There was a $2.00 off coupon in Sunday's paper for All Single Dose Products and one of them was a odor buster. I sure am glad that my laundry does not smell that bad, but I kinda wonder if it might not be the machines that are stinking from all of the cold water washing or the cold water washing not being able to remove the odors.
What is the deal with Persil?
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I used 3 in the Magic Chef & 2 in the Hotpoint
Thomas, you may want to try "not" over dosing this detergent and see what happens. I mean 2 "discs" in that little compact Hotpoint and 3 "discs" in the still somewhat compact Magic Chef, WOW! But then I suppose you do always over dose detergent for every load, don't you?
It will be interesting to see if / how the SCW2GEN sudslocks with just 1 Persil disc. With 2 disc/pods it most definitely will!
Thomas, you may want to try "not" over dosing this detergent and see what happens. I mean 2 "discs" in that little compact Hotpoint and 3 "discs" in the still somewhat compact Magic Chef, WOW! But then I suppose you do always over dose detergent for every load, don't you?
It will be interesting to see if / how the SCW2GEN sudslocks with just 1 Persil disc. With 2 disc/pods it most definitely will!
thatrobguy
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Interesting about the suds lock. I haven't had that happen since I put 1/4 cup of ERA in an HE top loader.
For persil pods, even with my old Maytag water waster, I never found the need to use more than 1 pod. The detergent is plenty concentrated. The only time I ever used two was when I had a very full load of very very dirty camp gear. (that got a double wash it was still so filthy after the first.)
I know some suggest using 2 or 3, and sometimes 4 pods for a single load, but I can't imagine any washing machine actually needing more than one.
For persil pods, even with my old Maytag water waster, I never found the need to use more than 1 pod. The detergent is plenty concentrated. The only time I ever used two was when I had a very full load of very very dirty camp gear. (that got a double wash it was still so filthy after the first.)
I know some suggest using 2 or 3, and sometimes 4 pods for a single load, but I can't imagine any washing machine actually needing more than one.
launderess
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I used 3 in the Magic Chef & 2 in the Hotpoint
That is far too much detergent. Over dosing detergent not only is wasteful but puts extra wear on machine, increases energy and water consumption, isn't great for the environment, and cannot imagine good for textiles as well.
That is far too much detergent. Over dosing detergent not only is wasteful but puts extra wear on machine, increases energy and water consumption, isn't great for the environment, and cannot imagine good for textiles as well.
Is a gray (or worse) scum-line on the agitator and basket an indication of insufficient detergent dosage ... or just an indication of hard water conditions?
launderess
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Can go both ways
Ideally if enough detergent is used hard water minerals and or soils are kept in suspension to be rinsed down drain.
IMHO with some top loaders because of wash action and some other factors whatever scum there is remains to a point on top of water and thus clings to agitator and tub at water line.
Ideally if enough detergent is used hard water minerals and or soils are kept in suspension to be rinsed down drain.
IMHO with some top loaders because of wash action and some other factors whatever scum there is remains to a point on top of water and thus clings to agitator and tub at water line.
Unbeknownst to Hyacinth, someone switched out the contents of her beloved Persil for XTRA.
She was quite annoyed.
Kevin
The thing is not the overdose. It's when the suds lock happened.
During the wash it was ok. first spin, ok. (theoretically i should have a suds cake and a monster suds lock at this point.
Filling for the first rinse.... Booom! I thought i would have suds up to the roof. seconds spin, monster suds lock i had to abort because i was afraid it would end up breaking the belt. it was like 5 seconds filling and the drum suddenly was halfway full with suds and the suds were going up much faster than the water level. (when the hotpoint reached low I already had a suds cake higher than the control panel.) It looked like that hair mousse that expands in contact with the air.
started filling the second rinse.... like 10 seconds filling.... ding! suds disappeared and I was there with that "what?" face, scratching my head, not understanding anything. i mean, all that mountain of foam simply disappeared. it was like a full size top load full of suds and then you suddenly pour a whole bottle of fabric softener. or when you put a piece of styrofoam in a tray with acetone.
But the most interesting is the wash water and the first spin were like i had put nothing in it. no suds, no suds lock. the washer drained just like a final drain using fabric softener.
In other words, when i had the perfect environment for a massive suds lock, nothing happened. When i had an environment that would be impossible to have a suds lock, a monster suds lock happened.
Last night darryl and I ran a load in the Silk Lux using only one disc.
2 sweatpants.... 1 disc.... no suds, no suds lock, it was just perfect.
And the smell... well... Gelson sniffed the pants and said they smell great. I had to focus and sniff it like a dog... i could barely notice some scent (excellent scent by the way), not that musk thing, but too weak.... It almost smelled like nothing.
I liked the Persil, the only bad thing is that I'll have to use only 1 disc, no matter what and stand that boring wash with no suds at all, even knowing that 1 disc is enough to clean well.
The thing is not the overdose. It's when the suds lock happened.
During the wash it was ok. first spin, ok. (theoretically i should have a suds cake and a monster suds lock at this point.
Filling for the first rinse.... Booom! I thought i would have suds up to the roof. seconds spin, monster suds lock i had to abort because i was afraid it would end up breaking the belt. it was like 5 seconds filling and the drum suddenly was halfway full with suds and the suds were going up much faster than the water level. (when the hotpoint reached low I already had a suds cake higher than the control panel.) It looked like that hair mousse that expands in contact with the air.
started filling the second rinse.... like 10 seconds filling.... ding! suds disappeared and I was there with that "what?" face, scratching my head, not understanding anything. i mean, all that mountain of foam simply disappeared. it was like a full size top load full of suds and then you suddenly pour a whole bottle of fabric softener. or when you put a piece of styrofoam in a tray with acetone.
But the most interesting is the wash water and the first spin were like i had put nothing in it. no suds, no suds lock. the washer drained just like a final drain using fabric softener.
In other words, when i had the perfect environment for a massive suds lock, nothing happened. When i had an environment that would be impossible to have a suds lock, a monster suds lock happened.
Last night darryl and I ran a load in the Silk Lux using only one disc.
2 sweatpants.... 1 disc.... no suds, no suds lock, it was just perfect.
And the smell... well... Gelson sniffed the pants and said they smell great. I had to focus and sniff it like a dog... i could barely notice some scent (excellent scent by the way), not that musk thing, but too weak.... It almost smelled like nothing.
I liked the Persil, the only bad thing is that I'll have to use only 1 disc, no matter what and stand that boring wash with no suds at all, even knowing that 1 disc is enough to clean well.
I think they tried to do something like the Argentinian Skip liquid from the 1990's
it was a white liquid almost like elmer's glue (smells great BTW).
When the washer was agitating, it would create lots of suds, when the washer paused to reverse (front loader) the suds disappeared instantly. this would happen for the first 15 or 20 minutes washing.... then the water would just turn white like milk with no suds at all. Never had a suds lock using that detergent, even overdosing.
it was a white liquid almost like elmer's glue (smells great BTW).
When the washer was agitating, it would create lots of suds, when the washer paused to reverse (front loader) the suds disappeared instantly. this would happen for the first 15 or 20 minutes washing.... then the water would just turn white like milk with no suds at all. Never had a suds lock using that detergent, even overdosing.
jerrod6
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Hmm
Guess I better find this new version and the discs and try them out!
Guess I better find this new version and the discs and try them out!
EXCELLENT! (Once you learn how to dose it)
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