I USED to have a "Shredmore" like what was shown in the video.Traded mine in towards a vintage WP Imperial 90-still use today-and its much better.The loud clacking you hear is the dual action agitator "dogs".with a shallow load as shown the speed should be set to low-or you will get clothes that look like you washed them with your Roto-tiller.Also the higher water levels decrease the "shredding"
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Ohh, Mikey, Shredmore at its "best". Causes nightmares with me just watching it. I think I"m the one who coined the term Shredmore.
ShredKen
Morning Bob...i think you did, it was from you that I did first hear the phrase used...I can see what you guys mean especially as Servis machines here used the slower wider sweep & arc like Speed Queen, so this does seem really fast....but having used Hoover twinnys that wash in 4 mins and whizz your clothes around at 600rpm they do seem a tad slower...LOl
Morning Bob...i think you did, it was from you that I did first hear the phrase used...I can see what you guys mean especially as Servis machines here used the slower wider sweep & arc like Speed Queen, so this does seem really fast....but having used Hoover twinnys that wash in 4 mins and whizz your clothes around at 600rpm they do seem a tad slower...LOl
to Kenmore's defense
I had a 99 Kenmore 90 Series washer up until last year and I never had a problem with it being rough on clothes. I think the key was to never overload it and to use the normal speed for almost everything. As with any washer, not using the proper settings and overloading will cause any washer to be a shredder.
I had a 99 Kenmore 90 Series washer up until last year and I never had a problem with it being rough on clothes. I think the key was to never overload it and to use the normal speed for almost everything. As with any washer, not using the proper settings and overloading will cause any washer to be a shredder.
rayjay
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to Kenmore's defense
Jim, I totally agree. You cannot overload a top loader. I had a Maytag LAT9900, and I updated the agitator to that cork screw one, (Not sure what Maytag called it at the time). I never had a problem. Used it for over 10 years.
Some of it also has to do with the fabric also.
If you buy clothes in K-Mart....... (ducks and runs).
Jim, I totally agree. You cannot overload a top loader. I had a Maytag LAT9900, and I updated the agitator to that cork screw one, (Not sure what Maytag called it at the time). I never had a problem. Used it for over 10 years.
Some of it also has to do with the fabric also.
If you buy clothes in K-Mart....... (ducks and runs).
vintagesearch
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the recipe for a shredpool/shredmore
well here its is someone shows us how we can damage our clothing by severly overloading until the tub is unbalanced or maybe the washer needs to be leveled!!!! my god some people are just....
well here its is someone shows us how we can damage our clothing by severly overloading until the tub is unbalanced or maybe the washer needs to be leveled!!!! my god some people are just....
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Hey, I represent that remark most of the clothes in my closet came from K-mart. LOL I was force do buy new clothes for work when they decided to enforce a dress code. That was about 5 years ago, they are holing up pretty good. I wasn't about to buy expensive clothes just to sit and transcribe digital records, so I went to K-mart and Wal-Mart. I told them if they didn't like what I was wearing give me money and I buy what every they want. I think it all depends on how you take care of the clothes.
Randy, I think that's the most stuffed shredmore I've ever seen. Not a bit of rollover.
rolls_rapide
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Chestermike
My mother used to twist the timer dial on her Hoovermatic deluxe, giving the load around 8 minutes of wash time!
But the clothes held together in the 1970s; most of the clothes came from Marks & Spencer - school shirts and underwear. Towels were 'Horrocks', dad had 'Slazenger' golf shirts, and most stuff was "Made in England".
Nowadays it tends to be cheap, badly finished rubbish.
My mother used to twist the timer dial on her Hoovermatic deluxe, giving the load around 8 minutes of wash time!
But the clothes held together in the 1970s; most of the clothes came from Marks & Spencer - school shirts and underwear. Towels were 'Horrocks', dad had 'Slazenger' golf shirts, and most stuff was "Made in England".
Nowadays it tends to be cheap, badly finished rubbish.
mark_wpduet
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I busted out laughing when I first read the term CRUEL ACTION agitator on this post!
autowasherfreak
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Cruel Action and Shredmore, funniest washer terms I've heard since I joined the list.
hilovane
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I used to say (snidely), that if the agitator speed in a WP/Kenless (182 strokes per minute, or close?)were any faster, you could strap the whole machine to the back of a boat, and go water skiing with it! (LOL)
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It's made for us janitors, plumers, auto mechanics, boilermakers, long haul truckers, construction workers, miners, and other assorted grease jockies. The Shredmore Cruel Action Agitator and its redneck washing machine drivin' a white Ford F-150 Club Cab jingle: Chuka chuka chuka chuka chuka chuka chuka chuka!
