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With that tarriff, there is a chance that WP might boost quality a bit because they are not in a cut-every-corner price war w/ the Koreans.

Besides, free, unbalanced trade has killed so many US industries. Remember Zenith and RCA leading the TV and electronics industry? The last vestages of the Zenith brand are owned by LG and RCA is just a liscensing name. The govt. of the time let the Japanese and Koreans kill the US industry, they knew about dumping on part of the Japanese and for favorable relations in other negotiations, let the unthinkable happen. Also, I'm starting to think that consumers on a whole are stupid and cannot be bothered to think of long term quality and buying the best so you only have to buy once.

Without the government, RCA and Zenith went from leading the pack in 1975 to falling fast by 1985. They had to start cutting their own corners to price compete because few would pay for quality anymore. RIP Sarnoff Labs...
 
Lg really slapped most American appliance companies in the face. They make a superior product, that lasts longer, AND it’s cheaper. Let’s put aside for a moment the currency difference and labor.

Whirlpool has been riding on its own coat tails for years now. Their technology is behind lg by at least 5 years.

Lg came out with a dual evap fridge with a linear compressor and took the market by storm. Whirlpool slaps some pos version together and it’s like they forgot how to braze back at the factory. Ge just said f it and slaps their badge on a Samsung unit. Frigidaire is such a disaster on so many levels that I can only hope they go out of business.

Anybody ever try and get warranty service on one of the 3 American companies? Ge is 3 weeks out.

I had a power surge at my house and it blew the board on my lg fridge. I called at 8 am Friday, the guy was out by Noon THAT DAY. It was fixed by noon Saturday. That’s Service.

Instead of tariffs whirlpool should devote more of their resources to engineering and build a better product.
 
Seems just stupid

From an economic point of view, this will only worsen the situation. There will be basicly no competition on the market.
EVERYTHING will be Whirlpool.
It's like giving a treat to a dog that pooped in the house.
LG and Samsung found ways to make better and cheaper products that Americans like and can afford.
Whirlpool did... Nothing?
And for that, Whirlpool will get a benefit.

Thinking that Whirlpool will give its advantage on to the customer is just uneducated.
You think that Whirlpool will loose out on any revenue? They won't change a thing.
It's a companys dream: More revenue WITHOUT CHANGING A SINGLE THING.

Further, economicly speaking, this will worsen the consumers situation.
You see, the consumer is at the bottom of the pyramid of money flow.
A consumer works for a company and gets money from them.
The consumer then spends that money with other companys.
They keep some for them selfes and spend only part of it on their employees.
If a company would pay every employee exactly what his or her work was worth, the company wouldn't make revenue.
So - strictly speaking - no consumer will ever be abled to afford the goods or services they produce or provide.

Forcing Americans to buy American products thus is a longterm basicly impossibly workable system.
 
Can't argue with you Lorainefurniture about building a better product.. but LG and Samsung are hardly superior to Whirlpool in any way.. sorry I am a fan of WP and have had and am having great service from their products.

I have a WP quiet wash dishwasher that is 27 years old last month..still a great dishwasher and just earlier in the year bought a new WP fridge to replace a 25 year old WP fridge... so far so good.

I think WP weak area is probably their ranges. They are literally tin cans in construction. Even Frigidaire ranges look and feel more substantial. Their pro ranges are well made it seems though. They should be for the prices they get for Kitchen aid and Jennair.
 
High failure rate LG linear compressors...

Apparently the LG linear compressors commonly fail after ~1 1/2 years of use-valves break up :)Have 10 year compressor warranty,but replacement labor only covers 1 year...The 2014 LG top load I junked this year had some design errors thatcaused it,s early demise...
 
I’m not saying lg is perfect

I’ve changed many linear lg compressors. In fact, I have 2 at my shop. I can’t tell you how many wp fridges I scrapped due to system leaks. Overall their product is better than whirlpool/ge/Electrolux. The American people are agreeing (with their wallets) too.

I wish whirlpool would make another quality unit. I love my direct drive ka washer. Their dryers are fantastic. For literally a few dollars more during manufacturing they can make a product last 3x as long.
 
Wanting to make stuff last

There has been a trend since basicly the end of the war: Things get cheaper.

The first automatics cost one or even multiple entire monthly salarys of most people. 300 odd dolars back then, equal to several thousand dollars today.
Today, a washer and dryer set goes for just about what an average family has as disposable income in a month.
Same with TVs: In dollars, a TV today and back 50-70 years are between 300-1000$.
Back then however, that amount of money was worth several times what it is today.

So, you can say, the ration between how many months worth of money you spend and how long the average appliance lasts has stayed about equal.
And that is important to the manufacturer: Income/revenue has been about stable.

If a machine would last twice as long, the manufacturer would have to sell it for twice as before to keep an equal income per time.
And no manufacturer could say at twice the price suddenly.
 
Ya,pet rocks more a gen.jones thing :)for millenials it is smartphone apps and I-tunes cards(at least my nephew anyway :)GEN.x was video games,skateboards... :)Funny how marketers are hovering over millenials,but many don't want to buy anything tangible or own a car,home,ETC...
 
henene4 when you say advanced... in what ways are LG more advanced?.. . I mean something that has been standardized or some flashy gimmick? Did they invent some industry wide standard on their appliances? What advanced engineering does LG have that Whirlpool doesnt? Serious question.

For example, you have seen from this very website that WP had FL combo washers nearly 60 years ago that were "High Efficiency" long before the term was even around and heaters to boot! Recirculation pumps that only recently LG and Samsung use. Though that was a long time back.

LG dryers are a direct knockoff of WP built dryers. I don't really see the advanced engineering. LG makes products that are more prone to an early date with a landfill.

Just my opinion though.
 
More advanced

1. Actual weight sensing. WP still just adjusts by absorbency AFAIK on their FLs. LG has been truely sensing for load weight since day 1 basicly.
2. Recirculation. Why dosen't WP have that? Easy to add, huge boost in performance.
3. Spray rinsing. Basicly only avaible on LG.
4. Wash patterns. Just tumbling works fine. Stuff like distribution tumbles take that a step further on the LG.
5. Keep in mind they made steam a thing.
 
OK

My house is definitely a Whirlpool house - And since moving into my new home in 2004, I've had incredibly good luck with my WP appliances. They are all still here working over 13 years later, with the exception of the dishwasher, which was replaced just over 9 years old. The only repair has been the Duet washer (2nd year) and the side x side fridge had one small repair and a new ice maker we installed. That's it.

Now, about LG being more advanced - it's just Whirlpool could ADD more common sense things to their Front load washers. (aside from load sensing technology)

1. drain pump access
2. recirculation pump
3. spray rinse
4. water plus (or something similar)

These are reasons that I've been considering and LG with TurboWash as my next FL (but I haven't fully decided yet) It may be a while because my Duet is still working great.
 
@ agiflow

Refrigerators are dual evaporator, was the linear compressor. Wp is just bringing this stuff to market as of a few years ago.

Their stoves are good looking, functional, and the temps are pretty precise. Performance is probably not any better than a wp product

Their dryers are a electronic version of the 27” wp dryer. Wp makes a fantastic dryer, lg just improved it a bit more.

Their washers are better in just about every conceivable way.
 

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