What is your idea about GE-Electrolux combination?

[behzad]

Hello folks,
Maybe it seems to be a bit late, but since they decided to sell GE appliances division to Electrolux co; what do you think about it? will it be good for both sides or you may expect ordinary results?
the link below is that massage from GE CEO, I noticed "the best appliance company in the world" said GE, by the way isn't it kinda slogan?

any idea would be great, I appreciate your each opinion.

sincerely'
BJ

http://www.geappliances.com/CEOmessage.htm

 

[gansky1]

It's kind of in a "wait and see" mode at this point since the Dept of Justice filed an antitrust lawsuit blocking the merger of GE and Electrolux.

The complaint from regulators at DOJ looks to be centered on cooking products -

The acquisition "would combine two of the leading manufacturers of ranges, cooktops and wall ovens sold in the United States, eliminating competition that has benefited American consumers through lower prices and more options."

According to the department’s complaint, purchasers in the United States spent more than $4 billion on these major cooking appliances in 2014.

IIRC, the Maytag-Whirlpool merger created some concern on the part of regulators about the laundry division which led to the restructure of KitchenAid/WP/Maytag lines, eliminating laundry from the KitchenAid brand altogether.

Perhaps something will be worked out with Electrolux like this as well.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...electrolux-buying-general-electrics-appliance

 

[behzad]

yes. we should wait and see, but think about if it's gonna be another Maytag!
in my opinion I don't expect quality improvement, even downgrading is really possible!
nowadays globalization makes more money, but about the quality I don't think so.

great reason to sell low-quality appliances!

 

[Practigal]

Legal

GE and Electrolux are brand names and could be owned by anyone and licensed to anyone and slapped on anything. As consumers, all we can hope for is a license agreement that demonstrates that the licensor cares by having having a license agreement with a true quality control provision and that the provision is actually enforced. We can hope that somewhere, someone is deciding that it is worthwhile to spend money on research and development rather than just sitting back and licensing out the GE and Electrolux trademarks.

By the time the right questions are asked, the damage has already been done. The legal departments of both companies have been focused almost solely on the merger (coordinating with outside counsel of course) probably for months. Little other work has been done. Meanwhile the government continues to pour out legislation that affects all of us. A small fortune was probably paid to prepare and make the HSR filing with the FTC...but little effective lobbying about what really impacts this industry has been done... So already the consumers are for worse off.

 

[behzad]

Right,
the question is here: does Electrolux want to introduce new products and brand new inventions, like what they doing in Europe, or just to be more powerful in home appliances industry?

 

[jerrod6]

Perhaps Electrolux does want to introduce new products and brand new inventions, but since they already sell appliances here, there doesn't seem to be anything stopping them from doing that without a merger. On the other hand isn't GE the one who wants to get out of this market?

 

One thing that will probably happen with a merger is that there will be an end to any product being sold with a technical design that was created by a GE design shop.  Instead you will have an Electrolux design with a GE name on it--I guess we will still see that name-don't know.   I don't have experience with current GE or Electrolux products so I don't know if that is good or bad. 

 

 

 

[alr2903]

Here is a link to the GE site,  approx. 3,700 hourly manufacturing jobs.  The median cost of a home in Louisville,  per Zillow  $99,500.   These will be the interesting numbers to watch.   As far as innovation, who knows?

http://pressroom.geappliances.com/facts/ge-appliances-in-louisville-230768

 

[behzad]

No, I don't like to buy an Electrolux product that dressed in the GE style.
This is the worst thing I can expect ever, it's like the Maytag washers made by Whirlpool!

 

[behzad]

she's worrying about the results!

 

[arbilab]

You could buy an Electrosux design labeled GE, Whirlpool, or Frigidaire in 1998. I bought one. In storage now but worked the whole time. Not sure what difference it makes since ALL brands do the same thing and they're all sliding downhill as well.

 

[askolover]

I hope

my trusted Swedish Asko will live forever because I dread the day I can no longer repair the little things that come up or can no longer get parts for it. I have a Miele ready now for my backup machine...as well as a brand new unused KUDI23 dishwasher for when the ol' lonely Jetclean II gives up the ghost. I don't think there are any American machines I'd buy now other than GE dryers that are still identical to the one I bought at Sears in 1998 and is still going strong.

