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I like the hidden bake element because it gives you more oven capcity and looks nicer. I don't like it because it takes so long to preheat. I really don't know how long becasue I got tired of waiting and am not in the kithchen watching at times. To bakes something when I get home from work I usually convection it because that heat very fast. I got a small scratch in my cooktop so I got GE to replace it under waranty and while the " Man " was here I asked about why they no longer self clean like the old GE P7 one did and his response was, Goverment Safety regulations make them keep the door surface to a certain temp and so the oven never heats up to the original high temps they use to. THis new one I noticed that the door and window are not perfectly clean even using the longest cycle. My range has a hi and lo self clean cycle. Another thing, THe last two self cleaning ovens I had, both had windows you could watch it clean. I noticed that the broil element was the only one you could see glowing red during most of the time. I only saw the bake element glow near the end, say the last hour. The new one I cannot tell.
 
My subject Drift was cut off in the above post. It was in reference to Toggle's suggestion that "repairmen say the STUPIDEST things"

Actually you wouldn't believe the things that are said to customers. Some just talk to much.

I also prefer open oven elements on electric ranges. I just like to see it glow. And it's easy to change.

As for gas ranges with weak ignitors going boom. This is a relatively new problem. Although ignitors have been used for as long as 30 years in ovens (20 years in almost all of them) this never happened until recently. What is happening is the ignitor isn't strong enough to fully open the gas valve. It opens it just enough to let the gas leak out. And when it finally opens all the way there is a lot of extra gas in the oven. Sometimes the door will blow open. If you have a gas oven that takes longer than a minute or two to lite get it repaired.

Ed
 
Do yourself a favor and buy a GE.
Being a multi-dwelling landlord with a bunch of failing Kenmore ranges show me that GE is superior when it comes to not needed to replace the oven igniter. Since I've replaced my mom's stove with a GE which is coming close to 13 years without a repair and mine that is 9 years is still going strong to this day!

If I choose to replace mine today, it would be the TOL GE with the 5 burners on top, convention oven with glass touch control !
 
Check out the new Maytag 5.3 cu.ft. hidden bake element big ovens. They use a temp-based preheat compared to alot of the other manufacturers using just a time-based preheat. I've witnessed better baking results because of this. Personally, I use a Gemini that I bought at an auction for $32! Someone disconnected the ribbon on the clock. Works like a charm! I love the little upper oven. I use that one almost exclusively. Now, when I need to do a roast or turkey, I'll use the bigger oven. But that little oven is awesome.
 
Thermador

If you want true convection and smooth top cooking that is easy to clean and works like a professional stove, then look at the Thermador brand. It's not a re-tagged Whirlpool or any of that other nonsense. Available in gas, electric, & combination duel fuel. Mark
 
I've been very happy with my KA convection oven. I chose the coil top specifically because I knew I'd end up ruining a glass top somewhere along the road and didn't want anything I had to fuss over, plus coils are easy to replace and faster heating up. The ovens great, I use the temperature probe when needed and love that feature, if only it had a rotisserie. You can dehydrate stuff in it as well but I haven't tried it out. The only thing I don't care for is the window isn't big enough in mine but the new model has a larger window and hidden bake element. The self cleaning feature works very well.
 
I was in an appliance store about a yr or so ago looking for a new gas range. I couldn't believe they had a couple of the discontinued GE spectra ranges with the lighted cooktop. Have to check around to see if any mom and pop shops might still have some of these. I loved those ranges.
 
CleanTeam,

I was looking at that model stove with the glass touch control when I bought mine, I decided on the next level down with the regular knobs. I was not sure if I would like the conrol of the touch panel. I knew, since I was forking out this amount of money ( real choice was the Viking sp? at $5000+ for the smoothtop elctric, the accountant said NO!!!!) I had to live with this choice and my wife for a long time so I picked the one I knew worked well and looked nice and had all my features I wanted. If I did not like the touch control I would never hear the end of it.
 
Nobody has said anything about Magic Chef. We don't have convection, but a great gas range nonetheless. As far as I'm concerned it is just as great as the Monarch range's my Mom and Grandma had when I was growing up. The oven is the exact temp. when finished pre-heating. It has time-bake, self cleaning, and stainless steel drip pans.
 
Am I alone in preferring open-coil electric burners? (I've never used a gas stove, so I can't speak on them). My mom has a '90s GE smoothtop, and you have to be soooo careful what you put on it--no cast iron, no Corning Ware, etc. Classic coil burners are much more forgiving (and make excellent cigarette lighters!).
 
stove vs range terminology

When talking about cooking appliances either from other people or yourself, which terminology seems more prevalent, "range" or "stove". Is it an generational thing?
 
Stove is probably more prevalent. I think the manufacturers use the word range in describing their product..

Now let's not get onto the coke vs pop vs soda thingy... pop is the most prevalent by a slim margin.
 
No cornng ware on smooth-tops? Why? the bottom is flat.

I have found that coils get hotter faster, and one has to be careful not to burn foods.

I stil have my single-element table-top "Buffet" range from college, in case I need a coil or a 5th "burner" .

I dont do cast-iron, (but have been thinking about it) so no big deal to me.

The new smooth-tops are the BEST, IMHO. Induction will make them even better.
 
Edward/ repair-man.

What's the scoop on hidden oven bake-elements.
How do they work?
Hwo do they get replaced?

I really don't see the need if the oven is self-cleaning.
Actually, I kinda like to see the red glow too!

...and great idea guys. If I should get a convection (fan) oven where I can have a quick pre-heat, then one can swith over to regular bake if that is the needed setting.
 
Tried that recently. Honestly, convection didn't seem to preheat any faster. But maybe I wasn't paying close attention.
 
IIRC- I am just guessing here, but i don't think the (fan) convection element is very powerful.

Aanyone know what the wattage is in a standard (our std, that is) 30 inch wide (75 cm) oven?
 
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