Chet, I read your response but I don't see it here on the forum. Actually, the agitator in this one is the same one that used to be in the Amana 4516. There was a different agitator they were using that I think is now discontinued. Many people probably wouldn't even notice it, but the one that's in this Whirlpool is like the early Whirlpool dual action agitators or "Heavy Duty".. The bottom of the auger sits up higher than the regular agitator they were using for these...
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Ok, that is good to know. In that case there should be a hex nut once the cap pops off. I can't think of anything different or why the cap would be glued on. Unless Whirlpool changed something which I doubt but I could be wrong.
https://www.thespruce.com/how-to-remove-agitator-from-washing-machine-5211908
https://www.thespruce.com/how-to-remove-agitator-from-washing-machine-5211908
Either I'm getting too weak or the thing is glued in. I tried pulling it off with pliers and it is on there. Doesn't budge. Never saw this with these before and I've had several of these machines already. It's like they don't want you to order replacement parts.It would make sense i guess since this is the last porcelain tub full agitator washet WP offers now .Other than the commercial type models which you have to look for them and order. You don't see them on the showroom floors.
I'd ask a repair tech. Either that the cap or agi isn't molded perfectly and it was forced in.
It should've been built correctly from the factory!
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What's your model number; also post a picture of what you are trying to take apart.
What's your model number; also post a picture of what you are trying to take apart.
Thanks John.
Model #WTW4816FW3. This cap is permanently sealed on i think. I've had several of these brand new and never had this problem. This isn't just "stuck" .Seems intentional. Not about to break the agitator to get it off. Hopefully it won't come to that.
Model #WTW4816FW3. This cap is permanently sealed on i think. I've had several of these brand new and never had this problem. This isn't just "stuck" .Seems intentional. Not about to break the agitator to get it off. Hopefully it won't come to that.
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Never mind. I finally got the cap out. I mean what did they do ? Pressure fit it ? That was actually very hard to get out. In any case, I'll be able to change out agitators.
phillymatt53
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I once had a hell of a time removing the cap on my Kenmore portable washer.
I had to replace the agitator dogs under it.
I had to replace the agitator dogs under it.
All of the new washers, whirlpool or Maytag are not what they used to be. In 2012, I bought the mid range Maytag Bravos XL set. 2 months in the F51 started showing up when it would try to spin. They sent a repair outfit to take a look, who deemed it unrepairable. They brought me a new one and said it was 50 bucks if I wanted the old one taken away. I couldn't believe they did not want it back. 2 months later we were doing it all again. After the 5th time, I added money to it and upgraded to the one with more features, thinking the whole lot of them assembled at that time all had the same problem and this may pull me out of the bad ones. It did, because I didn't have any more problems. However, I had 5 other washers sitting in the basement all with the same problem. I asked the delivery guy on the last one why they won't take them back. He said they do not get fixed but dumped at a scrap yard where they are shredded and recycled.
After several years I found out it was the motor position sensor that was a bad on all of those and fixed them myself watching a youtube video.
They are made so cheap its not worth fixing it! Fast forward to last year I bought a new Maytag MVW, thinking the last ordeal was a fluke, nope. Bad Karma right out of the gate. They drop it off and I pulled the box off of it and a suspension arm fell out on the ground. Waited three days got another one. This one has acted goofy since day one. Sometimes it acts like its overloaded when it's not and fills to the top just to drain it and do the same for rinse. Never agitating. I got it once filling and draining at the same time, thinking maybe it was the way it rinsed, no, 10 minutes later its still doing that. Im not sure how many other times it did that, but the water bill that month was $300, including sewer. Sometimes it doesn't unlock the door, and you have to wait until it sits for about an hour. Right before the warranty ran out from Maytag they did a online update to it, and the sporadic weird stuff it does doubled down. I reset it to factory and did not connect it back to the internet and it still messes up, but not as bad. I calibrate it once a week. I hate how it has to run the cold and hot separate. A lot of unnecessary pipe banging. SMH, the A208 is looking good again.
After several years I found out it was the motor position sensor that was a bad on all of those and fixed them myself watching a youtube video.
They are made so cheap its not worth fixing it! Fast forward to last year I bought a new Maytag MVW, thinking the last ordeal was a fluke, nope. Bad Karma right out of the gate. They drop it off and I pulled the box off of it and a suspension arm fell out on the ground. Waited three days got another one. This one has acted goofy since day one. Sometimes it acts like its overloaded when it's not and fills to the top just to drain it and do the same for rinse. Never agitating. I got it once filling and draining at the same time, thinking maybe it was the way it rinsed, no, 10 minutes later its still doing that. Im not sure how many other times it did that, but the water bill that month was $300, including sewer. Sometimes it doesn't unlock the door, and you have to wait until it sits for about an hour. Right before the warranty ran out from Maytag they did a online update to it, and the sporadic weird stuff it does doubled down. I reset it to factory and did not connect it back to the internet and it still messes up, but not as bad. I calibrate it once a week. I hate how it has to run the cold and hot separate. A lot of unnecessary pipe banging. SMH, the A208 is looking good again.
