What do people think of the new Persil available in USA?

[nmassman44]

Wishwash, which flavor of Persil did you use? Tide liquids are quite stinky to my nose, and I don't use Arm &Hammer since it really doesn't clean well , in my opinion. I use Persil Original scent and the 2 in 1 Persil and I find the scent quite nice and clothes smell clean. I used to use Tide Powder HE Original and I loved the scent, but P&G went ahead and putz'd around with the scent and it smells nothing like it used to.

 

[askolover]

I love Persil's smell, especially on sheets.

 

[joeypete]

Persil does clean very well I have to say. I am still going through a big bottle I bought a while ago. I agree, it smells great on sheets! Very fresh. Though I think I like the Tide scents a little better....I just bought some regular Tide Pods and I really do like them. haha

 

[mrb627]

Clear Jug

Persil's packaging in the see through bottle with a removable spout so every last drop can be used is genius. While I do like the Tide Turbo liquid, their jugs couldn't be made any worse. Want the last dose out of Tide, gotta take a box cutter to the top of the bottle, just a bad design!

Malcolm

 

[passatdoc]

I have used Persil Color Megaperls, brought home from trips to Germany, for years with superb results. As a test, I recently bought some Persil Power Perls from walmart.com. These are marketed as a "universal" powder (supposedly good for both whites and colors), in part because Americans aren't accustomed to having to buy two sorts of detergent.

My "work clothing" consists of chino trousers in various colors (khaki, olive green, navy blue) and surgical scrub tops, all of which are dark colors: green, wine, navy, etc. Since the fabrics, washing needs, and drying needs are similar, I was my work clothes together, without color sorting. Several weeks ago, I began trying US Persil rather than my German supply. So far, the loads are just as clean. I have one wine-colored top that possibly is fading a bit; I have an identical top that I am keeping in the closet as a "control" to determine in a month or so if the US Persil-washed top indeed is fading.

Nothing faded with German Color Megaperls, but of course the US Power Perl product, while marketed as a one-size-fits-all product, most likely is best for whites and pastels. I wish they'd market an equivalent of Color Megaperls, but Americans are set in their ways and most don't like to stock two kinds of detergent. I hate liquid detergent, I feel powders work best in a FL, and so I don't see the US Persil color liquid as an option for me. Another option is to buy imported Persil Color Megaperls on the internet. Pricey, but I use 15-30 ml (1-2 tbsp) per load, so it lasts a long, long time.

 

[angus]

I am not seeing the powder in any of our stores anymore (Wal-Mart, Shop-Rite, etc... Has it been discontinued?

 

[supersuds]

The powder is in the stores I shop at. Maybe the places you've been to are just out of stock?

 

[passatdoc]

It's available online today:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Persil-Pr...Fresh-Powder-Laundry-Detergent-59-oz/42417855

they often offer free shipping to a store for pickup in the event your local store is out of stock.

 

[launderess]

Cannot find the powdered version by Dial/Henkel

Either in NYC outside of K-Sears on Astor Place.

The liquid/gel yes, that one can find everywhere from Rite Aid to Shoprite, but none of the supermarkets or store 24's seem to have the powder.

 

[sarat]

Is it okay to use bleach with the Persil Pearls or does it contain an oxy like ingredient?

 

[mrboilwash]

The Pearls do contain an oxy like ingredient so some of the bleaching action will be lost to the fact that oxygen bleach and chlorine bleach cancel each other out.

While it`s not the most efficient way to bleach laundry it is still perfectly okay to use chlorine along with an oxy bleach containing washing powder because one of the bleaches (usually chlorine) exceeds the other one. In other words it is very unlikely to get the exact ratio of chlorine to oxy where 100% bleaching action is canceled out.

 

[launderess]

While it may be "ok" to use chlorine with an hydrogen peroxide bleach, why would you? Have found oxygen bleach far superior to chlorine especially when part of an activated system.

While can understand adding say water softener (phosphates) and perhaps oxygen bleach when using a detergent that does not have it included, and or to kick things up a notch when dealing with badly stained wash; cannot comprehend the need to create various witches brews for doing laundry.

We no longer live in the 1800's! If you aren't getting proper results from a particular laundry detergent then either your methods are off and or you need to find something else.