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dnastrau
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KitchenAid Shredmore
I am not in the "hate Shredmore" camp but I will say that they are rough on clothes on "fast" agitation. We had a middle-of-the-line 2000 model year KitchenAid toploader (fancy version of the ShredmorePool variants.) It was a flexible machine but didn't have a slow agitation/fast spin combination selection available like some others of the Shredmore variety that I have seen. We would start the cycle on slow agitation and flip the knob to fast spin when the spin cycle started. This reduced the extra wear on clothes using the slower agitation but extracted a bit more water by using the fast spin speed.
It was a reliable machine only needing a new coupler at the four year mark. It wasn't "Whisper Quiet" like it said on the control panel - it sounded like a typical Shredmore and didn't have any insulation in the cabinet or anything like that. We replaced it with a 2007 Maytag Epic 9700 (Duet clone.) I sold the KA on Ebay for $50 - I should have kept it as a second machine for that price since it was still very clean.
Based on what I am now reading about Duets and their sometimes short-lived tub bearings I have a feeling that we may be replacing the Epic sooner than I'd like... Nothing like built in obsolescence - ugh!
Andrew S.
I am not in the "hate Shredmore" camp but I will say that they are rough on clothes on "fast" agitation. We had a middle-of-the-line 2000 model year KitchenAid toploader (fancy version of the ShredmorePool variants.) It was a flexible machine but didn't have a slow agitation/fast spin combination selection available like some others of the Shredmore variety that I have seen. We would start the cycle on slow agitation and flip the knob to fast spin when the spin cycle started. This reduced the extra wear on clothes using the slower agitation but extracted a bit more water by using the fast spin speed.
It was a reliable machine only needing a new coupler at the four year mark. It wasn't "Whisper Quiet" like it said on the control panel - it sounded like a typical Shredmore and didn't have any insulation in the cabinet or anything like that. We replaced it with a 2007 Maytag Epic 9700 (Duet clone.) I sold the KA on Ebay for $50 - I should have kept it as a second machine for that price since it was still very clean.
Based on what I am now reading about Duets and their sometimes short-lived tub bearings I have a feeling that we may be replacing the Epic sooner than I'd like... Nothing like built in obsolescence - ugh!
Andrew S.
strongenough78
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I personally have never had a problem with the fast stroke, dual action Kenmores or Whirlpools. Even with silk shirts, just set it on delecate and they come out fine.
mrcreosote
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Has anyone figured out exactly why they shred?
I have a loaded Series 80 and with 3 jeans in it, it will slice them up.
There is definitely something very wrong since you can see specific slicing/gnawing marks cutting through the denim. You can also see that most of the time where the slicing occurs, the cloth has been bunched or knotted up - it clearly was not freely circulating.
So what can slice?
My #1 Theory is that the agitator base clearance is too great (mine is 3/4") - I can get my fingers entirely under the base. And that is when I can feel the OD base flange edge - if anything gets under that base, this edge will saw its way through the fabric.
Some people have no problems. I believe this is because they don't have a 3/4" base gap. (I think the gap should be as small as possible - maybe 1/8")
EXPERIMENT #1: I'm going to cut a hard styrofoam disc to press fit into the underneath of the agitator base that will close up that clearance.
#2 Theory is that the agitator fins are slotted at the base. So it would be possible to clothing to get dragged through those slots - or gets stuck in them. Of course this would NOT produce the slicing damage. Thus my #2 Theory.
NOTE: I've had very old Kenmores with tiny capacity and you could fill them like a trash compactor and yes, the clothes would not circulate, but they would NEVER be damaged! My Aunt had a Maytag (she retired her Maytag wringer washer and it had an amazing agitator. It hardly moved - let's say it "twitched" and yet, produced massive circulation. If I knew what models had that agitator, I would find a used one immediately.
I have a loaded Series 80 and with 3 jeans in it, it will slice them up.
There is definitely something very wrong since you can see specific slicing/gnawing marks cutting through the denim. You can also see that most of the time where the slicing occurs, the cloth has been bunched or knotted up - it clearly was not freely circulating.
So what can slice?
My #1 Theory is that the agitator base clearance is too great (mine is 3/4") - I can get my fingers entirely under the base. And that is when I can feel the OD base flange edge - if anything gets under that base, this edge will saw its way through the fabric.
