Which Miele W1?

[logixx]

QuickPowerWASH

They don't call it that for nothing. Miele made a fairly big deal out of that cycle when it was first introduced here. We even had flyers in our store.

The idea is to have a cycle that achieves "A Class cleaning performance in under one hour". Previous quick cycles were usually just that - a quick cycle to more or less refresh clothes, without attaining that A Class cleaning rating. I suppose rinsing and spinning were never the primary focus. Basically every manufacturer has since followed and introduced their own 1hrs. cycle, sometimes with similar so-so rinsing and spinning performance.

My "European-cycles" Duet also has a Daily Wash cycle that takes 60 minutes. Each rinse tumbles for three minutes once filled, there are interim spins and the final spin lasts 15 minutes. Washing only lasts for 30 minutes; especially when connected to cold water only, this is hardly enough time to heat to 104F when using the stated capacity of 6KG. It's also only meant to tackle lightly soiled clothes.

 

[henene4]

Poor rinsing

It is a shame they don't allow an extra rinse to be added.

Though the EU version has been reworked several times, rinsing has been ok to meh depending on load since day one.
I use it only with new clothes or if I need something actually that quickly.

The most current EU version is 49min for loads up to 4kg. That only does one interim spin after the wash. This uses the PowerWash style heating.
In theory, with a load greater that 4kg that should take 59min and run with a normal "deep" fill wash.

If you take off the Short option it takes 1:15 with an additional interim spin after the first rinse, longer final spin and a few more minutes of washing.
The main wash is about 40-55min depending on setting.

The setting "tacho + EZU" should be what incorporates a sensor on one of the PCBs.
Idea is that if cabinet movement is to high it cancels the spin aswell.
Changing that wouldn't be problematic per se, but since you are in warranty, I wouldn't risk it.

 

[hippo]

@henene4, I have also seen my USA model add the additional time. It makes sense now that you say it is for heavier loads, although I didn't think the loads it was doing that with were so large, maybe a couple pants and shirts. I haven't used the cycle enough to get a great feel for its behavior, however. The extended time for a large wash doesn't seem necessary with hot fill but they probably didn't want to go to the trouble of reprogramming the cycle for hot fill machines.

Do you know what EZU stands for? And does it cancel or delay the spin if the only the cabinet movement is too high? Or drum movement as well?

 

[hippo]

@henene4, I forgot to mention, there is no short option on any cycle on USA machines. It seems to be the default here due to the hot fill.

 

[launderess]

"for linen or cotton towels used for personal hygiene."

One supposes to distingish between other sort of towels, such as microfiber used for various cleaning or other purposes.

"It seems to run best and have the least issues with balancing when you run full loads.."

On average H-axis washing machines have less issues washing, rinsing and spinning when loaded to full capacity. That of course would vary by cycle chosen, but for "normal" cottons or linens it seems to make a difference IMHO.

My older Miele washer is certainly happy doing full loads. Far less problems with balancing and so forth.

Modern AEG washers what one considers a "full" load versus machine's computers is another matter. Times when drum is barely one-half to three-quarters filled will give out load sensing reading of "100%". This is usually with very absorbent things like towels, etc....

 

[littlegreeny]

I ran a huge load of towels tonight on the normal cycle, 140F, 1600 spin with extra rinse and it had absolutely zero issues balancing or spinning and the towels turned out great. It took about twice as long but I had properly washed, rinsed and spun towels. And even with the normal cycle, the door got nice and hot.

The lesson is run full loads when washing towels.

 

[launderess]

After a while of owning and using your new washer you'll sort out what cycles are best for what. This versus the others which may sound wonderful, but often either are rubbish or just surplus to requirements.

Modern computer controlled front loaders have a vast and bewildering array of cycles. But truth to tell most households find only a handful useful on consistent basis.

 

[chachp]

My cycle usage:

 

The cycles I use:

 

Extra White – I use this for our T -Shirts and it does a great job.

 

Sanitary – I use this for hubby’s white socks and all and cleaning towels, dish towels, etc. and always get great results.

 

Sportswear – for our exercise clothes those that are spandex type clothes.

 

Dress Shirts – I use this for all of my casual shirts, think Hawaiian type shirts.  The shirts come out with practically no wrinkles.  I hang dry them.

 

Towels – I used to use this for towels but based on all the discussions here I have modified and am happy with the results.  I have used the Baby Clothes with Extra Water and an Extra Rinse.  My Rinse level is permanently set at the higher level.  Very happy with the towels.

 

Baby Clothes – this has basically replaced my use of Normal which I was using for a number of things.  I have never watched it for a complete cycle so I have no idea what it is doing but I will say given the same temp and same amount of detergent the clothes feel so much softer out of the Baby Clothes cycle.  I don’t know if it uses more water, more rinses, who knows I just know it makes a real difference.  They are very soft but not the kind of soft you get with a fabric softener which I never use just really very soft.

 

I do use the other cycles occasionally depending on what I am doing.  If the washer has a cycle for that item, I will try it and adjust as necessary.  The exceptions so far have been replacing the Towels cycle with the Baby Clothes cycle and replacing Normal with Baby Clothes pretty much.  So, even after two years I am amazed at the versatility of my W1 machine thanks to all those here who have shared their experience and testing results.

 

[littlegreeny]

Thanks everyone!

I appreciate everyone's responses and your suggestions. I've been experimenting with the cycles myself and am still deciding whether I like the baby clothes or extra white cycle better for my sheets. I have very oily skin and my sheets are dark gray so they show the oil and it's easy to tell if they're clean. The last few times I used the extra white cycle, 140F, prewash and the allergy setting with success. I have a feeling they'll get cleaner with each subsequent wash as hidden buildup is removed.

 

[derrick352]

Technical Service Bulletin

Keep in mind if your machine does not exhibit this issue and receives an "update" with new software... It may be the software that has this issue. Therefore your W1 will now have same problem as some already have. Miele has made NO attempt to stop updating machines with this errant software. New units just introduced also have this issue depending on model. Germany decided to load errant firmware on these new models knowing the software was flawed to begin with.

There should be some type of notice given to dealers and passed down to consumer before purchasing a W1 machine. Do not count on this issue ever getting corrected. Time frame for spring 2022 software to correct issues will make it approx 1 year when Miele became aware of this problem, if not more time than that. How could it take this long is beyond me.