Which Magazine January Test Results

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I have just received the January issue of Which magazine, with the up to date washing machine test results. I don’t have a scanner, so cant scan it in; shout if you want to know how any model got on.
High level view is:
Their Top 5 Best Buys were (as Which’s Order):
Zanussi – Electrolux ZWF14581
Whirlpool SCW1012 (large capacity)
John Lewis JLWM1407
John Lewis JLWM1203
Miele Prestige Plus

At the very bottom of the pile was the Hoover 8122 Vision HD, with test score of 43% and 28th out of 28 machines on test

The Aqualtis came 16th, Insight came 7th and the Indesit Moon came 17th

Please feel free to get in touch for any more info!!
Cheers Guys
Chris
 
What's the methodology employed by Which?

It looks like Electrolux via all of their brands have done quite well...

Any further details on the Aqualtis range? Which models were tested etc?
(Vested interest as I own an Aqualtis AQGD 169S - 8KG Silver 1600 RPM)
 
Mr X:
they tested 2 aqualtis machines - your one (the 8kg model) came 16th and the 7.5kg model, with 1200 spin came 21st.

They have mentioned that to get decent results from this machine, you have to select the White's cycle for everything, and reduce the temp accordingly. the other cycles are designed for light soiling i.e. sweat. Hotpoint have been interviewed for this report and agree with Which's findings; although i guess their tests are far more harsh than what the average machine would have to deal with on a daily basis

Mr Boilwash:
The best machine on test for rinsing was the Indesit Moon!!! it was the only machine to get 5 stars - nothing got four stars then it was Miele, LG, Servis, AEG who got three stars. Two stars were Whirlpool, Electra, Candy, One star was Hoover, Maytag, Hotpoint Aqualtis, Zanussi, John Lewis
 
Indesit getting 5 stars for rinsing?????

Either Indesit have got their act together (doubtful) or someone got a backhander!!!
I know I have a BOL indesit (not a year old and not my choice of machine) but I have to put EVERY load through another 2 rinses to get a satisfactory result. Does the Moon do more than 2 rinses as standard?
I need to be convinced before I buy an Indesit...
 
Dyson Contrarotator results

They cannot rate the Dyson Contrarotator as it is currently not in production.
 
The Moon has a suds/turbidity sensor and rinses until the water runs clear there's no set number of rinses!

There are a couple of things on the Aqualtis which Which? may not have taken into account.

The Coloureds cottons cycle is not all that long, about 1:35 and quite effective for normal soiling.

However you have 2 additional options : "Super Wash" and "Extra Rinse".

Super wash lengthens the was cycle time and gives it a much more aggressive tumbling pattern. It takes the clothes up to near distribution speeds every so often. I'm not sure if it increases the water level too, although it might. - The results with this extra option are VERY impressive even with very bad staining.
I wonder if Which actually tested with that option on?

Extra rinse, does exactly what it says on the tin - adds an extra rinse!
It's worth remembering it does pretty serious interim spins too - I've had no issues with rinsing at all really.
 
BOL Indesit...

HAve to say in this machines favour, the 60 degree cottons wash is very good. It does around 4 distribution spins during the wash and that seems to do a great job on my whites. I still have to do a further 2 rinses! IIRC the effectiveness of the rinses does have some bearing on the overall quality of the wash. Hope Indesit/ hotpoint can start a new trend of cheap washers giving good results!!!
 
I still don't think you can generalise about the Hotpoint and other Indesit brands though as they span such a range of prices.

From quite upper-middle end to really BOL stuff at the lower end.

Realistically they ought to hive their better machines off into a single brand, perhaps Hotpoint-Ariston and then use Indesit for the cheaper stuff rather than mixing it all up with cheap and expensive machines using both brands.

i.e. Indesit Moon really ought to be Hotpoint-Ariston Moon
and the various cheap Hotpoint-Aristons ought to become Indesit!
 