Removing the plastic detergent guard from dual action agitators
Sorry to take so long to respond, if you pour boiling water on this part, it comes off quite easily. They tend to get really stuck sometimes but they’re trying to achieve a good water seal so the fabric softener, etc. does not get into the agitator dogs.
There would never be any reason to break the agitator to get this out. The part itself is inexpensive if you break it as they sometimes do you can replace it when you reassemble.
John L
Sorry to take so long to respond, if you pour boiling water on this part, it comes off quite easily. They tend to get really stuck sometimes but they’re trying to achieve a good water seal so the fabric softener, etc. does not get into the agitator dogs.
There would never be any reason to break the agitator to get this out. The part itself is inexpensive if you break it as they sometimes do you can replace it when you reassemble.
John L
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It isn't only Whirlpool. Our son bought a brand new home with Samsung appliances already there. The top load washer would not spin. It was 2021, and parts were still scarce. It needed an new control board. Too long of a wait, so Samsung offered a refund. They did not want it back either. He bought an LG top loader from Best buy. It's been fine. 4 months ago, the door fell off the microwave/vent. He ordered the hinges and did the repair himself.
I uploaded a quick video of the WTW8127 washing a big load of towels on Max Fill setting. It did a great job on the towels, bringing down groundwater levels in the area noticeably but a sacrifice I'm willing to make for now.
phillymatt53
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Sorry gansky, but that video shows me how pathetic that noisy and SLOW agitation is.
I'd never accept that kind of performance in a washer.
vacerator
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Seems like a delicate agitation to me.
AquaSmart is variable/sensing for the deep fill level, doesn't straight-out go to maximum. It's aggressive, generates lint like a good toploader should! HE/low-level agitation begins at 7:35. The deep level presumably is calculated during that time. The additional fill begins at 9:50. A little more water is added during the 5x bleach flush at 17:42.
Signed: Goofy Glenn
Signed: Goofy Glenn
And I bet that when it did work properly, the clothes never got clean to begin with.
Samsung sucks!
phillymatt53
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That machine is another one that I'd never like or buy.
Who thought up such a pathetically slow and crappy system like that?
Must have been some moron.
phillymatt53
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Anybody that Buys Into that type of sluggish performance must have been thoroughly brainwashed with the New World Order disease epidemic that's been going around.
I just did a large load in my Maytag A482.
Sheets, towels, socks, undies, etc. and the turnover and sloshing around was in my opinion the best way to get stuff cleaned.
I have several Maytags. A206, A906, A608, A512. You're participating on a board dedicated to washing machine collectors and insulting people for interest in and enjoyment of the different mechanical designs that have been produced? I have no interest in collecting radios but haven't disparaged or insulted you for your interest in them. Why can you not afford others the same courtesy?
Signed: Goofy Glenn (as dubbed by phillymatt53)
phillymatt53
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Because I'm calling out poor designs for what they are.
I'd do that too for radios if need be, and have in the past.
So if you're trying to make me think like you, good luck with that.
Last I knew, people have different DNA and the freedom to state what's on their mind, without being badgered
Hi Matt, what you know about washing machines would not fill a two page book. I love that you’re here to learn about things, but you really don’t have experience with very many washing machines. You shouldn’t comment on things you don’t know about it makes you look you know what.
phillymatt53
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And just how do you know what my experience is, I'd like to know.
I'm not here to learn about things that I already know.
Besides, 655 posts from someone doesn't justify actually knowing them over the internet, much less knowing what they know or don't know.
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Hallelujah.....amen
I am with you, I dislike electronics in machines. This is the timer that I'd like to see in modern top load washers:
And of course the minimal level of switching involved:
This would be a reality if ultimate dependability was a priority.
Here is GE's simple EM timer that the above design would be based on:
Or as another variant, the Eaton metal timer and of course metal domed pressure switch. The timer motor leads would terminate to an external molex connector like on vintage Hotpoint dishwasher timers instead of spade terminals directly tapping into the timer harness block.
The water valve selector switches would be 16 amps rated and very chunky, similar to those switching the drive motor speeds on a direct drive Kenmore.
None of that thin plastic timer stuff.
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