 

[launderess]

Am the same way

Love my older Miele w1070, but am doing more and more washing in the AEG Lavamat to take some of the work off Big Bertha. She's getting on and parts are expensive and becoming difficult to source. That and while my Miele repairman is charming it is getting tiresome his arriving every two or three years like clockwork. *LOL*

 

[behzad]

Hey Launderess

I'm so glad to hear you like your AEG,
and I like the quality and durability of those washers. I just got one
also want to know more about your AEG washer(s), hope you don't mind.

sincerely,
B John

 

[behzad]

Miele, Asko and whatever you mentioned it are Europe-made appliances which are designed and produced in Europe, just export to the US cause some people like the durability, efficiency or anything interesting in and pay for it.
this is totally different story, I guess we gonna face to some low-end appliances came from everywhere, even low-end us-made ones,
I don't like to think this way,though I know it's gonna happen
at least they'll replace the quality of GE goods(yes I like GE), with some middle range stylish appliances,
this is the trick of Electrolux group in the world.
now I'm getting angry, actually people who know AEG may understand me. how Electrolux destroyed a legendary brand named AEG, in my opinion the main challenger of Miele in field of quality, inventions ,etc

sorry about that, maybe I'm wrong cause I can't understand the merge, even now!
however goodbye GE, goodbye all the great thing you brought to our life.

best regards
grieving BJ

 

[henene4]

E-Lux quality

Actually, with their new ProTex line, they put out a pretty solid new platform. Still not the old AEG, but definetivley worth their price.

Actually, their heatpump dryer range is the best after Miele in my opinion. True reversing that actually is sensed rather than pure timed. Verry, verry gentle. Efficent, thourough and with their new ÖkoFlow filter, easy to maintain while still giveing acess to the heat pump.
Further, some actually usefull cycles (Jeans; a bedding cycle that reverses every 2 minutes; it can even safely dry wool).

They kind of damaged them selfes with the 2005-2010 line up, but they really got the curve with the ProTex base. Not "the best", but pretty well made.

 

[behzad]

Hallo Enenene4

I agree, but please just go back in time and think about the genuine AEG
then this is not very good, the quality is already gone,
AEG used to make really solid machines came with stainless steal tub and basket, but now the outer tub is totally made of plastic. I know the plastic is easy to use, recyclable and cheap! that's the point
same as middle-range appliances like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool and ...(sorry)
and guess who still use stainless steal for both the tub and basket? that's Miele, Asko or some limited manufacturers. they used to be local manufactures in Europe, but now became worldwide, totally globalized and reputed for own quality so everybody likes it and pays for it.

MIELE= IMMER BESSER.(that's my German knowledge)

best regards
BJ

PS: look at the solid interior of AEG front load washer, that's really tough ~199?

 

[behzad]

Excuse me, your name is Henene4,
that was my typing fault.

BJ

 

[behzad]

To Arbilab

Hey Arbilab,
I just red what you wrote here, and wanna know more about your 1998(I guess that was a washer), hope you don't mind,
I just want to get more details about it.

best regards
BJ

 

[arbilab]

Hi Behzad. The washer is an Electrolux design and parts, assembled/sold by White US under at least 3 different badges.

Clockwork timer. The only 'electronics' is the motor control module which worked flawlessly. Water is fixed-fill (but adjustable internally), tap hot/tap cold/50% mix. Timed/diluting detergent/bleach/softner drawer. 1 spray and 4 fill rinses.

Motor is brush-DC, tach feedback, reversing, single belt to tub pulley. Slight aberration, if the spin won't balance within time allotted it is skipped. No feedback from motor module to timer. Standalone shaded-pole pump. A roommate fed it a box of wood matches, it didn't gag.

A very straightforward 3-cycle 30-min machine with 600rpm spin. It's said the drum cannot be replaced in parts-- all or nothing. So at some point it's a throwaway. Anybody surprised?

This photo is close but not exact........

 

[behzad]

Hey Arbilab, I just want to say thank you,
I guess Frigidaire used to make stuff like this, it has blackish door seal, I'm right?

BJ