Hoover Vision HD at the bottom of the pile

So what was so wrong about the Hoover? Seems a shame the most interesting and innovative machine to come out in 2007 IMHO doing so badly. I hope it's not the usual Hoover story of "great idea - poorly executed". From what we've been shown here it seems like a decent machine on the whole - nice water levels for example. Not sure I'd really want to jam 8kg of clothes in that drum and the programs seem slightly odd; calling a program "Acrylics" sounds more 1977 than 2007 to me. Does anyone know if the basic models have an easy care cycle? I can't see clearly from any of the pics I've come across. Praise is defintely due for making machines that aren't stupidly deep too - so often overlooked by the other manufacturers and can really narrow choice if the plumbing's behind the washer under a worktop in a corner.

Funnily enough, I've just been to my local Currys and there was a distinct lack of the Vision HD, though a Nextra 8kg has appeared...so what's the name of the game?

Anyway, enough musing from me - I'm supposed to be looking for a job!

Bye!

Al
 
I'm suprised the Hoover Vision HD was at the bottom of the pile! I have the 1600 8kg Vision HD Machine and I must say it outperforms all my other washers! Never have I had a machine where you can program high water levels for cotton washes, and if you like have 5 half-way up the door rinses, all with interim Spins.
Its strange though the drum on it is huge, vastly bigger than my old Zanussi in all ways, width, depth e.t.c, but the machine itself is slightly less deep than previous ones which is quite intresting I think!
Like I say I really cannot fault this machine which is rare because I'm usually the first to fault something LOL

Would be very intresting to see what problems theyve found with it!!

Richard
 
I'm with you on that one samsungfl. I had the older vison 8kg 1400 and bought the newer 9kg vision with invertor motor and I would say that they are the best machines I've had.
The water levels are huge, the interim spins fast and you can get upto 5 high level rinses. I subscribed to which online last night as i wanted to see what they had scored it so low and to be honest I can't really tell you apart from the say it has terrible rinsing. but with all that water and fast spins after the wash and inbetween rinses I just can't see it.

They also said that it has one of the worst water extractions they had seen. Again, not sure how they come to this as I have had the 1400 models which spind for nearly 13 mins on the final. 3 being 600-800, the a constant 1000 for 4 mins, upto 1200 for four mins and then 1400 for 2 mins. Even if you take into account that it's a 1200 model and cancel the last 2 mins that still a good spin cycle. That coupled with the large drum has given the best water extaction I have ever known.. Am wondered if they have scored the spin of the quick wash, which only spins at 800.. I can't think of anything else other than a mistake has been made.
It scored as one of the best for cottons washing and 30C.
Another puzzling thing is that on all the reports for the bosch machines it mentions that rinsing isn't v ery good, but you can add an extra rinse if needed making it better - but no mention of the sensitive care button on the vision that adds upto another three rinses!
it's strange that they tested the bottom of the line vision as well whereas every other make includes a top of the line model tested as well!
 
Very Strange!

I think its really bad that due to incorrect testing they can come up with theories like this about Hoover Vision, Because we all know they are rather good LOL! Ah I must ask what's the Inverter Motor like on yours!? Mine has a Brush Motor but Ive been shocked with it as its not one of those typical noisy screechy ones, just hums away whilst washing, and even on spin you cant hear it going really till its at about 400 or so!! Distribution speed always sounds great on it!

Richard
 
I'm wondering if the Aqualtis scored poorly as by default it does a shorter wash than most machines. If you want a longer coloured cottons wash you have to opt for super wash ...

Makes perfect sense to me as most people do unnecessarily long washes most of the time...

The likes of Miele tends to have a default long cycle with a 'short' button...

So, the default colour cotton wash on the aqualtis for example is similar to a Miele 40C wash with the short option selected...

I don't necessarily think some of the tests are a fair comparison unless you select identical cycles.
 
Which? test the standard cycles, and they usually mention if a modifier will help with any problems at all.

The new Bosch and Siemens machines, along with some of the Electrolux group and Miele machines, seem to be getting better at rinsing.
 

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