No longer bother adding anything really when using various European detergents (the modern versions, not vintage stuff in my stash), as Persil, Ariel, Le Chat, OMO, and the rest all give excellent results on their own. Especially when used in the Miele (good) or OKO-Lavamat (better).

 

[bajaespuma]

Consumer Reports made a significant distinction between the different types of Persil liquids. I think they liked the "+ pro-lift technology" formula better than all the others. It took some doing in my area to locate that specific one.

 

I've used it but it's VERY fragrant and it over-sudses a lot. I can't imagine what it would do in a boil-wash cycle. I like the fragrance but I don't want to walk around in public smelling like my laundry detergent. I remember when I was in high school I had a couple of friends who smelled like Wisk all day long. I wanted to tell them to tell their mothers to use less but I was still deeply inside the laundry closet and didn't want to out myself.

 

I think the Miele powders are near-perfect detergents. We have a turkish supermarket near us that stocks small bags of the regular and color formulas.

 

[launderess]

American Persil

Yes, the stuff froths quite a bit and has a tenacious scent.

Have found for a full 5kg load in the Miele or Lavamat to use no more than 15ml or less, it varies by load size and soil level. That cap is obviously geared for dosing in large American "HE" or whatever top loading washers. Have both a bottle of the German Persil gel and American version side by side in my laundry area. The cap for the latter is vastly larger than former. Using a full or even half cap of the American version is sure to cause issues with froth and rinsing IMHO.

Scent wise again if the right amount is used things aren't "that" bad. Far more noticeable than Tide liquid, and that is saying something.

 

[vacerator]

Using way too much.

Use less, get less frothing, and a nice mild fresh scent.

 

[mrboilwash]

"I can't imagine what it would do in a boil-wash cycle"

Ken, you`re not the only American here on AW.org who can`t imagine so I decided to take pictures of a boil wash cycle with German Persil today. Can tell you it`s right the opposite of what you`d expect.
While it is quite sudsy when the water heats up from cold to hot the suds collapse once the water gets really hot.

Actually all European detergents behave more or less in this way.
It might be different in extremly soft water conditions, or in cases of severe overdose, and of course American Persil might be different as well.

Picture #1 was taken when the water was warm.

Picture #2 was taken right after the heater had cut off at 89°C (192°F)

 

[henene4]

89C

I found that the range between 50C and about 75C is the actual suds range of most detergents. Beyond that, most suds collapse. However, the interim spins on boil washes have a higher tendency to sudslock conditions as the extracted water is usualy somewhere in that range, even with a cool down.

 

[bajaespuma]

15 ml it will be.

I have to be especially careful because here in Branford, Connecticut, we happen to be blessed with very soft water.

 

IIRC the water in New York City, which gets piped in from 100 miles north of the city out of the beautiful Ashokan reservoir is not only the tastiest water I've ever had, but it is also soft. When we lived near Rhinebeck NY and had well water it was ridiculously hard. Disgusting to drink and very hard on the laundry. I remember that it was close to impossible to get soap to lather in the shower. Water hardness makes a bigger difference I think than any difference between brands of detergent.

 

When my sister lived in Strasbourg, France she told me they had boxes of some special water softener that they had to use for everything, in the washer, in the dishwasher and when cleaning anything like the floor or bathroom fixtures. I guess this is why European dishwashers have built-in salt exchangers.

 

[mrsalvo]

I'll have to agree with bajaespuma, water hardness makes the biggest difference in detergents. Here in S. Central Texas the water is out of an aquifer and is very hard. I add water softner, usually Calgon, to each load. I found Persil to be very good at cleaning but the scent is over-the-top, so I agree with Laundress. Also thought it to fade my darks, and very sudsy. I found that for the price, other brands do as good, or better in not fading colors, think it might be the water hardness factoring in on that.

 

[joeypete]

I was using Persil 2-in-1 for my everyday detergent but while I like the scent, I didn't want it on everything. So now I keep it to use on really dirty or smelly wash loads. It is absolutely fantastic at getting out stains and odors. I just washed a car detail cloth that was black and smelled like gas, grease, brake dust, you name it. Came out completely clean and fresh smelling. It's good stuff for sure. I just prefer the Tide scents for my clothes.