Which Waring Blendor Is Older?

[rp2813]

I always thought the "beehive" or "Xmas tree" style base was the earliest type, but recently saw a NIB one for sale on ebay and it had a late '50s date on the box. 

 

I have a Waring Blendor recipe book with the "rocket ship" style base pictured on the front, and it has copyright dates of 1940 through 1947.

 

I know the "beehive" type was produced prior to the '50s, but now I'm not sure which type is older.

 

I have a "beehive" model 700B and I always thought it was produced on either side of WWII.

 

The "rocket ship" style models are "FC" followed by a one- or two-digit number.

 

I can't find any information on line.

 

Does anybody know approximate manufacturing dates for these two styles?  Based on the copyright dates in the recipe booklet, I'm thinking the "rocket ship" type is older than the model 700 "beehive" type.

 

I've attached pictures of both models.

 

[toploader55]

I don't know for sure but...

I'm going to guess the Bee Hive is older.

 

[rp2813]

Yeah Eddie, I thought so too, until I saw that one with a late '50s date on the box. 

 

From what I've found on line, the originals looked like taller versions of the beehive.  It's certainly the older style if not the older machine.

 

I'm really surprised there's no information on line and apparently no knowledge among the membership here.

 

[Ultramatic]

 

 

I have a beehive base. It's has sort of like a rough, stone grey finish. I guess it's from the 1990's.

 

[petek]

Here's the 1938 patent  showing it as a beehive shape 

http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=02109501&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO1%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526d%3DPALL%2526p%3D1%2526u%3D%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25252Fsrchnum.htm%2526r%3D1%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526s1%3D2,

 

[rp2813]

Thanks Pete.

 

Here's another image of an early beehive.  As can be seen, the early ones were taller with four distinct tiers, and appeared narrower than the beehives that came later.

 

So I guess the question is,  when did the shorter beehives go into production, and whether it was before or after the rocket ship type.

 

 

 

[toploader55]

Here are the 2 Beehives I have.

The one with the Carafe on it is a 702B and the other motor is a 702A

If that Helps.

 

[toploader55]

Flea Bay

Just saw this on Flea Bay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1930s-Atomic-Rocket-Waring-Blender-Retro-Blendor-Art-Deco-/151641153240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234e845ed8

 

[jetcone]

That Osius patent has confounded me for years

Osius invented the most widely used version of the  modern blender hands down but somehow- and I'm not sure how, Osius was connected to Fred Waring the band leader who put his name on the Waring Blendor for marketing reasons. However Osius also somehow morphed into the Osterizer Blender at about the same time 1938. The two being different companies. If you look at the patent Osius is not connected with any company, he is the sole inventor. What could have happened, and I think this is correct based on the patents and all the citations that follow, was he sold rights to two different marketers. However just to totally to confuse things further there was a John Oster who owned a large shearing company that made clippers for hair, sheep, hedges. He used a patent by a Stephen Poplawski 1,997,873 - 1933 for a "drink mixer which has a self contained blender blades carried in the cup". 

Then there is Vita Mix- originally the "Natural Foods Institute who came along in the 1930's as well with their own design of which I can't see any patent but the first model was made by the same company that made Eski-Mix. The vita mix with the black base label is the 1938-9 earliest machine, the red base label is a 1949 and is called "Papa Barnard's" vita mix and was the first product ever used in the very first infomercial made.  Papa Barnard invented the infomercial. 

The green based Osterizer is their very first model and dates from the 1930's and it is solid cast iron with - of course- the cutting blades mounted in the base of the cup.

I believe the two beehives date from the 1930's the Rocket ship was a '40's redesign. They made several versions of the Rocket ship, the common gold cheaper model, the white with chrome legs more expensive and the rare today Bar blendor which was all black bakelite with red trim up the center of the legs and the glass for the bar blendor was a 4 leaf clover but was clear not ribbed. I gave Jeff & Cal this model as it goes so well with their decor. 

 

 

[rp2813]

Jon, I did some of the same research you did and still find myself trying to sort out the sketchy history of not only Waring, but blenders in general.

 

Interestingly, the rocket ship type that Eddie provided the link to on ebay has the clear carafe instead of the ribbed/reeded type.  I've seen a lot of blenders of all makes with carafes that were not originals to the base, so maybe the ebay one falls into that category.

 

At this point, I'm inclined to think that the shorter beehive base on Warings had a very long run, perhaps into the '60s, whereas the rocket ship was produced for only a few years if you take into account the gap created by WWII.  In fact, if I'm not mistaken you can still buy a reproduction beehive type at Sur La Table and other such retailers, and in decorator colors.

 

With that in mind, I'd say there's a good chance that any rocket ship type one might come across is likely going to be older than almost any beehive out there. 

 

I just picked up a rocket ship type and intend to use it at my bar.  It takes up less room than the trusty old single speed thrift store Waring beehive I've had for over 35 years, and its carafe has Waring's version of an ice crusher blade design, which I've discovered works just as well as the supposedly revolutionary type that Oster offers.

 

The beehive will shift to the patio bar, as I recently dug up another carafe with the ice crusher type blade for it in my stash of direct drive spares.

 

 

 

[appliguy]

I'm not sure how, Osius was connected to Fred Waring

According to my research Fred Waring offered to back Osius’ invention with the needed capital to make it a reality…PAT COFFEY

 

[midcentnurse]

Saw this at GW today but it was pretty light weight. Idk which stand mixer I want but I know it's got to be heavy duty quality. The but in nutone is cool but the beater mechanism is locked up and the usable space in the bowl due to the tower, like a bundt pan, is really small. Hmmm, sunbeam?

 

[turquoisedude]

Run like hell!

If you're looking for a heavy-duty mixer,  don't go for a GE like this one.  They don't have the guts a Sunbeam or older Dormeyer have, trust me.  I'll bet dollars to donuts that if you plugged it in, you'll get nothing but High speed, too.  The speed controls of this style of GE mixers were, well, awful and not easy (if even possible) to repair.  

 

[jetcone]

Ralph

did you buy a new Rocket Ship or a vintage one?

 

Pics??

 

Pat I think you got it, Waring backed Osius and his famous name was to be the maidenhead to launch the Blendor.

WHOA !! Stunning new Blendor from Waring - Inverted and 1-3/4 horsepower  !!!   Made in U.S.A.

 

 

 

 

[this post was last edited: 4/8/2015-16:20]

http://www.waringpro.com/catalog.php?pcID=131_134&product_id=573

 

[petek]

The inverted jar above:

Isn't the first time for this from Waring.. My "tabletop" Waring from the 70's came with two glass jars, the regular cloverleaf jar with handle and that near identical inverted jar for cocktails etc.. but without a handle.   

 

[rp2813]

That new inverted model is an interesting design.  They even went back to the original four-tiered taller beehive for the base.

 

Jon, I bought a vintage rocket ship.  I haven't yet taken possession of it, though.  I'll provide pix once I start the process of making it presentable. 

 

I think the rocket ship has more art deco elements in its design than the beehive.  Like if Elsa Lanchester had a blender in the Frankensteins' kitchen, it would be that one.

 

 

 

 

 

[petek]

Here's the  Waring tabletop I mentioned above with its inverted cocktail jar. 

 

[petek]

My newer model rocketship with newish Waring Kitchen Classics model with ss jar. 

 

[midcentnurse]

petek that tabletop blender is fantastic!!