Some people have no problems. I believe this is because they don't have a 3/4" base gap. (I think the gap should be as small as possible - maybe 1/8")
EXPERIMENT #1: I'm going to cut a hard styrofoam disc to press fit into the underneath of the agitator base that will close up that clearance.
#2 Theory is that the agitator fins are slotted at the base. So it would be possible to clothing to get dragged through those slots - or gets stuck in them. Of course this would NOT produce the slicing damage. Thus my #2 Theory.
NOTE: I've had very old Kenmores with tiny capacity and you could fill them like a trash compactor and yes, the clothes would not circulate, but they would NEVER be damaged! My Aunt had a Maytag (she retired her Maytag wringer washer and it had an amazing agitator. It hardly moved - let's say it "twitched" and yet, produced massive circulation. If I knew what models had that agitator, I would find a used one immediately.
toploader55
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My theory on shredding is...
1, Overloading to the point of getting the tub so jammed packed none of the clothes ever move, they end up getting moist, the agitator shreds, and that's it.
2, Wrong size Water Level. I had to use a Shredmore for 2 years and Underloading with Extra High water levels and Slow Agitation seemed to relieve the shredding.
3, Mechanically... I feel the stroke is too aggressive. Never likes the machine for that reason. Shredmores always reminded me of some Meth Head. Just chattering away and making no sense with generally hardly any accomplishment but being annoying. Kind of like a Circuit Queen. Pretty to look at, Nice features, but lacking or poor performance. (Sometimes) : )
I don't think your Disc under the agitator will make any difference at all.
Once a Shredmore, always a Shredmore.
But I will say this... Man !!! they last and last and are pretty much indestructible. I have a woman friend that for 15+ years overloads the crap out of that machine and it stil chugs along. I have moved her clothes to the dryer for her and what she packs in that machine, you could fill a 35 lb Milnor. And the machine has NEVER snapped the drive coupler. AMAZING.
How are the results of overloading like that ? They wear things once, have really no soil level, and I don't think they notice. Does the Fabric show signs of wear ???... As they say on Rowan and Martin's Laugh in... "You bet your Sweet Bippy" they show wear.
And Shredmore Believers, Owners, and Advocates... This is a personal opinion and my thoughts. Your mileage may vary.
1, Overloading to the point of getting the tub so jammed packed none of the clothes ever move, they end up getting moist, the agitator shreds, and that's it.
2, Wrong size Water Level. I had to use a Shredmore for 2 years and Underloading with Extra High water levels and Slow Agitation seemed to relieve the shredding.
3, Mechanically... I feel the stroke is too aggressive. Never likes the machine for that reason. Shredmores always reminded me of some Meth Head. Just chattering away and making no sense with generally hardly any accomplishment but being annoying. Kind of like a Circuit Queen. Pretty to look at, Nice features, but lacking or poor performance. (Sometimes) : )
I don't think your Disc under the agitator will make any difference at all.
Once a Shredmore, always a Shredmore.
But I will say this... Man !!! they last and last and are pretty much indestructible. I have a woman friend that for 15+ years overloads the crap out of that machine and it stil chugs along. I have moved her clothes to the dryer for her and what she packs in that machine, you could fill a 35 lb Milnor. And the machine has NEVER snapped the drive coupler. AMAZING.
How are the results of overloading like that ? They wear things once, have really no soil level, and I don't think they notice. Does the Fabric show signs of wear ???... As they say on Rowan and Martin's Laugh in... "You bet your Sweet Bippy" they show wear.
And Shredmore Believers, Owners, and Advocates... This is a personal opinion and my thoughts. Your mileage may vary.
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When ANY washer will shred clothing it is user error. Believe it or not, there are people so stupid that they pack a machine to the point it cannot do what it is supposed to do and cause damage to the clothes. I have had a Whirlpool washer like this and had absolutely NO problems with it. It did promote more lint than most and was a little more aggressive at washing, but other than that it worked quite well.
bobbi
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I own a Kenmore 90 series, direct drive. It does not shred clothes. The Heavy Duty agitation speed IS aggressive, but I only use that setting on my mechanic husband's filthy work jeans, rugs and dog towels. I've never had anything shredded by this machine. The Normal setting is fairly gentle in my opinion. However, I do get a lot of lint, which is probably the case with most TL machines. I long for an overflow rinse machine with a good lint filter.
