whats difference between fabric conditioners and fabric softeners?

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hello all, hope everyone is having a great new year so, I have a question a who better than to ask all of you genius AW members so here it is:

whats the difference btween fabric softeners and fabric conditioners?

From what i see here in the stores where i live fabric conditioners are far less expensive, smell usually better, soften more and, one important one for me at least more crucial than anything doesnt give me an allergic reaction.
So whats it all about? We have purchased some where they are more infamously found at discount stores and another question why is one "downy" brand called a fabric conditioner and the other a softener? Other than it being made in places than mexico or puerto rico. The most popular one from my island of heritage (puerto rico) is "suavitel" i was surprised we had it here for so long even at walmart,kmart,target everywhere.
My parents usually purchase anything cheap or snuggle,downy,gain fs,and yes fs (purple bottle).
So i will stay tuned for all your informative answers take care i wish my question were somewhat shorter lol!
 
softener vs. conditioner

It might be a matter of language..."fabric softener" translates as "suavizador de telas" in Spanish, which Colgate cleverly downsized into the "Suavitel" brand name...fabric conditioner," if I am correct, is "acondicianador de telas"...

But "conditioner" sounds richer and more elegant than "softener", kinda like the difference between "trash man" and "sanitation engineer."

In my own experience, however, "conditioner" is usually reserved for the new fancy combinations, like "roses and lavender," "sandalwood and lemon," and so on...

Funny too that Snuggle was originally introduced as "snuggly softness that's really less expensive" and Final Touch (Unilever's other brand) was the premium brand...and now Final Touch is the cheap stuff and Snuggle is now the flagship brand!
 
Okay.

Overseas, fabric softeners are commonly referred to in ENGLISH as "fabric conditioners". You see this in England, Australia, etc.

If you go to a traditonal, American, big-name supermarket in the New York City area, and buy a product such as Suavitel, whose identity has roots overseas, it is most likely to be not a concentrated version, but a 64-ounce bottle with bilingual labelling (example "Acondicionador de Telas/Fabric Conditioner")...this product may be a bit thinner than, let's say American Downy or Gain Fabric Softener, but, to me, is still essentially a fabric SOFTENER in the mainland sense.

Now, if you go to the dollar store, you'll notice much smaller-sized bottles of Downy, Suavitel, and sometimes other unfamiliar brands. These products have a somewhat different texture, not necessarily thicker or more powerful, but generally a MUCH more powerful or different fragrance added to it.

These products are almost always exclusively labelled in Spanish only, because they are targeted by the corporations that manufacture them DIRECTLY to the Spanish-speaking populations that favor them in the US, AS WELL AS Spanish-speaking populations in Spanish-speaking populations in Mexico, PR, etc. (the Dominican community generally use other products)....

If a bottle's label is exclusively in Spanish, and it has a label stating "Made in USA", it may also have been produced in Puerto Rico. It may also have a message on it that says something to effect of "(not) for use in the Continental United States" or something, but we still see them.

I have found (and heard from other launderers) that the dollar-store products have a higher rate of reactivity from individuals who use them then the US supermarket varieties that have bilingual labels. I used the small-bottle, dollar store Downy that has an extreme floral fragrance--nothing like the "ultra Downy" or, for old-schoolers, "Downy TC" (triple concentrated) formulas--for many years, despite the messy, drippy, old-fashioned pink cap, and consistently broke out and was irritated more frequently....I have tried the miniature white Snuggle "baby" formula in the dollar store...and STILL react skin-wise to it.

This is not a cost savings long term. In my opinion, it's not worth it.

If you have an A&P, Waldbaum's, or Food Emporium near you, check out their America's Choice FABRIC RINSE, which differs from America's Choice Fabric SOFTENER. It comes in a big, light-blue, bleach-bottle shaped container with a plain white cap. It will be marked "Made In Canada" and is made (I think) by Colgate-Palmolive and closely resembles the Canadian "Fleecy" brand.

It is much less expensive, is VERY lightly-scented and dyed, very light-blue, and leaves a decent degree of softness without the waxy heaviness that (I believe) causes a lot of skin sensitivity.

I have tested and found that the supermarket-brand (never Solo or Xtra, etc.) knockoff of Downy Regular Concentration softener and even the least-expensive pink fabric softeners are less irritating. I have no idea why, except for my waxy theory and the fact that, when you let these corporations start THINKING they know what we want, they never give us what we need.....

You can try the white-bottle Downy Sensitive concentrate with no fragrance, but odds are that won't go over big with your parents, who probably expect to see SOME fragrance and color in their softener.....it is also fairly expensive.

Bottom line? The fragrance and consistency of the CONTENTS of the bottle are far more important than whether they call it conditioner, "acondicionador", softener, or rinse. Also, everyone's skin is different.

Try using half as much fabric softener in the final rinse, and replace the difference with an equivalent amount of white vinegar. This does something to the final rinse--cheaply--that makes clothes less irritating and is okay to mix with fabric softener. Any leftover vinegar smell vanishes as the clothes dry.

Do NOT add fabric softener in with the detergent for the wash cycle, thinking the extra rinse will do it good. It cancels out the cleaning powder of the detergent, cause shmutzy buildup on your clothes, and undermine the good health of the innards of your machine!
 
fabric softeners vs. fabric conditioners

Good explanation, oxydolfan1...but the TC formula of Downy is now called Ultra Downy or in the case of Snuggle, 3x concentrate...the so-called regular softeners found in the dollar stores often use the phrase "non-ultra" (I notice Dawn and Joy dishwashing liquids clearly label their regular formulas as "non-ultra" and even say "Look for Ultra Joy!" or "Look for Ultra Dawn" right on the bottles)...
 
Yep....and the companies did that, by popular request.

The "ultra" dish liquids are simply too harsh for some hands, and using "ultra" dish liquid is not recommended for handwashing of delicates, which the regular concentration dish liquids are fine for.

Also...the "ultra" fabric softeners caused a lot of people to react skin-wise, although it is not known whether or not the new formula itself was to blame, or if it is simply too much easier for the launderer to over-dose with it in the final rinse.
 
thank you everyone!...,

thank you for the insight, i kind of thought there might have been no real difference.I like our american stuff generally here better it was only when i visit relatives in pr and shop for or with them i notice these different things. However with the rise of spanish speaking immigrants that are here now (among many other places as well) I noticed now, its true they are trying to sell this fabric conditioner(like everything else)to appeal to them I remember my parents even bought a huge bottle from costco when they use to carry it(around 01' and 02'). I agree with you oxydolfan1 and bongobro its just pretty much what they call it overseas because when i first heard of "fabric conditioner" i was thinking "what the hell is that"? Im used to seeing softener. I also saw something online about a softener from london and it was labeled "fabric conditioner" your right overseas its knowned by that so anyways thanks again for the insight.

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