds. Once I figured out the right dose, I started getting fantastic results. My window washing and housecleaning rags are noticeably cleaner after a few washes. It seems easier on colors than Tide, and rinses out way easier. In the FL a dab of 2in1 in the pre wash cup, 1/2 teaspoon Power Pearls in the main wash cup and a scant Tablespoon Clorox chlorine bleach, plus some extra rinses, yields dazzling white tidy whities. (That's with a water softener, BTW -- probably more would be needed in unsoftened water or with really big loads.)

Unlike the first time, I've never again had an unpleasant or overpowering scent with these 2 formulas either. If there's any scent left, it's very subtle and is like the fresh, outdoor line-dried scent reminiscent of childhood -- nothing like the scent of the detergent itself. To me the detergent itself has a kind of cherry scent, on the masculine side compared to the others, and then during washing it smells different, sort of like bananas. It's interesting how it changes. Either that or there's something way wrong with my sniffer. I dunno. A lady in the store opened a bottle and said it smelled like a Christmas tree. I don't smell any pine scent but she might very well be right.

 

[supersuds]

Glad you're getting great results.

For me the attraction of the Power Pearls is that chlorine bleach is not needed at all. Using it probably cancels the utility of the enzymes and the oxygen bleaching system that are the main things you're paying for.

Good points about the scent, which, more than most, seems to be perceived differently by different people.

 

[launderess]

Is there a chair I can tell this to?

Oxygen and chlorine bleach cancel each other out, use one or the other. Again Cheer detergent famous "color-guard" was nothing more than sodium perborate. It was added in small enough amounts not to bleach colors but to counteract the chlorine found in most tap water.

Strange White Gas when Mixing Oxiclean and Clorox Bleach

Can someone tell me what white gas is being put off when I mix oxiclean (powder) and Clorox bleach (liquid) in my washing machine?

www.homeownershub.com

 

[helicaldrive]

Thanks for the tip

I'll follow your advice

 

[iej]

As far as I know, Unilever only owns the rights to the Persil brand in the UK, Republic of Ireland, France and New Zealand

Persil is the premium brand in the three English speaking markets, but in France it's used as the brandname for a range of natural soap based products which I haven't seen in other markets. French Persil is sort of a premium natural-fragrance product based around Savon de Marseilles.

Unilever typically uses Skip and Omo as premium brands and Surf as a second tier. Although in France, Omo is the exact same product as UK/Ireland Surf i.e. second tier and highly fragranced.

I don't really know what they're up to with Surf anymore. It's all about perfume and it has been shifted to a much more premium position (it used to be all about value) but they have kept it as a single-enzyme bio which probably isn't nearly as good at cleaning as its sister products in the Persil range.

Also in the UK and Ireland, Persil non-bio is a totally different formula. The liquids smell a bit like Dove shampoo.

Persil Powder in the UK and Ireland also smells more like Dove soap bars than anything any other fragrance I can think of. They probably share some common Unilever fragrance lab components or something.

The Persil Bio 'small and mighty' liquids have a kind of sweet, clean synthetic smell. It's hard to describe but it's not floral and it's not that clawing either. Quite pleasant but it's very sweet.

 

[passatdoc]

I bought a bottle of PowerPerls online from Walmart.com, shortly after its introduction, but never bothered to try it until I saw this thread. I did a load of colors (mostly pastel shirts and light colored khakis) on Warm in an Electrolux 60 FL, using Normal cycle. I use 1-2 tbsp (15-30 ml) per load and measure using a coffee scoop.

No oversudsing. Scent is there but no worse than Persil perls brought home from Germany. Cleans nicely, as well as German Persil Megaperls. I have virtually no white clothes, save for 2-3 white shirts and the only things i wash with hot water are towels and bed linens. I realize that the US PowerPerl product is likely similar to Universal MegaPerls in German (i.e. intended for whites rather than colored loads) but I have had no problems with fading using the supposedly white US product (but I wash clothing on warm, not hot.

I do find the bottle oddly shaped and not easy to use. I simply empty the bottle into a large Glad plastic food storage container. Lid keeps it airtight, and it stacks neatly without risk of tipping over. I use a coffee scoop to measure, which is not practical with the original bottle design.

 

[DADoES]

 
Scent of the 2in1 liquid is more intense than the perls.  I measure it with a 1 / 2 tablespoon cup from Pepto.  Ran across mention recently of a new liquid scent, Extra Fresh Linen, for the ProClean Power-Liquid (green color label).

 

[launderess]

Strange

Can find this Persil liquid/gel everywhere in NYC now, even Shoprite supermarkets seem to stock it; however no one as the perls aside from K-Sears on Astor Place.